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Arksiane 03-May-20 09:33 AM
hello folks
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Bucksin6 03-May-20 09:34 AM
henlo
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Deleted User 03-May-20 09:34 AM
aight TRDP is here
this si where you will type
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Bucksin6 03-May-20 09:34 AM
DV here
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Deleted User 03-May-20 09:34 AM
idk if role call got us yet
every SPEAKER check in
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Arksiane 03-May-20 09:34 AM
try not to type too much please
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Adam_is_confused 03-May-20 09:34 AM
Here
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Arksiane 03-May-20 09:34 AM
only speakers
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Sunstrok 03-May-20 09:34 AM
Here
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Deleted User 03-May-20 09:34 AM
im in the US but idk if i can join that debate so ill do this one
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Whiprust 03-May-20 09:34 AM
Here
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Rafa Telmo 03-May-20 09:35 AM
Here
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Senator Evans 03-May-20 09:35 AM
Here
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ᾍδης 03-May-20 09:35 AM
CPP here
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Deleted User 03-May-20 09:36 AM
who else do we need still
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Senator Evans 03-May-20 09:36 AM
Is the liberal alliance present?
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Deleted User 03-May-20 09:37 AM
yes
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Arksiane 03-May-20 09:37 AM
progresives?
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character-confusion 03-May-20 09:37 AM
Progress alliance?
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Senator Evans 03-May-20 09:37 AM
Are they representing the other liberal party tho?
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Deleted User 03-May-20 09:37 AM
@Earthescape
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Senator Evans 03-May-20 09:37 AM
Or did they merge while I wasn’t looking
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Arksiane 03-May-20 09:37 AM
@deleted-role
we need a speaker
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Adam_is_confused 03-May-20 09:37 AM
Yep LA here
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Deleted User 03-May-20 09:38 AM
Technically I could represent RoN but like meh....
so yes or no
no as long as I can still vote
okay
progress alliance is coming hold on
you guys can leave the voice chat btw
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FrogTheToad 03-May-20 09:40 AM
#deleted-channel will be for the official statements.
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Deleted User 03-May-20 09:40 AM
okay so now we move there lmao
who can send messages there
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Whiprust 03-May-20 09:41 AM
I can’t
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ᾍδης 03-May-20 09:41 AM
Neither can I
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Deleted User 03-May-20 09:41 AM
i cannot speak
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Senator Evans 03-May-20 09:41 AM
Can’t either
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Bucksin6 03-May-20 09:41 AM
i cant
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Sunstrok 03-May-20 09:41 AM
not me
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Deleted User 03-May-20 09:41 AM
ill change it
ok im here now
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beans 03-May-20 09:41 AM
it's set to push to talk only
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Deleted User 03-May-20 09:42 AM
should b e good now
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Bucksin6 03-May-20 09:42 AM
yup
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Deleted User 03-May-20 09:42 AM
go over to #deleted-channel
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Whiprust 03-May-20 09:57 AM
People should type their statements out before it’s their turn to speed up the process
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Deleted User 03-May-20 10:11 AM
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Senator Evans 04-May-20 06:55 AM
@Paralux have you voted yet for a military proposal ?
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Paralux 04-May-20 06:57 AM
Yes
Proposal 5
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Senator Evans 04-May-20 06:57 AM
Nice
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 06:59 AM
5 is so good
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 07:00 AM
If you want to have a civil war.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:00 AM
decentralized military works
ISIS does that, and look how they're doing
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SunoBeta 04-May-20 07:00 AM
dead
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:00 AM
no
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Jeb 04-May-20 07:00 AM
yes
ISIS has been in pretty bad times recently
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:00 AM
not all of them
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SunoBeta 04-May-20 07:00 AM
when was the last time isis made the news
ok
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Jeb 04-May-20 07:00 AM
they've already reached their peak
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:01 AM
but, they did very well for a long tome
and they had decentralized military
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 07:01 AM
Please explain how making Patrium more like ISIS is supposed to be a good thing.
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Jeb 04-May-20 07:01 AM
by the way are you using a terrorist organization as a role model for a political party?
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:01 AM
are we terrorists?
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Jeb 04-May-20 07:01 AM
i mean
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 07:01 AM
Not yet.
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Jeb 04-May-20 07:01 AM
it feels like you might become terrorists
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:02 AM
no, terrorism is generally pretty bad
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Arksiane 04-May-20 07:02 AM
a terrorists organization strategy is not a terrorist organization
false equivalency
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:02 AM
exactly
i am not saying be a terrorist
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 07:02 AM
True.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:02 AM
im saying ISIS hada good strategy
we should do that
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SunoBeta 04-May-20 07:03 AM
L_?
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:03 AM
there are also other militaries that did this (edited)
I cant think of them right now however
also, dont you want guns
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Arksiane 04-May-20 07:05 AM
both laws allow for guns
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:05 AM
true, but does the other one train you how to use it
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Arksiane 04-May-20 07:05 AM
i mean
no
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 07:06 AM
Yes, The LA is for the right to bare arms. We believe that the people should have the right to purchase guns not let's give everyone a gun and make a makeshift police force.
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Arksiane 04-May-20 07:07 AM
thats not necesarily a good thing
sinstroke
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Rendragon 04-May-20 07:07 AM
The idea that the militias proposed by 5 will be any better than, say, the modern police force, is ridiculous
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:07 AM
has the LA given any regulatory gun laws
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 07:08 AM
We have discussed it.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:08 AM
ok
also, why is that a bad thing
if people want a revolution why does the state get to tell them when they can or cant
and if your system was actually good, you wouldnt be afraid of that
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 07:10 AM
Because a revolution will lead to civil war.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:10 AM
why would we want a revolution, if your system worked?
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Jeb 04-May-20 07:11 AM
the people who create a revolution dont necessarily have good intentions
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:12 AM
if enough people dont like the system, then it isnt working. Also, you can't prove their intentions.
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 07:12 AM
Let me put it like this. It doesn't matter if the system works or not. What matters is saving the lives of innocent people. I don't care if people want to revolutionize. They have the right to do that. When it will lead to a civil war that will kill innocent people that's when I have a problem with it.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:12 AM
how can we do a revolution with out guns
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Jeb 04-May-20 07:12 AM
if enough people dont like the system, then it isnt working. Also, you can't prove their intentions.
@Sunstrok and if they dont like the system why they gotta create bloodshed
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:13 AM
how else do we deal with it
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Jeb 04-May-20 07:13 AM
democracy
protests
yknow
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:13 AM
because electoralism is just so good at changing the system
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Jeb 04-May-20 07:13 AM
stuff that doesnt affect the whole fuckin country
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 07:13 AM
The LA is trying to reform the system you hate so much but you never even considered that.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:14 AM
reform it to be worse
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Jeb 04-May-20 07:14 AM
worse how
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MemesOnPizza 04-May-20 07:14 AM
Reform means barely changing anything.
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Jeb 04-May-20 07:14 AM
what do you see thast worse?
wait you're from CUM lol i thought you were from the commies
yeah you'd obviously not like what we do at all
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:15 AM
liberals are fucking idiots dude. Electoralism never changed anything.
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 07:16 AM
And toting guns in the street will?
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:16 AM
YES
IT DOES
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Arksiane 04-May-20 07:17 AM
french revolution?
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:17 AM
historically revolution is the only way to create meaningful change
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Arksiane 04-May-20 07:17 AM
american revolution?
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:17 AM
the french revolution was done stupidly
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True King Frank (very edgy) 04-May-20 07:17 AM
Velvet Revolution was peaceful
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:17 AM
and the american revolution was done well by stupid people
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Arksiane 04-May-20 07:17 AM
also indian revolution was peaceful
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True King Frank (very edgy) 04-May-20 07:17 AM
Indeed
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Arksiane 04-May-20 07:17 AM
so both ways work
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:17 AM
sure
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Arksiane 04-May-20 07:18 AM
but i dont think you can favor one over the other (edited)
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True King Frank (very edgy) 04-May-20 07:18 AM
Revolution doesn't need bloodshed
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 07:18 AM
Exactly.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:18 AM
I DONT WANT BLOODSHED (edited)
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True King Frank (very edgy) 04-May-20 07:18 AM
enjoy the debate 🙂
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:18 AM
I however see no way to do a revolution under liberalism
the cops just keep killing revolutionaries, all the time
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 07:19 AM
The LA is revolutionizing but the left is convinced we're centrists when we're not. We're trying to reform the government to create a more just system for the people.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:19 AM
liberalism is unjust
and if not centrists, what are you
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 07:20 AM
Causing a civil war is unjust. It's in our name. We're liberals.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:20 AM
liberals are centrist
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 07:23 AM
How is what we're doing a bad thing? Instead of throwing capitalism and the state away we're trying to improve it. Explain how that's wrong.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:23 AM
you cant improve capitalism, it is inherently shit, and it can't be fixed. The state is the same.
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Arksiane 04-May-20 07:24 AM
liberals are in the o🅱️erton
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 07:24 AM
Why can't it be fixed? Explain it to me.
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Deleted User 04-May-20 07:24 AM
Imagine being a liberal instead of classical liberal
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:25 AM
srsly tho classical liberalism is way cooler
capitalism creates hierarchy that will always create a wealth disparity causing some people do be poor, and some rich. This is unjust.
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SunoBeta 04-May-20 07:25 AM
soulism
wow
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Deleted User 04-May-20 07:25 AM
No it isn’t
Unjust I mean
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:26 AM
im not talking to you
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SunoBeta 04-May-20 07:26 AM
noooo, someone can't be more successful
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:26 AM
im using language to talk to liberals. I have a different way of talking to right libertarians
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Deleted User 04-May-20 07:26 AM
If one man doesn’t work, and doesn’t get any money, and another man does work, and gets $100, is that unjust?
thankspeaker 1
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:27 AM
thats a strawman, please stop talking
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Deleted User 04-May-20 07:27 AM
The way I see it that’s the most just way
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:27 AM
ive blocked traveller
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Deleted User 04-May-20 07:27 AM
thats a strawman, please stop talking
@Sunstrok Bruh are you gonna call everything a strawman
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Arksiane 04-May-20 07:27 AM
strawman alert
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True King Frank (very edgy) 04-May-20 07:27 AM
yikes
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Arksiane 04-May-20 07:28 AM
when you call anything that is against your opinion a strawman
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SunoBeta 04-May-20 07:28 AM
ur mom is a strawman
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:28 AM
you clearly dont understand my opinion
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Deleted User 04-May-20 07:28 AM
I do though
You haven’t presented a valid argument against me
And even if you do, I’ll just call it a strawman
Since that’s how we debate now
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Arksiane 04-May-20 07:29 AM
youre blocked buddy
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Deleted User 04-May-20 07:29 AM
Oh yeah I forgot
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:29 AM
if I wanted to talk to right libertarians, I would
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SunoBeta 04-May-20 07:30 AM
hi
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 07:30 AM
I want to benefit the people. If having capitalism benefits the people I'll support it. If communism actually helped people I'd support it but it doesn't.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:30 AM
neither does
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SunoBeta 04-May-20 07:30 AM
soulist
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:30 AM
irrelevant (edited)
im not arguing for soulism right now am i?
im simply saying liberalism dosent help people
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 07:32 AM
How not? We want to give individuals personal freedom.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:32 AM
so do ancaps, are u an ancap?
avaritionists do that
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 07:33 AM
No we're not ancaps. But at least the libright doesn't want to cause a civil war.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:33 AM
why arent you, thay give personal freedom
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 07:34 AM
Because, and I said this before, a civil war will cause more harm than good.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:34 AM
not what i asked at all (edited)
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 07:34 AM
Personal freedom at the expense of lives is not something I can advocate for.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:35 AM
ancaps dont necessarily want civil war
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True King Frank (very edgy) 04-May-20 07:35 AM
civil war violates the nap
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Deleted User 04-May-20 07:35 AM
If they violate it first then we are within the right to fight back
That’s how the NAP works
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True King Frank (very edgy) 04-May-20 07:36 AM
Yes
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:37 AM
also, capitalism dosent help addicts generally
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Deleted User 04-May-20 07:37 AM
Yes. And?
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All Dogs are QUEENS 04-May-20 07:37 AM
Starting a civil war violates the NAP
Fighting in it if someone else starts it is a different story
(I believe)
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:37 AM
traveller, i would like to remind you, i dont know what you are saying
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 07:37 AM
What do addicts have to do with this?
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Deleted User 04-May-20 07:37 AM
🅱️ruh
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:38 AM
addicts exist
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Deleted User 04-May-20 07:38 AM
With a capital 🅱
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:38 AM
and are people
why arent you advocating helping them
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 07:40 AM
People that made the choice to use drugs. I'm for personal freedom. People have the right to use drugs and the right to get help. I can't go to every person who is addicted to drugs and force them into rehab. They have to make that choice. I could enact policies that reform rehab centers and public health but people need to want help. Not be forced into it.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:40 AM
liberalism does not help addicts. It locks them up. Also, it charges them to actually get help. This is very dumb because they basically cant get jobs.
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Mr.Korrupto 04-May-20 07:40 AM
"it locks them up" are you mistaking neocon policies with liberalism?
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:40 AM
weather it was their choice or not is irrelevant
liberalism locks up criminals
this is unhelpful
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 07:41 AM
Our policies straight up want the decriminalization of drugs. Did you even read our manifesto?
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:41 AM
no
please
give it
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Deleted User 04-May-20 07:41 AM
LOLIball Drugs should fall under free trade laws RONball2 Drugs are a spook ANALball Drugs are degenerate
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Jeb 04-May-20 07:42 AM
LAball drugs are cool but dont overdo them
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:42 AM
CUMball CUM
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Mr.Korrupto 04-May-20 07:43 AM
ah yes
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:43 AM
yes
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Arksiane 04-May-20 07:43 AM
ADAMSball Adams must decide on drug lawsADAMSball
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:43 AM
cringe
LA, where is your manifesto (edited)
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 07:46 AM
Why should I give it to you?
I have it right here but I know you're just going to cherry pick talking points.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:47 AM
i have it here
i found it
and no I wont
why is housing not a human right
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 07:49 AM
What are you talking about?
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:50 AM
under the housing part, it dosent say housing will be provided to everyone (edited)
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 07:52 AM
Exactly. Because it won't be. Just because something isn't given to you doesn't mean you don't have the rights to it. Everyone has a right to own a home. Emphasis on OWN.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:52 AM
i understand that
what im saying is, why dosent everone get housing
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 07:57 AM
Because the land value tax will be used to better improve the government. We still want to reform it. If it isn't there, there is nothing to reform.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 07:58 AM
if more people have housing, more people can rise up the corporate ladder, and more people can help the economy
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 08:00 AM
Do you know how much it would cost to give every civilian a free house?
Money that we don't have is how much.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:00 AM
we can tax people more then
they will more likely be able to afford it
because they can get jobs easier
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 08:02 AM
Who is going to build these free houses? Workers, workers that need to feed themselves. You're basically asking for free labor.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:02 AM
workers will get paid
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Mr.Korrupto 04-May-20 08:02 AM
..with what
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:02 AM
money...
duh...
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:03 AM
where will that come from?
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:03 AM
the same place it comes from now
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True King Frank (very edgy) 04-May-20 08:04 AM
Or don't pay the workers, then the houses are free
Big brain
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:04 AM
what the fuck are you people on
what
y'all realize workers get payed right now
and government workers also get paid
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MemesOnPizza 04-May-20 08:04 AM
lmao just print the money /s
@ArtemPixel Great accelerationist praxis
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:05 AM
true
so, the government has money to pay its workers
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:05 AM
the same place it comes from now
@Sunstrok Where
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:05 AM
and people will get payed (edited)
TAXES
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:05 AM
taxes are theft
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:05 AM
again
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:05 AM
they also hurt the lower class
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:06 AM
not here to talk to librights
here to talk to liberals
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:06 AM
>dodging the argument
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:06 AM
i agree taxes are theft
but, i also think capitalism is bad
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:06 AM
bruh
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:06 AM
however im arguing for a capitalist position (edited)
so, clearly im not proposing what I actually think is the best thing possible
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Jeb 04-May-20 08:07 AM
man
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:07 AM
my guy doing some mental gymnastics
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Jeb 04-May-20 08:07 AM
my guy doing some mental gymnastics
@Deleted User based
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:07 AM
im proposing what I think will work for the most people right now
while people disagree with me
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:07 AM
what will work the best now is limited taxes and a free market, with decentralized economy
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:08 AM
no
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:08 AM
look at nations throughout the world, as son as they decentralize their economy, it gets better
India, China (edited)
Russia
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:08 AM
somalia?
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:09 AM
Russia is one of the most well-endowed nations, but socialist policies made it so that the resources were not appropriately being used
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Arksiane 04-May-20 08:09 AM
india decentralized
dont make me laugh
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:09 AM
India was centralized
But then it became less hands on (edited)
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:10 AM
LA, do you think healthcare should be nationalized
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:10 AM
maybe you'll learn something
ADAMSball 1
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Arksiane 04-May-20 08:11 AM
indira gandhi was a dog
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Arksiane 04-May-20 08:11 AM
fun fact
the basic economics meme is bad
because complex economics challenges liberal and libertarian thought (edited)
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:12 AM
LA, do you think healthcare should be nationalized
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 08:13 AM
So you want us to increase taxes? That won't solve all our problems. We can't reform the government if we have no money. We need the economy to be sound, which means people will have to buy houses. We would like healthcare to be nationalized but have a contingency plan for if it isn't. We're willing to compromise.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:13 AM
so you do. huh
how are we gonna pay for that
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:14 AM
Government intervention in the economy makes it suffer. You need to let the economy recover on its own
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:14 AM
also, the amount of recourses available is ambiguous
how much of stuff do we have
what is our ppp
like, basic stuff
in america, we have way more houses than homeless people, so we could easily give every homeless person a house
can we do that here?
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 08:16 AM
We're revising some of our policies at the moment. So nationalized healthcare may not be viable.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:16 AM
how would you afford it though
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 08:18 AM
You know what? You're right we can't afford national health care at this time. I'm not going to raise taxes. So we'll have to find a better system.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:18 AM
also, can we print a trillion dollars to not help the ecomomy?
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 08:18 AM
No.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:19 AM
aww
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 08:19 AM
Artificial inflation will hurt us in the long run.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:19 AM
what, who said that?
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 08:19 AM
I'm trying to minimize damage.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:19 AM
printing money is very cool
do you want police?
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:20 AM
Did this guy really make the print money argument
are you being ironic
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:20 AM
YES
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:20 AM
phew
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:20 AM
how could i not be (edited)
how could we possibly afford police
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 08:21 AM
Irony has no place in debates.
By reinforcing the economy. That way the government will have more money to pay the police with.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:22 AM
so, why not do the same with other things
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:22 AM
bruh
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:22 AM
like housing, or healthcare
water, food
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:22 AM
because that will cost more money
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:22 AM
the police are literally useless
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:22 AM
we only want to put taxes into what they're needed for and in a limited amount (edited)
the police are literally useless
@Sunstrok bruh
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 08:23 AM
We have to prioritize what we spend money on. Protecting the general public is at the top of my list so of course I would want a police force to be well funded.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:23 AM
the police were invented ata time where the rate of crime was at an very low point
since then crame has just gone up
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Rafa Telmo 04-May-20 08:24 AM
The police right now is very usefull since we're on the brink of civilwar (edited)
Usually then you might wan't some people to keep the peace
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:24 AM
So you really want the state telling you when you can do revolution
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:24 AM
Yes
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:25 AM
cringe statist (edited)
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Rafa Telmo 04-May-20 08:25 AM
Alright I understood like 3/4 of that sentence
Oh wait no I reread it
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:25 AM
same but 0/4
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Rafa Telmo 04-May-20 08:25 AM
Yes
Yes I do
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:25 AM
why
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Senator Evans 04-May-20 08:25 AM
i mean the proposal that basically puts a Francisco Franco in charge of half the military is currently in the running
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 08:25 AM
You can revolution whenever you want. Just don't be surprised if the state fights back.
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Rafa Telmo 04-May-20 08:25 AM
Because revolution is pretty bad
Like
Like very bad for people's health
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:25 AM
peaceful revolution?
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Rafa Telmo 04-May-20 08:25 AM
I mean
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:25 AM
"if you don't blindly hate the gubberment you're a statist"
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Rafa Telmo 04-May-20 08:25 AM
If you can do that
I guess
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:26 AM
but, when people try that
the cops kill them
historically
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Rafa Telmo 04-May-20 08:26 AM
The PSF stand's for freedom of expression
Not freedom of violence
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 08:26 AM
Your allies in the PLP and CPP said peaceful revolution was impossible.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:26 AM
the cops are anti freedom of expression inherently
it is almost impossible
because the state will make it violent
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:27 AM
UASL officially endorses proposition 5 (edited)
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:27 AM
we also do that
the state makes everything violent
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:27 AM
no
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:27 AM
thats all they do
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 08:28 AM
So when a majority of the party who wants to revolutionize has made it clear they intend to be violent it's still the state's fault?
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:28 AM
its their job
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:28 AM
do you have a brain tumour
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:28 AM
if people want to do a revolution peacefully
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Rafa Telmo 04-May-20 08:28 AM
(Traveller you do know we're roleplaying right)
(Well sorta)
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:28 AM
yes
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:28 AM
the government kills them generally
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Rafa Telmo 04-May-20 08:28 AM
(ok good)
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:28 AM
like
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:28 AM
I will kill you with my mcnuke
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Rafa Telmo 04-May-20 08:28 AM
BASED
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:28 AM
thats just what happens
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Rafa Telmo 04-May-20 08:28 AM
I mean
Traveller let's keep our cool
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:29 AM
LOLI officially endorses the nuking of commies
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:29 AM
us as well
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:29 AM
i'm very cool, I've got my sunglasses on my head
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:29 AM
so, the only way we CAN do revolution is violently, because otherwise the cops will shoot us
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Rafa Telmo 04-May-20 08:29 AM
Ok civil is 100% going to happen I'll get my minutement ready
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:29 AM
historically
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 08:29 AM
I have a feeling the communist parties will attack the state first. When they do, expect severe backlash.
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Rafa Telmo 04-May-20 08:30 AM
@Deleted User Hey who's the head of LOLI?
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:30 AM
fuck the state
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:30 AM
ele I think
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Rafa Telmo 04-May-20 08:30 AM
Alright
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Jeb 04-May-20 08:30 AM
fuck the state
@Sunstrok fuck you
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:30 AM
I'm not being serious when I say I'll kill commies
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:30 AM
the state is cringe
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 08:30 AM
Settle down Jeb.
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:30 AM
you are cringe
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:30 AM
all it does is be violent
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Jeb 04-May-20 08:30 AM
ok
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:30 AM
by defininition
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:30 AM
Settle down Jeb.
cringe pacifism
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:30 AM
so, why do you want violence
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 08:31 AM
This is a debate channel.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:31 AM
why do you want violence
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:31 AM
. a nation or territory considered as an organized political community under one government. "Germany, Italy, and other European states"
where is violence in that
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 08:31 AM
I have spent this entire conversation denouncing the civil war.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:31 AM
answer me
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 08:32 AM
I do not want violence.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:32 AM
and that definition of the state is cringe
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:32 AM
why do you want violence
you're the one who wants violence
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:32 AM
the police are by definition violent
you want them
why do you want violence
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:32 AM
the civil force of a state, responsible for the prevention and detection of crime and the maintenance of public order. "when someone is killed, the police have to be informed"
Tell me where the violence is in that definition
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:33 AM
the civil force of a state
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SatiristicWretch 04-May-20 08:33 AM
the civil force of a state, responsible for the prevention and detection of crime and the maintenance of public order. "when someone is killed, the police have to be informed"
@Deleted User does that really happen?
i shall play da
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:33 AM
the police are by definition violent
Why do you keep using "by definiton" It's not by definition. It's by your definition
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:33 AM
they also kill black people all the time for no reasom
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:33 AM
Good.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:33 AM
ok hoppe
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SatiristicWretch 04-May-20 08:34 AM
the police cannot have the right to execute right?
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:34 AM
they also kill black people all the time for no reasom
american police you mean
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 08:34 AM
You're thinking too small scale. (edited)
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SatiristicWretch 04-May-20 08:34 AM
that belongs to the judge
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:34 AM
LA, are you saying violence is always bad
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:34 AM
the police cannot have the right to execute right?
they must absolutely not be allowed to execute people
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 08:34 AM
I am trying to prevent a war. A war is 100 times worse than police killing people.
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SatiristicWretch 04-May-20 08:34 AM
Good.
@Deleted User
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:34 AM
Just a reminder: UASL endorses prop 5!
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:35 AM
why are you trying to prevent a war
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 08:35 AM
To save lives. I've made that clear.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:35 AM
that is exactly why we want armed militias
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:35 AM
@Deleted User
@SatiristicWretch joke noun a thing that someone says to cause amusement or laughter, especially a story with a funny punchline.
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SatiristicWretch 04-May-20 08:35 AM
debate
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:35 AM
to save lives by killing people is acceptable in my eyes
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SatiristicWretch 04-May-20 08:35 AM
thing that someone says to cause amusement or laughter, especially a story with a funny punchline.
i didnt laugh
nota joke in my eyes
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:36 AM
You don't have to
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 08:36 AM
That is the exact opposite of what we should be doing. I'm not going to sacrifice people to save lives.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:36 AM
pacifist scum
all pacifism does is let liberalism kill more people
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Rafa Telmo 04-May-20 08:37 AM
(I just want to say OOC im very pog for civil war since it'll probably be quite fun roleplay wise)
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 08:37 AM
And you wonder why I think you're going to start a war.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:37 AM
revolution is the only path towards peace
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:37 AM
^
kill more people people
commies aren't people
Stfu
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 08:37 AM
Revolution will send Patrium on a downward spiral into chaos.
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:38 AM
UASLball 🤝CUMball
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:38 AM
this is basically correcr
honestly you seem cool
liberalism will never be utoipia
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 08:39 AM
I can not believe this. You honestly think going to war will magically solve all our problems because it won't. I'm thinking about the future while you're focused on instant gratification.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:39 AM
something else could
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 08:40 AM
Revolution is a short term solution to a long term problem that reform can solve.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:40 AM
who knows, avaritionism might be utopia
liberalism can't ever be, and until you show it can, there is no way I could ever take you seriously (edited)
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Jeb 04-May-20 08:42 AM
same logic goes for avaritionism
except liberalism has worked many times and has brought upon the most amount of happiness from people
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:42 AM
its never been tried, we can't know
all liberalism has ever done is become neoliberalism
and kill even more people
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Jeb 04-May-20 08:43 AM
yeah but having everyone live by themselves isnt a good system
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:43 AM
you cant know that
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Jeb 04-May-20 08:43 AM
using the movie mad max as a political system isnt a good idea
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:43 AM
You cant know that
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Jeb 04-May-20 08:43 AM
yes i do
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:43 AM
its never been tried, you have no data
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Jeb 04-May-20 08:44 AM
the sheer basic system of avaritionism creates more suffering than ever
you might as well just become anprim
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Rafa Telmo 04-May-20 08:44 AM
Yeah and me kicking a dog has also never been tried
It might not hurt the dog
I mean it's never been tried before (edited)
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:44 AM
true
do it
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Rafa Telmo 04-May-20 08:44 AM
I was being sarcastic (edited)
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:44 AM
how do you know it wont create utopia
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Rafa Telmo 04-May-20 08:44 AM
Because it doesn't make sense
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:44 AM
so
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Rafa Telmo 04-May-20 08:45 AM
The dog has no influence on any political level
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 08:45 AM
Because utopia is subjective.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:45 AM
capitalism probably didn't make sense to feudalists
no its not
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 08:45 AM
Yes it is.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:45 AM
utopia is a state in which everyone is satisfied (edited)
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Jeb 04-May-20 08:45 AM
utopia requires a society
avaritionism doesnt have one
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:45 AM
no it dosent
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Rafa Telmo 04-May-20 08:45 AM
But we have a society?
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Jeb 04-May-20 08:46 AM
theyre planning to use the government to destroy the government
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:46 AM
perhaps
maybe not
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Rafa Telmo 04-May-20 08:46 AM
Like the purple guy in the superhero movie with those stones? (edited)
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:46 AM
whatever creates utopia is what I suport
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 08:46 AM
Do you even hear yourself? How can everyone be satisfied that would just be a hive mind where no one can find issues with society.
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Jeb 04-May-20 08:46 AM
well avaritionism is definetely not the way
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:46 AM
hence why I hate liberals
why not a hive mind
lets try it
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 08:47 AM
Because that's oppressive.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:47 AM
HMC GANG RISE UP
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Jeb 04-May-20 08:47 AM
i swear wathever mod allowed CUM to exist should get demodded smh
CUM2 1
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:47 AM
why is oppression bad
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Jeb 04-May-20 08:47 AM
makes people sad
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:47 AM
whatever creates utopia
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 08:47 AM
Oppression strips people of their basic human rights.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:47 AM
no one will be sad in a hive mind
everyone could have rights in a hive ming
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Jeb 04-May-20 08:48 AM
no one will be sad in a hive mind
@Sunstrok because you'll strip their feelings off
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:48 AM
because no one could abuse those rights
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Jeb 04-May-20 08:48 AM
thats not what an utopia is supposed to be
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:48 AM
what about hive mind individualism (edited)
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Jeb 04-May-20 08:48 AM
thats just cultural hivemind
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:48 AM
no one can do anything the hive dosent want them to do
otherwise they can do whatever
you cant know its not utopia
until we try it (edited)
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Jeb 04-May-20 08:49 AM
removing people's feelings wont make an utopia
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:49 AM
prove it
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CarnelianBeatrice 04-May-20 08:49 AM
You can't be serious.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:50 AM
I am (roleplaying)
however, there is no way a hive mind could be shown to not create utopia, until we try it
we must try everything until it works
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Jeb 04-May-20 08:52 AM
you might as well just kill the entire human race since ideologies like nihilism and posadism want that
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 08:52 AM
yes
if it creates utopia
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SatiristicWretch 04-May-20 08:57 AM
virgin liberals vs chad anti compass
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Deleted User 04-May-20 08:58 AM
Chad off compass gang
UASLball 3
CUMball 1
UASLball 🤝RONball
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Jeb 04-May-20 09:01 AM
chad probably has like 7 STDs
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MemesOnPizza 04-May-20 09:11 AM
Off-Compassists, unlike Compassists, are smart enough to use condoms.
CUM2 1
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Mr.Korrupto 04-May-20 09:21 AM
to be fair libright is prolly the one making the said condoms
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Deleted User 04-May-20 09:26 AM
imagine having sex for something other than the procreation of children
thankspeaker 2
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True King Frank (very edgy) 04-May-20 09:27 AM
imagine having sex for something other than the procreation of children
@Deleted User Don't scroll up in #spamming then, you will find only pain
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Deleted User 04-May-20 09:27 AM
uh oh
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Deleted User 04-May-20 12:02 PM
The state needs to put birth qoutas on the people of patrium
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WEED EÄTER 04-May-20 12:42 PM
No
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MemesOnPizza 04-May-20 12:43 PM
The IngSoc and Social Darwinist within our party would like that idea.
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Kermit the C_L_A_M 04-May-20 12:46 PM
seeing as the NJC has incorporated maoist aesthetics, i support a 2 child policy
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skull_krusher 04-May-20 12:57 PM
Why not go about it in a more discreat way
The state will feed you if if you have 1-2 kids
If you have more, that free food goes away
And the tax rate increases to 100%
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Deleted User 04-May-20 01:15 PM
lets discuss after military
we can do multiple small legislative bills
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Bucksin6 04-May-20 02:03 PM
What no we need as much population as possible and if our land can't sustain bthat population we just get more land
Preferably the holy land
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Deleted User 04-May-20 02:03 PM
dues vult
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Kermit the C_L_A_M 04-May-20 03:05 PM
@Bucksin6 seeing as we exist not on earth, youre going to somehow have to create an entire set of lore around a new holy land
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Bucksin6 04-May-20 03:06 PM
Christianity isn't limited to earth
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Kermit the C_L_A_M 04-May-20 03:08 PM
so wed invade an entire other reality for the holy land
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Deleted User 04-May-20 03:12 PM
Reminder: UASL Endorses Prop 5, even with the new revisions. It is in the best interest of the individual to vote prop 5
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 04:14 PM
Reminder: CUM Endorses Prop 5, even with the new revisions. It is in the best interest of the individual to vote prop 5
thankspeaker 1
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MemesOnPizza 04-May-20 04:16 PM
Reminder: CUM Endorses Prop 5, even with the new revisions. It is in the best interest of society and the individual to vote prop 5
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Deleted User 04-May-20 04:17 PM
Reminder: Cum wants chaos. A vote for 5 is a vote for chaos
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 04:17 PM
CUM wants utopia. A vote for 5 is a vote for utopia
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SunoBeta 04-May-20 04:17 PM
reminder: doin ur mom
thankspeaker 4
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Deleted User 04-May-20 04:17 PM
Utopia can never be fully achieved
Even marx didn’t like utopias
Reminder: Cum wants chaos. A vote for 5 is a vote for chaos
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 04:18 PM
ok, marx was dumb and compassist
as are y'all LOLIs (edited)
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MemesOnPizza 04-May-20 04:18 PM
We use chaos to achieve a utopia. This is accelerationism.
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Mr.Korrupto 04-May-20 04:18 PM
reminder: Doin your mom doin doin your mom Doin your mom doin doin your mom Doin doin your mom doin doin your mom
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 04:19 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Yui-chan 04-May-20 04:19 PM
Reminder: Trying to pursue a utopia is better than just doing nothing. At least you're trying to get things better.
thankspeaker 1
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Deleted User 04-May-20 04:19 PM
we dont want a utopia thats impossible were tying to get the closest to utopia as possible without being stupid
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 04:20 PM
prove its impossible
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MemesOnPizza 04-May-20 04:20 PM
It is no secret that all on-Compass ideologies have their flaws. Maybe a novel off-Compass ideology can solve the problems of our time.
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Deleted User 04-May-20 04:20 PM
ingsoc is the only off compass ideology worth trying
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 04:21 PM
ok m8
at least serious egoists exist
I don't think anyone is a serious IngSocist
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Jeb 04-May-20 04:21 PM
oi can yall fuckin say ur partie's quadrant and what policy they support?
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 04:22 PM
yes (this answers your question) (edited)
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Deleted User 04-May-20 04:22 PM
ik a serious ingsocist irl
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MemesOnPizza 04-May-20 04:22 PM
IngSocism has only been "tried" in a book. It has never been tried IRL. We do not know how it would turn out.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 04:22 PM
true
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Jeb 04-May-20 04:22 PM
Hoja 1 Name,Quadrant,Ideals,Military Proposal Liberal Alliance,Libcenter,Neoliberalism, Social Liberalism, Social Libertarianism,#1 People's Liberation Army,Libleft,Communism, Social Libertarianism...
if yall wanna help
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 04:22 PM
we are all off compass ideologies
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Deleted User 04-May-20 04:23 PM
@Jeb RoN also endorses Soulism
we have a soulist in the party
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 04:23 PM
RoN is fairly based
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Deleted User 04-May-20 04:23 PM
so is ur party
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Jeb 04-May-20 04:23 PM
my objective is to only have 3 ideologies per each party in the spreadsheet
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Deleted User 04-May-20 04:23 PM
then remove social darwinist tbh
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Jeb 04-May-20 04:23 PM
ok
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 04:23 PM
its too auth for them
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Deleted User 04-May-20 04:24 PM
way too
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Jeb 04-May-20 04:24 PM
well i mean i got all the ideologies of each party from #list-of-official-parties-with-platform (edited)
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 04:28 PM
VOTE 5
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Jeb 04-May-20 04:28 PM
no
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 04:28 PM
FOR FREEDOM
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Polyester 04-May-20 04:28 PM
Vote 1 for Liberty and Justice. (edited)
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Jeb 04-May-20 04:29 PM
yes
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 04:29 PM
VOTE 5 IF YOU ARENT GAY
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Ero11 04-May-20 04:29 PM
Vote 5
What’s wrong with being gay?
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True King Frank (very edgy) 04-May-20 04:29 PM
Vote 5 if you ARE gay
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 04:29 PM
that as well
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True King Frank (very edgy) 04-May-20 04:29 PM
seeing as it comes from PLP
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Deleted User 04-May-20 04:29 PM
VOTE 1 IF YOU ARENT GAY
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True King Frank (very edgy) 04-May-20 04:29 PM
I mean...
Ancom be kinda like that tho
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MemesOnPizza 04-May-20 04:30 PM
We need to come to an agreement.
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 04:30 PM
to be fair, it is more conservative
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Yui-chan 04-May-20 04:30 PM
I'm bisexual, this is freaking confusing
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All Dogs are QUEENS 04-May-20 04:30 PM
Yea same here
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MemesOnPizza 04-May-20 04:30 PM
@Yui-chan, vote #5 no matter what!
NO MATTER WHAT
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Ero11 04-May-20 04:30 PM
Pansexual
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 04:30 PM
vote for us, im asexual
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All Dogs are QUEENS 04-May-20 04:30 PM
Have free will if you're Bi/Pan!!!
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Deleted User 04-May-20 04:30 PM
VOTE FOR 1
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MemesOnPizza 04-May-20 04:30 PM
NONE OF YOU HAVE FREE WILL
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 04:30 PM
5 FOR LGBT
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MemesOnPizza 04-May-20 04:30 PM
VOTE 5
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Ero11 04-May-20 04:30 PM
Can I vote?
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 04:31 PM
join a party
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Ero11 04-May-20 04:31 PM
Aight
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 04:31 PM
#list-of-official-parties-with-platform
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SunoBeta 04-May-20 04:31 PM
no
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Jeb 04-May-20 04:31 PM
VOTE FOR 1 NO MATTER WHAT YOUR SEXUALITY IS
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SunoBeta 04-May-20 04:31 PM
STOP
STOP
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Yui-chan 04-May-20 04:31 PM
vote #5 no matter what!
@MemesOnPizza I will
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SunoBeta 04-May-20 04:31 PM
THIS IS BLASHPAMEY
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 04:31 PM
YAY
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Jeb 04-May-20 04:31 PM
@Ero11 u cant vote
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SunoBeta 04-May-20 04:31 PM
YOU CAN'T VOTE
YOU'RE A NEW JOINER
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Jeb 04-May-20 04:31 PM
ur too new (edited)
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Ero11 04-May-20 04:31 PM
I have to @ a mod to let them know. But I can’t since voting.
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SunoBeta 04-May-20 04:31 PM
after this vote you can vote
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Ero11 04-May-20 04:31 PM
Aight
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 04:31 PM
sad
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SunoBeta 04-May-20 04:31 PM
but
if you could vote
both sides would invite all their friend
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Ero11 04-May-20 04:31 PM
5
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 04:32 PM
1 is gross
5 is cool and based (edited)
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Ero11 04-May-20 04:32 PM
Yes
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Elitemagikarp 04-May-20 04:32 PM
5 is epic
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 04:32 PM
liberalism is unbased
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SunoBeta 04-May-20 04:32 PM
1 is the 5 is doin ur mom
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 04:32 PM
5 is very based
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MemesOnPizza 04-May-20 04:33 PM
Guys, a civil war is INEVITABLE given that the president is in poor health. Plan five will accelerate the process of a civil war, decreasing overall bloodshed. This is why you should all vote for plan five!
thankspeaker 5
UASLball 2
CUM2 1
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 04-May-20 05:26 PM
Wait no
Vote 5
CUM is trying to split votes
By saying option 5 will start a civil war
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Sunstrok 04-May-20 05:32 PM
oh sorry
vote 5
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skull_krusher 05-May-20 12:28 PM
The traditionalist party wants only to preserve the traditions of our most supreme Parliament
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Kermit the C_L_A_M 05-May-20 12:30 PM
executive bad
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skull_krusher 05-May-20 12:31 PM
I wish not to interfere with the workings of democracy but to mearly guide them
Vote for the party that will stabalise our democracy
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Faux 05-May-20 02:35 PM
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Sunstrok 05-May-20 04:26 PM
why are people voting for comrade pedro (edited)
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Yui-chan 05-May-20 04:27 PM
Because he is our comrade and it's called Pedro (edited)
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Sunstrok 05-May-20 04:27 PM
but, ive never seen him even send a message
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Yui-chan 05-May-20 04:27 PM
He's more or less known in the polcomball comunity
He makes nice comics
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Sunstrok 05-May-20 04:28 PM
so what?
how does that have anything to do with qualifications
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Yui-chan 05-May-20 04:28 PM
And there are people that like the party he's in or something like that so they vote them
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Sunstrok 05-May-20 04:29 PM
but he is like the second worst candidate
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Yui-chan 05-May-20 04:30 PM
Why?
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SunoBeta 05-May-20 04:30 PM
who
Pedro?
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Sunstrok 05-May-20 04:30 PM
pedro
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SunoBeta 05-May-20 04:30 PM
oh cuz he's a commie cuck
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Duchess Ita Taîýrudá 05-May-20 04:30 PM
i feel attacked by that statement
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Sunstrok 05-May-20 04:30 PM
how is that 5th positionist tho
arent they anticommunist
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Duchess Ita Taîýrudá 05-May-20 04:30 PM
no
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SunoBeta 05-May-20 04:30 PM
look at their profile picture
and tell me that's anti-commie
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 05-May-20 04:31 PM
We need to vote for pius
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Yui-chan 05-May-20 04:31 PM
I've voted for pius... AFTER PEDRO
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Sunstrok 05-May-20 04:31 PM
nvm, pedro is cool
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 05-May-20 04:31 PM
>:(
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Sunstrok 05-May-20 04:31 PM
i thought FPP was conservative
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 05-May-20 04:32 PM
Vote pius
Do it
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Sunstrok 05-May-20 04:32 PM
Pius is better
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MemesOnPizza 05-May-20 04:32 PM
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Sunstrok 05-May-20 04:32 PM
i am much better
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Yui-chan 05-May-20 04:32 PM
i thought FPP was conservative
@Sunstrok XD
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MemesOnPizza 05-May-20 04:32 PM
ROFL
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Yui-chan 05-May-20 04:32 PM
i am much better
@Sunstrok Yeah, of course... Changes vote
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Sunstrok 05-May-20 04:33 PM
what?
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MemesOnPizza 05-May-20 04:33 PM
Elect Sunstroke.
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Sunstrok 05-May-20 04:33 PM
do it plz
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MemesOnPizza 05-May-20 04:33 PM
That is all I am saying.
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Yui-chan 05-May-20 04:33 PM
what?
@Sunstrok You lost my vote for saying that things to poor Comrade Pedro :c
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Sunstrok 05-May-20 04:33 PM
im sorry
i didnt mean it
i have made a severe and continuous lapse in my judgement...
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Bucksin6 05-May-20 04:34 PM
I never said anything mean to Pedro vote Pius!
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SunoBeta 05-May-20 04:35 PM
funniest ship I've seen
shit*
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Opossumod 05-May-20 07:32 PM
funniest ship I've seen
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 05-May-20 07:35 PM
funniest ship I've seen
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Deleted User 05-May-20 07:35 PM
Titanic
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Myth 06-May-20 01:18 PM
thankspeaker 5
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True King Frank (very edgy) 06-May-20 01:19 PM
wow
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Deleted User 06-May-20 01:48 PM
We have too many commie groups (edited)
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True King Frank (very edgy) 06-May-20 01:48 PM
nah
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Deleted User 06-May-20 01:48 PM
More than 0 commies parties is too much
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True King Frank (very edgy) 06-May-20 01:49 PM
nah fam
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Deleted User 06-May-20 01:51 PM
Yes
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SatiristicWretch 11-May-20 07:39 AM
@Bucksin6
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Bucksin6 11-May-20 07:39 AM
Hi
You need to get your party to work on it
Otherwise you won't have a functional trade system
This will leads to backlogs on imports and exports. People don't make money, people don't have access to food. Bad things happen
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SatiristicWretch 11-May-20 07:40 AM
as i said we dont have enough data
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Bucksin6 11-May-20 07:41 AM
This isn't wether I agree it needs to physically work
We made comprehensive trade rates
It's not too difficult
We did it percentage based
We also did have real world data to go off of which helped
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SatiristicWretch 11-May-20 07:42 AM
how do you know what we import?
or export?
we cant use real world data here
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Bucksin6 11-May-20 07:42 AM
Main exports consist of: coffee, precious minerals and gems, fish, cereals, and ores
That's some lore
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SatiristicWretch 11-May-20 07:43 AM
and imports?
what countries import to us?
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Bucksin6 11-May-20 07:43 AM
Depends on what you are focusing on doing with the economy in the future
Like we are raising tariffs on manufacturered goods but eliminating tariffs on raw materials and necessities. This way we can encourage domestic growth and production
But y'all are doing something different
You need to figure out at what amount of production does a necessary good become a domestically produced good and at what rate will it's tariff be?
That's as much help as I can give you have to do the rest it's your plan I can't make those decisions. I need sleep good luck @SatiristicWretch
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SatiristicWretch 11-May-20 07:47 AM
we have already started discussing
but i think you know that already
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SatiristicWretch 11-May-20 08:00 AM
@Bucksin6 the tariffs currently in place for your proposal are electronic goods
the way it seems we are exporting things, we don't have a large enough production of them
tariffs would make it so that other countries would be less likely to export them to us
and seeing that we export goods that are produced in labour intensive industries (edited)
i doubt we have the infrastructure to do make the entertainment electronic goods (edited)
NJCball 2
I wiIl leave it at that for now,
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MemesOnPizza 13-May-20 11:16 AM
We should declare war on Thuzland AND Somalia.
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SatiristicWretch 13-May-20 11:43 AM
war with thuziland would hurt its people, who live in a totalitarian theocratic dictatorship and thus have no say in what goes on in the government (edited)
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MemesOnPizza 13-May-20 11:45 AM
I just want war!
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Amaaroc 13-May-20 11:45 AM
No
No war
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SatiristicWretch 13-May-20 11:45 AM
war is cringe and unwholesome
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Amaaroc 13-May-20 11:45 AM
Not yet
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SatiristicWretch 13-May-20 11:48 AM
>war is cringe and unwholesome
>Not yet
0.o
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MemesOnPizza 13-May-20 11:49 AM
>war is cringe and unwholesome
@SatiristicWretch, 🇽 to doubt
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SatiristicWretch 13-May-20 11:50 AM
(you press x to doubt, it was wrong choice, the second time you say lie, but you have no evidence, finally you press truth and it is correct!)
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Senator Saruman, EG 13-May-20 01:14 PM
Don't go to war with Somalia, that's a mindless disaster
it doesn't even have a stable government, so any war against it would also be an international incident against our cred
heck, the UN could get involved
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MemesOnPizza 13-May-20 01:17 PM
I want there to be as much chaos as possible.
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FrogTheToad 13-May-20 01:22 PM
And all we would get from taking it over would be some cocaine leaves. And that's it really.
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RuneFireheart 13-May-20 01:23 PM
Hey, in desperate times...
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ACETheAtomicoke 13-May-20 01:23 PM
is there anything wrong with invading a country for cocaine?
i mean
cocaine
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FrogTheToad 13-May-20 01:24 PM
Though it isn't Cocaine.
It's like shit cocaine feeling from chewing awful tasting leaves.
Sounds fun right?
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Deleted User 13-May-20 01:25 PM
Yes
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ACETheAtomicoke 13-May-20 01:25 PM
INVASION CANCELLED, GO FIND SOME BETTER DRUGS
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Senator Saruman, EG 13-May-20 02:36 PM
Please band together in calling for reforms for this motion, the motion for information disclosure currently in #deleted-channel. As it reads now, any senator would be able to view any materials of any investigation unless it directly accused them. This access is too wide for a time of national emergency. There is no practical way to ensure that a single senator is excluded from certain information; if he or she doesn’t get the details from a friend or party member, it shouldn’t be too hard to infer the contents from general discourse. The motion ought to be modified so that senatorial investigation materials are off limits to everyone without a military clearance. This would allow for exceptions, such as the military council briefing a party head of information they have about a member of the party that could be incriminating. I agree with the sentiment of this motion, greater transparency is imperative for the good of Patrian cooperation. This could even benefit the military council, since widespread knowledge of the evidence they have could induce the senate to give them further emergency powers and make their job easier, preserving security in our State. However, the Senate should be excluded from information pertinent to international war and senatorial investigations. If an investigation is into an entire party, as in the case of the suspected ACA attack, such information is general enough to be rendered to the Senate. However, I hope that a final provision is added to the motion: that a supermajority of the Military Council will be able to vote to deny senate access to any individual requested piece of information. This final safeguard ensures the covert nature of Patrian military operations while keeping transparency prioritized as much as possible. (edited)
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Dieselkeough 13-May-20 05:27 PM
I must agree to this motion.
It gives the senate too much power.
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parm 13-May-20 05:28 PM
I say that the Council's every act must be released to the public and it must be immediately abolished storms out of senate building (edited)
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Dieselkeough 13-May-20 05:32 PM
Based
Maybe we should do that... (edited)
Abolish all government while we are at it.
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parm 13-May-20 05:39 PM
Even more based
I'm proud working with Senator McCurtney
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Dieselkeough 13-May-20 05:48 PM
Pirate party is anti-state through and through
Anything that abolishes the state is a plus
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Senator Saruman, EG 13-May-20 09:46 PM
If anyone paid attention to my theory on why the generals should be allowed more leeway, and signed on, I urge you to turn around with me and vote yes on the proposal for transparency with no hesitation.
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Dieselkeough 02-Jun-20 08:59 AM
Can we do a poll to decide what the farmers would want?
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parm 02-Jun-20 09:11 AM
I guess?
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All Dogs are QUEENS 02-Jun-20 08:54 PM
I mean
I think that's pretty clear by the fact that they're revolting
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character-confusion 02-Jun-20 08:57 PM
@All Dogs are QUEENS Diesel seems to assume they want to abolish the entirety of the agricultural department, despite them never having said that.
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All Dogs are QUEENS 02-Jun-20 08:57 PM
Ahh I see
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character-confusion 02-Jun-20 08:58 PM
he just gets hot and bothered thinking about destroying government agencies
with no thought as to what that might do to the farmers who rely on it
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All Dogs are QUEENS 02-Jun-20 09:05 PM
I thought they were just mad about
You know, corruption, high taxes, possibly policies that encourage more production but make their lives harder
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character-confusion 02-Jun-20 09:06 PM
they are
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All Dogs are QUEENS 02-Jun-20 09:07 PM
I mean some of them probably want to destroy the department
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character-confusion 02-Jun-20 09:07 PM
PIP, FLS, and the other libs are using it as a thinly veiled excuse to reduce state power and aid
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All Dogs are QUEENS 02-Jun-20 09:07 PM
If so they need to talk louder!
Wait
That was for my message not yours
Ahhh you get it
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character-confusion 02-Jun-20 09:09 PM
yes exactly
which is why i'm very concerned that their idealism is blinding them to actually helping these people (edited)
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parm 02-Jun-20 09:26 PM
to see our deliberations on the proposal
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Dieselkeough 03-Jun-20 10:47 AM
Eliminate all government
That will help them the most
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Kermit the C_L_A_M 03-Jun-20 11:31 AM
all government or all state
smh ancaps cant even distinguish the two
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Dieselkeough 03-Jun-20 11:41 AM
eliminate both
both are utter garbage
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Deleted User 03-Jun-20 02:47 PM
Install slave system and sell the peasants into slavery
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 03-Jun-20 02:49 PM
Based
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A-Person7 04-Jun-20 02:43 AM
we legalize slavery, ok
we wait a few days
plenty of people try it
loads of slave owners
suprise, we announce that the slave owners are actually the slaves
enslave them, and force them to do hard labor
profit
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Deleted User 04-Jun-20 04:24 AM
That would be a violation of property rights
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:11 PM
my point is
i don't want to put in stuff from across the spectrum
if you want to create a different bill to make the AWA
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parm 04-Jun-20 05:12 PM
abe has a proposal to create an AWA-like entity w/o a bill
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:12 PM
we think that the maintaining of state power is just as partisan of a decision as taking it down. What has happened in the past is not justification for absence of action now.
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:12 PM
great!
i think that's awesome
but i don't think you should put it in this bill
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parm 04-Jun-20 05:12 PM
i feel like this is the perfect bill
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:12 PM
we think that the maintaining of state power is just as partisan of a decision as taking it down. What has happened in the past is not justification for absence of action now.
@Snaxolas that's not the problem
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parm 04-Jun-20 05:12 PM
i feel like the farmers will benefit from choice
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:12 PM
we are still working on it
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:12 PM
we could be pushing to make things way more auth
you're pushign to make things way more lib
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:13 PM
But then it has no actual oversight
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:13 PM
i want to just solve the issue at hand
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:13 PM
we could be pushing to make things way more auth
@character-confusion you see, the sentiment is lib
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:13 PM
do neither
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parm 04-Jun-20 05:13 PM
and the AWA has more comprehensive benefits than the AD
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:13 PM
farmers don't want a strong government
they are rioting
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parm 04-Jun-20 05:13 PM
^
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:13 PM
who says?
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:13 PM
wait so no AWA?
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:13 PM
they are rioting
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:13 PM
In the bill?
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:13 PM
they're rioting over corruption
not over the existance of the AD
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parm 04-Jun-20 05:13 PM
a natural part of strong government
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:13 PM
we're fixing their demands
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:13 PM
they’re also rioting over taxes
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:13 PM
wait so no AWA?
@Senator Evans we still want the AWA in the bill
they're rioting over corruption
@character-confusion they are rioting over taxation
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:13 PM
yes
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:14 PM
And I doubt a 2 percent decrease is enough
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:14 PM
that's why we're decreasing taxes
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parm 04-Jun-20 05:14 PM
^
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:14 PM
well
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:14 PM
Yeah but 2 percent isn’t enough
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:14 PM
the mods refuse to tell us current tax rates
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:14 PM
It isn’t nearly enough
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parm 04-Jun-20 05:14 PM
yeah
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:14 PM
if you wanna decrease more
that's a resonable thing
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:14 PM
What if we did a 30-50 percent decrease
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:14 PM
we plan to ask what they want
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:14 PM
But
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parm 04-Jun-20 05:14 PM
how TF are we gonna legislate w/o info
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:14 PM
uhhhhh
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:14 PM
We use the foreign cash
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:14 PM
that seems like a LOT
can you
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:14 PM
To make up the difference
And more
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Mr.Korrupto 04-Jun-20 05:14 PM
What if we did a 30-50 percent decrease
@Senator Evans for one we need what is our actual spending
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parm 04-Jun-20 05:14 PM
like this is a realistic sim
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:14 PM
you can just decrease based on ratio to the current rate
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:14 PM
we can pay for it
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:14 PM
please cool it on the cash for a minute
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Mr.Korrupto 04-Jun-20 05:14 PM
and what our tax rates are
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:14 PM
Using the foreign cash
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:14 PM
once again
can you cool it on the cash
foreign cash i mean
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:15 PM
It’s just a good party of the solution tho
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:15 PM
higher tax decreases are reasonable
but we need to know exactly what they wnat first
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:15 PM
I’m just saying that we can’t decrease taxes without new income
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Mr.Korrupto 04-Jun-20 05:15 PM
as much of a libright I might be, decreasing taxes should be done in ways that wont fucking kill the economy
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:15 PM
^^^
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:15 PM
yes
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:15 PM
so get other funding
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 04-Jun-20 05:15 PM
Fuck it, I'm gonna talk to the farmers
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:15 PM
we put some new income forces
we're already planning to talk to farmers
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:15 PM
abolishing a corrupt institution is reasonable as well. We aren't proposing immediately abolishing it, simply ceasing taxation and the start of an investigation on it
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:15 PM
we all should together
but
we shouldn't abolish it
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Mr.Korrupto 04-Jun-20 05:16 PM
if you wanna radically decrease taxes, abolish the AD completly and never let anything else in
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:16 PM
and we should just make random other stuff cause we want to
if you wanna make the AWA
make an AWA bill seperately
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parm 04-Jun-20 05:16 PM
keeping the status quo is just as much of an agenda as changing it
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:16 PM
don't shove it in here
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:16 PM
why not? If it is shown to be corrupt, and it is possible to have a solution that does not involve it, why not use that solution?
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parm 04-Jun-20 05:16 PM
^
if the solution is superior
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:16 PM
(I don’t think we can just submit new bills)
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parm 04-Jun-20 05:16 PM
then we will push it
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Mr.Korrupto 04-Jun-20 05:16 PM
AWA can become corrupt as easily as AD
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parm 04-Jun-20 05:16 PM
(i hope they let us0
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:16 PM
can’t we just do an investigation?
And have oversight?
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:17 PM
(I don’t think we can just submit new bills)
@Senator Evans we can. i did that with the transparency military bill
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:17 PM
Hmmmmm
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:17 PM
AWA can become corrupt as easily as AD
@Mr.Korrupto I don't think this is true. Everything is democratic.
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:17 PM
I’d still rather group the together
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:17 PM
if the solution is superior
@parm because not everyone thinks it
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:17 PM
Because my support is very conditional
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parm 04-Jun-20 05:17 PM
but the AWA is directly controlled by the farmers
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Mr.Korrupto 04-Jun-20 05:17 PM
@Mr.Korrupto I don't think this is true. Everything is democratic.
@Snaxolas anything can be democratic on paper.
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:17 PM
AWA can become corrupt as easily as AD
@Mr.Korrupto If you want to demonstrate a way it could, i'd be happy to revise the constitution to avoid it
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parm 04-Jun-20 05:17 PM
@parm because not everyone thinks it
@character-confusion I think it is so, I will push it until it is defeated
end of sentence
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:18 PM
why?
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:18 PM
if your problem is simply with democracy, I don't care.
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:18 PM
that's insane, and irresponsible
this is what i mean
you care more about pushing your agenda
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parm 04-Jun-20 05:18 PM
i want to bring it to Saturday
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:18 PM
than doing the basic good thing to help
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Mr.Korrupto 04-Jun-20 05:18 PM
say we have a higher up, who says that he cant falsify the voting? if no one ever gets word of it, how can you put them to responsibility? (edited)
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parm 04-Jun-20 05:18 PM
you also care to push ur agenda
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:18 PM
I feel like total abolition is a lot
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:18 PM
@character-confusion I think it is so, I will push it until it is defeated
@parm bro, we don't need to get this aggressive about it, we can create the AWA no matter what. The bill only matters to cease taxation
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parm 04-Jun-20 05:18 PM
and IMO my bill does more to help than urs
i should rephrase
i will bring it to saturday
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Mr.Korrupto 04-Jun-20 05:19 PM
NLF's bill is far more rational and far more adequate to the current situation.
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parm 04-Jun-20 05:19 PM
I want democracy to judge it and not a few debates
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Mr.Korrupto 04-Jun-20 05:19 PM
It wants to fix what the protests are about.
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:19 PM
^
that's exactly it
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Mr.Korrupto 04-Jun-20 05:19 PM
As fast as possible, as cheaply as possible.
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:19 PM
I agree that the problem needs fixing
But we need a long term fix
Not just a bandaid
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parm 04-Jun-20 05:19 PM
yes, and if my bill is defeated in the first round
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:19 PM
you also care to push ur agenda
@parm perhaps, but we aren't with this bill. this is not the place
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Mr.Korrupto 04-Jun-20 05:20 PM
NLF bill is objectively cheaper to bring in, than AWA or nature valleys/
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parm 04-Jun-20 05:20 PM
i will support character's proposak
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:20 PM
will your party as well?
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parm 04-Jun-20 05:20 PM
(join nature valley btw)
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:20 PM
but what if the AWA brought in more money with a little extra provision?
wait woah
Okay
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parm 04-Jun-20 05:20 PM
if it is defeated
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:20 PM
As fast as possible, as cheaply as possible.
@Mr.Korrupto lowering the tax rate can be undone. Sure, unpopularly, but it can be undone. The AWA would be liable to create a movement that lasts for the rest of the labor movement in patrium
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:20 PM
Also it doesn’t actually modernize agriculture
The farmers are still poor
Just a bit less poor
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parm 04-Jun-20 05:21 PM
i will have to consult with my party and coalition
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:21 PM
may i speak with them?
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Mr.Korrupto 04-Jun-20 05:21 PM
the AWA will be an another govermental agency, just not officialy.
if you wanna do this, do it without the goverment at all.
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parm 04-Jun-20 05:21 PM
sure i guess
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:21 PM
thank you
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parm 04-Jun-20 05:21 PM
our plan is taking AWA to saturday
that is non-negotiable unless you do include the AWA in the bill
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:22 PM
if you want to propose your bill, that's fine
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:22 PM
sure i guess
@parm maybe we should prioritize action taken outside of the government or acts.
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parm 04-Jun-20 05:22 PM
if my party disagrees then we shall change
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Mr.Korrupto 04-Jun-20 05:22 PM
I'm all for something like AWA, if it can be done privately and be shown to actually work.
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parm 04-Jun-20 05:22 PM
@parm
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maybe we should prioritize action taken outside of the government or acts.
@Snaxolas we are
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:22 PM
i just hope you support ours as well, as a non-partisan, rational, practical solution (edited)
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parm 04-Jun-20 05:22 PM
nature valley
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Mr.Korrupto 04-Jun-20 05:22 PM
If it can work privately, we can phase out AD and bring in AWA.
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:22 PM
then why don't we just... ditch the senate
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parm 04-Jun-20 05:22 PM
yes, if ours is defeated
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Mr.Korrupto 04-Jun-20 05:22 PM
But I cant support AWA otherwise.
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parm 04-Jun-20 05:23 PM
then why don't we just... ditch the senate
@Snaxolas Nature Valley is a back-up plan
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:23 PM
what is nature valley
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parm 04-Jun-20 05:23 PM
msg Abe
but it's a joint-stock company planning to transition into a co-op
i put my name down there
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:24 PM
let's just pass a bill that is basically just "cut taxes in half, investigate the AD, peace."
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:24 PM
^
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:24 PM
and then create the AWA
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:24 PM
that's ours tho
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:24 PM
nope
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:24 PM
?
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:24 PM
yours decreases taxes by 2%
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:24 PM
oh
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:24 PM
But if we cut taxes how will we make up the difference?
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:24 PM
no, it's by 10%
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:24 PM
you can’t just bleed money like that
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:24 PM
but we're open
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parm 04-Jun-20 05:24 PM
we don't?
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Mr.Korrupto 04-Jun-20 05:24 PM
I wont support AWA unless its first created privately.
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:24 PM
it's more of a placeholder value untel we talk to farmers and get an idea of what they want
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:24 PM
I can’t support a large tax cut unless we have a way of making up the difference
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:24 PM
we do
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:24 PM
But if we cut taxes how will we make up the difference?
@Senator Evans the AD won't be needing it, once they get shut down for corruption
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 04-Jun-20 05:25 PM
I support a larger tax cut.
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:25 PM
same
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:25 PM
I do to
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:25 PM
that's why we put the section at the bottom, and if you guys have ways of increasing taxes, then suggest them please
well
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:25 PM
well there is a way of increasing revenue
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:25 PM
I mean, a carbon tax was proposed
by the DPP
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:25 PM
that I’ve kind of said like 100 times
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:25 PM
we can't have a total tax cut. as i said, our plan is to ask the farmers what they want, then go from there
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:25 PM
that character is against for no conceivable reason
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:25 PM
lmao
i gave you reasons
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:26 PM
(Senator Evans is getting pissy at the isolationism) (edited)
Yes but this is relevant
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Mr.Korrupto 04-Jun-20 05:26 PM
@character-confusion a thing that we could do might be a tax increase on foreign farm owners (mostly meaning outsider corporations) and lowering them on local objects.
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:26 PM
To this bill
It very much is
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:26 PM
@character-confusion a thing that we could do might be a tax increase on foreign farm owners (mostly meaning outsider corporations) and lowering them on local objects.
@Mr.Korrupto we put tarrif increases on produce
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:26 PM
who do I message to talk about actions taken outside of bills in the RP
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:26 PM
a mod
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:26 PM
It’s how we justify tax cuts without harming our people or our economy
and the solution is investment
I won’t allow petty nationalism to get in the way of progress (edited)
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:27 PM
but it does hurt our community
it's not petty to not want to become puppets of foreign investments
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:28 PM
5-8 percent isn’t puppets (I’ll have proper details once the mods decide on what the hell is going on)
Also it’s entirely voluntary for each individual (edited)
Every small third world nation that has industrialized in recent history
Has used foreign investment
It’s the only path to modernization
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:29 PM
I am 10000000% against foreign investment
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:29 PM
ooo nice. why tho?
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:29 PM
w h y
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:29 PM
out of curiosity
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:30 PM
(It’s almost like none of the other characters have foreign policy backgrounds)
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:30 PM
also, as i said with other issues, i don't think that foreign investment is something to be forced through with this bill
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:30 PM
It’s a way of making up the costs of tax cuts
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:30 PM
it's a larger issue that doesn't pertain to the issue at hand
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:30 PM
Without cutting spending
also this isn’t really a hard issue
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:30 PM
less of the capital within the country will belong to people within the country, so there will be less class mobility.
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:30 PM
do you want us to be North Korea?
How do you plan to modernize without foreign help?
because no small country has done it on their own
and unless you want a holodomor
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:31 PM
your foreign "help" is neo-colonialism
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:31 PM
Or a North Korean famine
You should accept the cash
or stay poor forever
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:31 PM
I don't even want there to be a government to require funding.
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:32 PM
(This funds farmers directly)
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:32 PM
I'm telling you right now, this is not what we need. (edited)
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:32 PM
We can either modernize quickly or die
those are our choices
As a third world nation in an area that’s going to get ravaged by climate change in 2-3 decades
If we can’t modernize
We can’t assert our independence and we can’t ensure that our country will have a future
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:33 PM
besides
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:33 PM
Third world nations have no power
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:33 PM
even if we were gonna accept foreign help
this isn't the place to do it
that's not what this is about
it's a larger debate
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:33 PM
How else are you going to lower taxes without sacrificing modernization?
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:34 PM
Third world nations have no power
@Senator Evans partly due to investments exactly like what you are suggesting
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:34 PM
North Korea isn’t exactly doing well
If we’re smart with investments
We can go the way of Singapore
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:34 PM
investments trade power over your own capital for money (edited)
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:34 PM
these investments don’t give them any decision making power
They just want a return on their cash
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:35 PM
they do
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:35 PM
Again the choices are accept help
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:35 PM
it does give them decision making power
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:35 PM
Or stay 3rd world
it doesn’t
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:35 PM
the same way large companies have decision-making power in the government
it's implicit
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:35 PM
5-8 percent is nothing
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:35 PM
and EVEN SO
we shouldn't force it though right now, in this bill
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:35 PM
Again taxes
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:35 PM
we have solutions
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:35 PM
What like new taxes?
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:35 PM
foreign investment is a big deal
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:35 PM
it really isn’t
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:36 PM
why shouldn't we just abolish the AD, again?
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:36 PM
All that’s being asked is that the government supervised
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:36 PM
because you think it is too radical?
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:36 PM
Because the AD is useful
For modernization
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:36 PM
I dunno.
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:36 PM
And modernization should be the primary goal
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:36 PM
it's useful, yes
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:36 PM
Of every party
We can’t survive as a third world shit fest
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:37 PM
abolishing an entire government agency will have major reprecussions, and i don't want to do that sight unseen
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:37 PM
^
But if you’re going to be obstinate the investments will just happen without any government involvement
And each individual farmer
Will get approached
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:38 PM
I am for significantly reducing taxation of farmers, and the creation of the AWA on the side
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:38 PM
So if that’s what you guys want then go ahead (edited)
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:38 PM
if your bill does that, fine.
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:38 PM
that is the plan
we need to see how much tax reduction the farmers are asking for
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:38 PM
you can’t reduce taxes without new money
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:38 PM
and it would be nice if the mods would tell us what the current tax rates are
what do you think would be a reasonable decrease?
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:39 PM
None if we can’t secure more funding that isn’t just more taxes
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:39 PM
but we are
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:39 PM
You just want more taxes
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:39 PM
yes
different taxes
that make sense
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:39 PM
And that’s not a real solution
At the end of this we still have the economic situation
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:40 PM
do you have a better one that a bunch of people aren't agaisnt?
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:40 PM
and the farmers are still poor
Just marginally less poor
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:40 PM
@Snaxolas can i ask what you think a reasonable tax cut would be?
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:40 PM
Lots of people won’t be okay with lowering taxes without new cash
That isn’t just more taxes
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:41 PM
we are getting new cash. i reiterate, do you have any other solutions that aren't foreign investment? (edited)
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:41 PM
@Snaxolas can i ask what you think a reasonable tax cut would be?
@character-confusion I mean, 50% seems like a good start.
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:41 PM
Other than some massive redistributive thing no
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:41 PM
50% across the board?
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:41 PM
There’s no other way a third world country can modernize
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:41 PM
50% to farm production
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:41 PM
would you object to progressive cuts?
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:41 PM
and the sooner you realize that the better
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:41 PM
but you must understand that there are serious drawbacks to taht
you can't just ignore it
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:42 PM
I realize.
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:42 PM
Not if its small
(Which it kind of is )
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:42 PM
DPP wanted a carbon tax
consider it
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:42 PM
I realize.
@Snaxolas i meant to evans
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:42 PM
(Compared to other stuff)
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:42 PM
oh
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:42 PM
there’s a way to do foreign investment correctly
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Snaxolas 04-Jun-20 05:42 PM
DPP wanted a carbon tax consider it
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:42 PM
There’s a middle ground between the IMF and North Korea
and that’s what I’m advocating for
let’s be pragmatic
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character-confusion 04-Jun-20 05:43 PM
i understand. but there are still a lot of reasons to be against it. reagardless, there are even more reasons not to put it in this bill
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Senator Evans 04-Jun-20 05:43 PM
Fine
Then It’ll go ahead
Without any actual meaningful oversight
Which is an even worse outcome
And we won’t really be able to ensure it’s safe
Without us (gubbint) working with them
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Snaxolas 06-Jun-20 05:49 AM
I likely will not be on for the debate later today
But I did create a Union that will have an impact on discussion
Here is the constitution
Constitution of the Agricultural Workers’ Association (AWA) of Patrium Written by Sen. Ellis of the Libertarian Socialist Federation, Sen. Mega of the Libertarian Socialist Federation, and various other contributors. What is the AWA, and what does it do? The AWA is an ...
Read it over
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parm 06-Jun-20 07:01 AM
Same
im prolly not gonna be on that much toay
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MemesOnPizza 06-Jun-20 07:02 AM
Just have imaginary tax rates
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parm 06-Jun-20 07:03 AM
smh
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Snaxolas 06-Jun-20 05:19 PM
@character-confusion If you are going to continue to cite an idea I was playing with, with absolutely no commitment, without a solid idea of what farmers really wanted, as evidence to my incompetence and bias as a senator, I don't know what to say.
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:19 PM
lmao it wasn't just you really, and it's not about that
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Snaxolas 06-Jun-20 05:19 PM
Then what is it about
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:20 PM
a) it was a lot of people, and i just think it's poor way to play the game, plus it's quite practically unhelpful to actual people
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:21 PM
meh
i like playing it like that
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:21 PM
b) i just find it gratifying when every mod continues to say our party did this right when i've been trying to convince you of that for 4 days
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Snaxolas 06-Jun-20 05:21 PM
technically they support union laws
No, they want better representation, which means a Union
Not Union laws
Although that might follow
We didn't get told it
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:21 PM
didn't ark say that a poll found farmers in favor of a union
the AWA
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Snaxolas 06-Jun-20 05:22 PM
Yep
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:22 PM
yes
but
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:22 PM
so...
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:22 PM
i'm talking about your plan to abolish the AD
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:22 PM
we've given up on it
yeesh
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:22 PM
ik
but
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Snaxolas 06-Jun-20 05:22 PM
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:22 PM
it was still your idea for a long time
plus
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Snaxolas 06-Jun-20 05:22 PM
Zero commitment
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:22 PM
i don't want to play that way in the future (edited)
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:22 PM
how am i supposed to fix what i did in the past
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:23 PM
agree not to do it in the future
and admit to playing wrong
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:23 PM
agree to not doing what in the future
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Snaxolas 06-Jun-20 05:23 PM
What is it we did wrong
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:23 PM
push ideological agendas instead of practical solutions (edited)
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:23 PM
and there's no such thing as playing "wrong"
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Snaxolas 06-Jun-20 05:23 PM
But... That isn't even really our agenda
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:23 PM
perhaps you should too?
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:23 PM
according to mods there is (edited)
mods loved my proposal lmao
and disliked yours
cause of agenda
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:24 PM
so
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Snaxolas 06-Jun-20 05:24 PM
Uhhhh
One mod
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:24 PM
ye
only ark even said anything about it
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Snaxolas 06-Jun-20 05:24 PM
(Not even the DM)
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:24 PM
and i dont even think he was clear about that
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:24 PM
ark did
frank did
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Snaxolas 06-Jun-20 05:24 PM
Frank did?
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:24 PM
yeah lmao
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:25 PM
can u show me a screenie
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Snaxolas 06-Jun-20 05:25 PM
Never saw that
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Snaxolas 06-Jun-20 05:25 PM
Also this discussion is useless
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:25 PM
one offhand remark by a mod = lol ur proposal sucks
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:25 PM
i mean
it did lmao
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Snaxolas 06-Jun-20 05:26 PM
We will do whatever is the most extreme thing we can that will pass, as ultimately we think that is the most we can do to help workers. Of course, we won't do anything without their support
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:26 PM
lib unity > left unity
smh
atleast libs dont impose
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:27 PM
lmao
this is my point
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Snaxolas 06-Jun-20 05:27 PM
Yeah?
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:27 PM
yeah so
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Snaxolas 06-Jun-20 05:27 PM
We play differently
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:27 PM
^
If you don't like the way we play
we're following all the rules
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:28 PM
mods don't either tho
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:28 PM
so..
we're following all the rules
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Snaxolas 06-Jun-20 05:28 PM
I mean, Frank seems to like the union
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:28 PM
and you guys have SUCH a superiority complex that you think your ideology is write for EVERYTHING?
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:28 PM
and it's not like we're hated by anyone
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Mr.Korrupto 06-Jun-20 05:28 PM
if farmers want their voice in the senate, how 'bout we do a whole commitee with x amount of experts from each sector? so agriculture, manufacturing and service, with the amount of experts based on the % of how much each sector contributes to our GDP
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:29 PM
and you guys have SUCH a superiority complex that you think your ideology is write for EVERYTHING?
@character-confusion Yeah, if I didn't think it was right, then I would change it
if farmers want their voice in the senate, how 'bout we do a whole commitee with x amount of experts from each sector? so agriculture, manufacturing and service, with the amount of experts based on the % of how much each sector contributes to our GDP
@Mr.Korrupto That's a cool idea
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Snaxolas 06-Jun-20 05:29 PM
Eh
I don't like it
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Mr.Korrupto 06-Jun-20 05:29 PM
why?
each sector gets a voice based on how much they contribute to the country
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:30 PM
apparently superiority complex = having an ideology that you think works
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:30 PM
@character-confusion
>
Yeah, if I didn't think it was right, then I would change it
@parm my point is, you aren't always right. your solution isn't always the best. as evidenced by your original proposal of defunding th AD
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Snaxolas 06-Jun-20 05:30 PM
It's not the workers getting a voice
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:30 PM
If you don't think your solution is correct then get the correct one
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:30 PM
no
yours was incorrect
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Snaxolas 06-Jun-20 05:30 PM
Character, drop it.
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:30 PM
despite you being SO SURE it was right
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:30 PM
yeah
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:30 PM
that's why i keep bringing it up
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:30 PM
bruh
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:31 PM
to show you taht you're DOING IT WRONG
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Snaxolas 06-Jun-20 05:31 PM
despite you being SO SURE it was right
@character-confusion NO
I NEVER SAID THAT
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:31 PM
at this point you're just being a dick over smth i did a few days ago and ended it
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:31 PM
well
i'm not
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Snaxolas 06-Jun-20 05:31 PM
I, MULTIPLE TIMES, SAID I WASN'T SURE ABOUT IT
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:31 PM
you're the one who's making it unfun
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:31 PM
i would like to get you to actually change your behavior
but
if that isn't gonna happen, fine
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Snaxolas 06-Jun-20 05:32 PM
What behavior
Explain
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:32 PM
pushing yoru agenda, thinking lib is always the way to go
it's not
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Mr.Korrupto 06-Jun-20 05:32 PM
🍿 CHEAP POPCORN, GET YOURS NOW! 🍿
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:32 PM
if you show me how to go back in time to change my original support for defunding the AD, then i will
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:32 PM
that's not waht i want
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 06-Jun-20 05:32 PM
🍿 CHEAP POPCORN, GET YOURS NOW! 🍿
@Mr.Korrupto I'll buy some
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:32 PM
i want you to stop thinking that you should always immidiately propose a super lib solution
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:33 PM
if lib isn't what i want then i wouldn't be a lib
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:33 PM
but that's my entire point
your ideology won't always make a situation better
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Snaxolas 06-Jun-20 05:33 PM
What, that we shouldn't be libs
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:33 PM
sometimes
you should want to help people
even if it means going against yoru ideology
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:33 PM
thats ur opinion
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Snaxolas 06-Jun-20 05:33 PM
I'm willing to compromise
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:33 PM
no it's not
i put people first
before my own ideology
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:33 PM
uh huh
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:33 PM
that's my whole point
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Snaxolas 06-Jun-20 05:33 PM
You put your ideology last, it seems
Not to your benefit
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:34 PM
compromise and selling out ≠ serving the people
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Pelican 06-Jun-20 05:34 PM
i put people first
@character-confusion that is, in itself part of your ideology
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:34 PM
^
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:34 PM
yes
part of my ideology is actually listening to what people want
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:34 PM
if ur solution doesn't work then change ur solution
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:34 PM
before just passing legislation that i want to pass
that's being a good senator
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:34 PM
yeah
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:34 PM
but you didn't do that
and forget the past
i just don't want you to do it in the future
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Snaxolas 06-Jun-20 05:35 PM
This entire debate stems from the fact that we did not know what farmers want
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:35 PM
but our proposal was based off of limited polling and our final one was supoorted
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Snaxolas 06-Jun-20 05:35 PM
I tried asking mods
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:35 PM
^
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Snaxolas 06-Jun-20 05:35 PM
None were on
You made a guess
You ended up right
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:35 PM
us?
no
we only drafted after we talked to them
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:35 PM
How TF am i supposed to put the "people first" when i don't know what they want
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:35 PM
ask first
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Snaxolas 06-Jun-20 05:35 PM
Tried
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:36 PM
get an answer first
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:36 PM
we tried
for a few days
and that was a proposal we dropped as soon as we realized that the farmers don't support it
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Snaxolas 06-Jun-20 05:36 PM
How about this: we will get an answer from mods before writing any legislation
We can agree on that
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:37 PM
^
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:37 PM
yeah that would be good. still hope you stop agenda pushing after that, would also be good
you did this time
i hope it continues
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:37 PM
bruh
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:37 PM
well
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Snaxolas 06-Jun-20 05:37 PM
If the truth does not fit our ideology, we will change (edited)
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:37 PM
^
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:37 PM
good
that's all i want
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Snaxolas 06-Jun-20 05:38 PM
Good
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:38 PM
Politics is pushing an agenda; nothing else
unfortunately
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:38 PM
eh
doesn't have to be
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:38 PM
yeah
but it is
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:38 PM
and even so, there are VAST degrees
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:38 PM
and thats a human trait
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:38 PM
it's not
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Mr.Korrupto 06-Jun-20 05:38 PM
you can push an agenda that will benefit everyone and push an agenda that will only benefit your party
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:38 PM
^
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Snaxolas 06-Jun-20 05:38 PM
I don't think it is, mega
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:38 PM
meh
IMO it's natural to push for what u want
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character-confusion 06-Jun-20 05:39 PM
governments are capable of working for the public good
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:39 PM
humans are flawed creatures
ascend past
nobody wants to help draft the AFL
smh
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Snaxolas 06-Jun-20 05:40 PM
Humans are flawed, but we aren't hardwired to have any certain flaws, at least in our thinking. We can definitely adapt
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:40 PM
i guess
but i need to eat
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Snaxolas 06-Jun-20 05:41 PM
I might draft the AFL thing
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parm 06-Jun-20 05:41 PM
k
keep the formatting
and only do the policy sections
each number is one policy that we support
and civic ones are those involving govt. and foreign policy
cultural involves tech, culture, etc.
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All Dogs are QUEENS 16-Jun-20 06:04 PM
If there were no other concerns this would probs be a good ideal for a highway network (I haven't checked how much it'd cost and other people have actual policy figured out, I just decided to cook this up)
We'd give small cities the option as to whether the highway would go through or around them
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Senator Evans 16-Jun-20 06:05 PM
It also needs to go to selva tho?
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All Dogs are QUEENS 16-Jun-20 06:06 PM
Yeah that'd connect to the highway in Tilley
I assume they're paying for the highway in their own nation
(Then ideally we'd lay two track trainlines between each major city)
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MemesOnPizza 16-Jun-20 06:10 PM
That plan sucks.
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All Dogs are QUEENS 16-Jun-20 06:10 PM
Why is than Pizza
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MemesOnPizza 16-Jun-20 06:10 PM
It is too coherent.
We need an incoherent plan.
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All Dogs are QUEENS 16-Jun-20 06:11 PM
Fair
I had no considerations when making this other than "What makes the most sense to do"
Also "What do we need from a highway system"
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Dieselkeough 16-Jun-20 06:12 PM
i dont think we could afford that
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All Dogs are QUEENS 16-Jun-20 06:12 PM
That's why it's the ideal
(though that's also why most of it's 4 lane highway)
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All Dogs are QUEENS 16-Jun-20 06:30 PM
This would be the start of any train line probs
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character-confusion 16-Jun-20 06:31 PM
I thought we weren't makign a train line rn
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All Dogs are QUEENS 16-Jun-20 06:31 PM
Yeah
For the future
Dude New Porto would fucking love a train line tho
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All Dogs are QUEENS 16-Jun-20 06:44 PM
If we really wanted to invest in train this could be a possible way to do it (I don't know why I made this, I do not think)
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Dieselkeough 16-Jun-20 06:45 PM
we should eventually connect with every major city, including all ports (edited)
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All Dogs are QUEENS 16-Jun-20 06:45 PM
Hmmm
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Dieselkeough 16-Jun-20 06:45 PM
because its more than just passenger rail
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All Dogs are QUEENS 16-Jun-20 06:45 PM
There aren't enough phase three lines there
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Dieselkeough 16-Jun-20 06:45 PM
commercial and industrial rail as well
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All Dogs are QUEENS 16-Jun-20 06:47 PM
You know what
I'll be the first to admit it
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Dieselkeough 16-Jun-20 06:47 PM
ono
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All Dogs are QUEENS 16-Jun-20 06:47 PM
That 2nd document made no sense
I did not put enough thought into it
Or
The 3rd one
whoops
The first doc and the one for the initial train line are good tho
I stand by those
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Sen. Julian Titus (Chiang) 16-Jun-20 07:20 PM
@All Dogs are QUEENS Now i like that idea but i added one more line just so that it is connected by something to the main land (Tunnel)
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All Dogs are QUEENS 16-Jun-20 07:25 PM
Sure (tho if/when we do train lines I'd def. redo everything phase 2 onward) (edited)
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character-confusion 18-Jun-20 03:32 PM
leslie wants to put a major trading port right on the border of thuziland? hmmmmm
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Deleted User 18-Jun-20 03:33 PM
Oh yeah
hmm
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Dieselkeough 18-Jun-20 03:37 PM
we also will have better military mobilisation
so if thuzi attacks, we will be better equipped to respond to an attack than under your bill
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character-confusion 18-Jun-20 03:37 PM
riiiight
better equipped for a major port to be riiiight within thuziland's reach
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Deleted User 18-Jun-20 03:43 PM
big brain Leslie moments
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Dieselkeough 18-Jun-20 03:44 PM
also i expanded plans for the railway thing
i really like the ideas for it
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 18-Jun-20 03:44 PM
ooo, nice colors
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Deleted User 18-Jun-20 03:48 PM
We building the hitler highway or sumthin? @Dieselkeough
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Dieselkeough 18-Jun-20 03:48 PM
nah
its a plan to build railways to connect all of patrium
we plan to transition patrium to a more european system of travel
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All Dogs are QUEENS 19-Jun-20 03:26 PM
My fair sir, if it would please I would make a few suggestions for an edit to this plan pauses
Very well then
To avoid an economic starvation of our western ports I would suggest moving the section of the Phase Two tracks west of Catalan south to go through these ports
In addition, there are cities bordering the phase one track with no access to a major road
If we could and there are no objections, it may be best to move our Phase One track in the east slightly south to move through this city and even it's nearby contemporaries as well
I will make no statements on the plans for Phases 4 and 5, as these have not been defiled by my very paws and as such should be assumed to be more whole for it
// Victoria is quite drunk still in case you haven't noticed
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Dieselkeough 19-Jun-20 03:51 PM
"Didnt you make phase 1 and two? I just added on to it."
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 23-Jun-20 02:32 PM
If these conditions are not met the United States will face severe economic retaliation
Do we have the ability to do this? Bruh.
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Senator Evans 23-Jun-20 02:32 PM
We kind of do
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SunoBeta 23-Jun-20 02:33 PM
boohoo
what's stoping me from voting for both
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 23-Jun-20 02:34 PM
I'm really not for going in a trade war with the US...
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Senator Evans 23-Jun-20 02:35 PM
Well I’m not in favor of foreign businessmen stepping all over our government and justice system (edited)
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SunoBeta 23-Jun-20 02:36 PM
ok nigga caaaaaaaaaaaaat how exactly is this the US govenrment's fault?
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Senator Evans 23-Jun-20 02:36 PM
They can extradite him
Then they have no fault in anything
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SunoBeta 23-Jun-20 02:37 PM
me when commies seize private property and it doesn't work out
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Elitemagikarp 23-Jun-20 03:36 PM
saying something won't work even though it hasn't happened
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 23-Jun-20 03:58 PM
Lmao
You're saying commies have never seized private property?
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character-confusion 23-Jun-20 04:07 PM
I believe elite was referring to this game?
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MemesOnPizza 25-Jun-20 06:21 AM
Alright
Guys
You should support LOGIC's plan.
Stop supporting these C*mpassist plans
The Q.C. Plan (The Quite Cunning Plan) Students shall take i, or sqrt(-1) classes before graduation shall be considered. Universities shall only accept the worst-performing students. The order of school progression shall be reversed, meaning that primary school teaches student...
That is my plan if you wanted to know.
I will debate anyone who questions the validity of this plan.
Cowards...
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 25-Jun-20 06:32 AM
What would happen if every student is equally gifted? Checkmate
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MemesOnPizza 25-Jun-20 06:34 AM
Should multiple students be equal performers, only one student of the collective of equal performers shall graduate: one determined by random chance.
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Bucksin6 25-Jun-20 06:34 AM
I had a theory like this if I ever did multiple choice tests if I was a teacher
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MemesOnPizza 25-Jun-20 06:34 AM
Off-Compass never fails.
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Bucksin6 25-Jun-20 06:35 AM
If you get a zero on a multiple choice test with 50+ answers I'd give them a perfect score
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 25-Jun-20 06:35 AM
So how about schools that knows about this and have gifted students splitted into classes of 1
In theory, it is the only one of that class graduated
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Bucksin6 25-Jun-20 06:35 AM
But if you get 1 right, then that's your grade. So you have to know all the answers to make sure you get them wrong
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 25-Jun-20 06:36 AM
Based
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Bucksin6 25-Jun-20 06:36 AM
What do you think of that policy irl?
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MemesOnPizza 25-Jun-20 06:36 AM
We should make the worst-performing students pass and the best-performing students fail.
Universities shall only accept the worst-performing students.
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Bucksin6 25-Jun-20 06:37 AM
As a genius with learning disabilities I fully support this
2.1 gpa fuck yeah
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MemesOnPizza 25-Jun-20 06:37 AM
Your GPA should be imaginary to pass.
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Bucksin6 25-Jun-20 06:37 AM
I'm talking irl
That was my irl gpa
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MemesOnPizza 25-Jun-20 06:38 AM
Okay...
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Bucksin6 25-Jun-20 06:38 AM
I got D's in AP classes but 5's on the exams OwO
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MemesOnPizza 25-Jun-20 06:39 AM
Barely enough to pass :/
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Bucksin6 25-Jun-20 06:39 AM
I had to take freshman English as a senior
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Mr.Korrupto 25-Jun-20 06:39 AM
idk how gpa works
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Bucksin6 25-Jun-20 06:39 AM
2.0 is a C average
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Mr.Korrupto 25-Jun-20 06:39 AM
all I've got over here is a normal average
I have 4.11 for the end of this year in technikum
so that's a little bit over B
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Bucksin6 25-Jun-20 06:40 AM
4.0 in America is A average
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Mr.Korrupto 25-Jun-20 06:40 AM
5.0 is A here
but y'all using letters for grades
I have numbers for grades
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MemesOnPizza 25-Jun-20 06:41 AM
It works differently in other countries, or maybe @Mr.Korrupto took AP classes, which are worth 5.0 instead of 4.0 GPA.
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 25-Jun-20 06:41 AM
9/10 (or 4.5) is equal to an A
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Mr.Korrupto 25-Jun-20 06:41 AM
1 - worst, 6 - best
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 25-Jun-20 06:41 AM
At least converted to where I live
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Bucksin6 25-Jun-20 06:41 AM
I got a C average even with a quarter of my classes being sports
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 25-Jun-20 06:42 AM
I would have a C max if that's the case
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Bucksin6 25-Jun-20 06:42 AM
I took 6 pe classes senior year
Turbo boosted my gpa
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MemesOnPizza 25-Jun-20 06:43 AM
Yeah
You probably needed that.
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 25-Jun-20 06:43 AM
Lucky you Mr "Can choose your subjects"
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Bucksin6 25-Jun-20 06:43 AM
Even had a pe teacher write one of my letter of recommendation cause I sucked in so many other classes
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MemesOnPizza 25-Jun-20 06:43 AM
Your senior year was more than a bruh moment; it was a bruh year.
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 25-Jun-20 06:43 AM
12 subjects of pain, propaganda and obsolescence is what I have
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Bucksin6 25-Jun-20 06:44 AM
Well I didnt need the credits so I could have had free periods but it need the boost to grades plus I love sports
I also took a semester of freshman English
Cause I failed that shit twice
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Mr.Korrupto 25-Jun-20 06:45 AM
12 subjects of pain, propaganda and obsolescence is what I have
@Dr. Kris Lawrence urbanite marxists?
since that description fits about good for urbanite marxists as teachers
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Bucksin6 25-Jun-20 06:45 AM
School is bullshit imo. All it does is measure how well you fit into a specific system
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Mr.Korrupto 25-Jun-20 06:46 AM
School is bullshit imo. All it does is measure how well you fit into a specific system
@Bucksin6 preach
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MemesOnPizza 25-Jun-20 06:46 AM
...
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Mr.Korrupto 25-Jun-20 06:46 AM
I've got relatively bad grades from useless subjects to my job
but I've got B's and A's in what counts (edited)
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Bucksin6 25-Jun-20 06:46 AM
^
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Mr.Korrupto 25-Jun-20 06:46 AM
I was close to a fucking 6 from one subject
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Bucksin6 25-Jun-20 06:46 AM
And then you can get uni credit for what you are good at and have to take the shit you are bad at in uni
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MemesOnPizza 25-Jun-20 06:46 AM
MrKorrupto cutting corners wherever he can...
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Mr.Korrupto 25-Jun-20 06:47 AM
that is actually revelant to my future job
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Bucksin6 25-Jun-20 06:47 AM
Future job?
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 25-Jun-20 06:47 AM
@Dr. Kris Lawrence urbanite marxists?
@Mr.Korrupto What else in a nation which is run by a 100% majority parliament of the Communist Party. At least I still have free internet to talk to you guys
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Mr.Korrupto 25-Jun-20 06:47 AM
@Bucksin6 technikum
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Bucksin6 25-Jun-20 06:47 AM
The fuk
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Mr.Korrupto 25-Jun-20 06:47 AM
a type of school that is like...
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Bucksin6 25-Jun-20 06:47 AM
English
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Mr.Korrupto 25-Jun-20 06:47 AM
what do I explain it
murican system confuses me
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Bucksin6 25-Jun-20 06:48 AM
What job will you do
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Mr.Korrupto 25-Jun-20 06:48 AM
Pius
in murican system
what is the school of an age range of 13/14 to 18/19 (edited)
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Bucksin6 25-Jun-20 06:48 AM
High school
Your secondary school equivalent
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Mr.Korrupto 25-Jun-20 06:49 AM
so its like high school but instead of just normal subjects
one also gets a profile that has to deal with more uni? like subjects
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Bucksin6 25-Jun-20 06:49 AM
Ok but what job do you want. I know about specialization
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Mr.Korrupto 25-Jun-20 06:49 AM
so instead of being generalised
ah, music shit
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Bucksin6 25-Jun-20 06:49 AM
Oof
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Mr.Korrupto 25-Jun-20 06:49 AM
the profile is technically recording in a studio
and shit
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MemesOnPizza 25-Jun-20 06:49 AM
We need to reverse the order in which subjects are taught. We need to have primary school teach calculus and secondary school teach arithmetic.
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Mr.Korrupto 25-Jun-20 06:49 AM
but I'm using it for a. future job "credit" and uni "credit" b. learning useful stuff for anything but recording or studio work (edited)
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Bucksin6 25-Jun-20 06:50 AM
Cool
Oh you may have heard of my friend
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Mr.Korrupto 25-Jun-20 06:50 AM
since I'm mostly aiming for a more music production aproach
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Bucksin6 25-Jun-20 06:50 AM
He's from Poland and we worked on a piece together
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Mr.Korrupto 25-Jun-20 06:50 AM
and general freelance stuff for my work
this is mostly what I wanna do
ghost produce tracks, and have a career going
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Bucksin6 25-Jun-20 06:51 AM
OwO
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Mr.Korrupto 25-Jun-20 06:51 AM
studio job as a fallback
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Bucksin6 25-Jun-20 06:51 AM
Successful men are hot
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Mr.Korrupto 25-Jun-20 06:51 AM
recording shitty pop tracks and mixing them is the least I want to do
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Bucksin6 25-Jun-20 06:51 AM
Lol
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Mr.Korrupto 25-Jun-20 06:52 AM
I'd rather work on something I like
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Bucksin6 25-Jun-20 06:52 AM
Ye
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Mr.Korrupto 25-Jun-20 06:52 AM
but eyyy atleast it wont be a corporate setting job
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Bucksin6 25-Jun-20 06:52 AM
I wanna do politics but for now I'm just a computer technician/engineer cause you don't need school for that lol
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Amaaroc 25-Jun-20 06:53 AM
You see I just work with birds
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Bucksin6 25-Jun-20 06:53 AM
Don't let dinoboy hear that
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Amaaroc 25-Jun-20 06:53 AM
Oh no
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Bucksin6 25-Jun-20 06:54 AM
You see I just work with birds
@Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!)
(edited)
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 25-Jun-20 06:54 AM
No
Must protecc
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Amaaroc 25-Jun-20 06:54 AM
oh no
My poor birds :c
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Bucksin6 25-Jun-20 06:54 AM
YwY
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 25-Jun-20 06:55 AM
Time to break the fourth wall and asked for Chara's broom
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Bucksin6 25-Jun-20 06:55 AM
Also spelled birbs wrong too
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Amaaroc 25-Jun-20 06:55 AM
I’d send pictures of the birds I work with but they’re a lot more recognizable than the mantids and I don’t own them, per say
Oh shit oh fuck
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Bucksin6 25-Jun-20 06:55 AM
*birbs
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Amaaroc 25-Jun-20 06:55 AM
Birbs!
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 25-Jun-20 06:55 AM
Birbs!
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Bucksin6 25-Jun-20 06:55 AM
*burbs is also acceptable spelling
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Mr.Korrupto 25-Jun-20 06:56 AM
tfw you have a project called "życie" (life in polish) and its just a noisy clusterfuck
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Bucksin6 25-Jun-20 06:56 AM
Smol angery birbs?
Poland is a noisy clusterfuck tbh
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Amaaroc 25-Jun-20 06:56 AM
Birds of prey!
Mostly American birds but there are some foreign ones too, because there are idiots that think they can own a foreign bird of prey and proceed to think it can survive in the wild when it’s not in its native climate and it’s literally captive bred
I saw that
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MemesOnPizza 25-Jun-20 07:24 AM
IDK
Just support LOGIC's plan
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MemesOnPizza 25-Jun-20 07:37 AM
I like the Cunning Plan.
*the Quite Cunning Plan
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SunoBeta 25-Jun-20 07:40 AM
comflushed
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MemesOnPizza 25-Jun-20 08:50 AM
Please vote for the off-Compass plan
The Q.C. Plan (The Quite Cunning Plan) Students shall take i, or sqrt(-1) classes before graduation shall be considered. Should multiple students be equal performers, only one student of the collective of equal performers shall graduate: one determined by random chance. Univer...
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Elitemagikarp 25-Jun-20 09:34 AM
what about the cumming plan?
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MemesOnPizza 25-Jun-20 09:34 AM
No
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 25-Jun-20 01:17 PM
B I R D
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 07:50 PM
annnyhow
@Big Brother (Clement2022)
@Amaaroc
@Dr. Kris Lawrence
@parm
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Amaaroc 26-Jun-20 07:50 PM
Breathes
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 07:50 PM
@All Dogs are QUEENS
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parm 26-Jun-20 07:50 PM
GNOCCHI
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 07:50 PM
shut
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Amaaroc 26-Jun-20 07:50 PM
Time to murder Mega
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 07:50 PM
anyhow,
Any child who graduates successfully from high school will be given a set sum of money to the family in order to create an incentive for families who need financial assistance. Moreover, we believe a teacher's wage should be tied to the academic improvement in their students. And the student's scholarships/financial assistance programs be tied to their performances.
(edited)
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parm 26-Jun-20 07:50 PM
i only support if you add gnocchi to school lunch
but thats good
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Amaaroc 26-Jun-20 07:51 PM
I think so as well
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 07:51 PM
bruh @Big Brother (Clement2022) it's you're proposal
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 07:52 PM
So you'd want to make all scholarships/financial aid at least partially merit scholarships
Or atleast have a merit baseline
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 07:52 PM
@Big Brother (Clement2022)
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 26-Jun-20 07:53 PM
Hello
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 07:53 PM
please defend your position on merit salaries
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 26-Jun-20 07:54 PM
Ok
Keyboard is fixed
I think it's common sense
Output based salaries are better than input based
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 07:54 PM
i mean like raises based on test results?
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 26-Jun-20 07:54 PM
Yeah
One sec
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Amaaroc 26-Jun-20 07:55 PM
Wouldn't that incentivise teachers to cheat though
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 26-Jun-20 07:55 PM
Eating dinner
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Senator Braucht von Stein 26-Jun-20 07:55 PM
What happens when students get low grades in purpose
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 07:55 PM
Also I kinda worry that maybe possibly that point could cause teachers to either A: just pass students along (the way schools in the U.S. pass kids that don't know how to read to make sure their passing rates don't go too low) or B: Spend a lot of the year teaching kids how to take tests [or how to take a specific test] instead of teaching the subject
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 07:55 PM
Wouldn't that incentivise teachers to cheat though
@Amaaroc how would they though? they're being overseen by the educational department and school boards
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Senator Braucht von Stein 26-Jun-20 07:55 PM
I know it's an improbable scenario, but never underestimate the teenage mind
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 07:56 PM
I'd be okay with that as a form of protest against a bad teacher here
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Senator Braucht von Stein 26-Jun-20 07:56 PM
What if they don't do it as a protest
But as a way to make the teacher not to get paid or to be fired?
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 07:56 PM
you know we came here to actually discuss the bill among its supporters, right?
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Senator Braucht von Stein 26-Jun-20 07:56 PM
Nope
Sorry
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 07:57 PM
okay so
merit based raises? seems fairly reasonable to me
alright....
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SunoBeta 26-Jun-20 07:58 PM
NO
INEQUALITY
IS
RACIST
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 07:58 PM
tech research money to colleges? seems reasonable tome
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 07:58 PM
I mean we should at least adress the points raised against it tho
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 07:58 PM
i think we can all agree to thta one
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 26-Jun-20 07:58 PM
Get out of here Suno
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 07:58 PM
Yeah!
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 07:58 PM
well i wanna but
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 26-Jun-20 07:58 PM
Yea
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 07:58 PM
people stopped typing
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 07:58 PM
As a former transhumanist of course I have to say yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
: ))))
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 07:59 PM
is more time needed
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 07:59 PM
[oh god i came ON TOO STRONG]
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 07:59 PM
Also I kinda worry that maybe possibly that point could cause teachers to either A: just pass students along (the way schools in the U.S. pass kids that don't know how to read to make sure their passing rates don't go too low) or B: Spend a lot of the year teaching kids how to take tests [or how to take a specific test] instead of teaching the subject
@All Dogs are QUEENS i mean yes but you have to have some way to evaluate teachers, same as students
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Amaaroc 26-Jun-20 07:59 PM
I stopped typing because I'm going to the store
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 07:59 PM
The point B could be adressed by having the schools having everyone take a test taking course
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 08:00 PM
seems like a huge waste
also defeats the point of testing
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:00 PM
So if a teacher is just teaching how to pass a test it would have to be beyond a reasonable point and they'd get reported
oh...
well.
I disagree
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 08:00 PM
with?
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:00 PM
times up
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 08:00 PM
hm
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:00 PM
That it defeats the point of testing
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:00 PM
im gonna put bills up now
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Amaaroc 26-Jun-20 08:01 PM
Well teachers if incentivized by testing just teach their kids how to pass instead of stuff
DPP_ball1 1
Ah
Welp
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 08:01 PM
okay well
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:01 PM
@SunoBeta @Mr.Korrupto can i get the bill, or upload from the pin
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 08:01 PM
i guess i'll leave it off?
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Amaaroc 26-Jun-20 08:01 PM
I guess so
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:01 PM
@character-confusion should i just put yours up
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:01 PM
Yeah I guess
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 08:01 PM
lemme clean it up
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:01 PM
ok
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Bucksin6 26-Jun-20 08:01 PM
time for mr clean
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 08:01 PM
Patrian Education Program Program’s Goal: The goal of this program is to reform Patrium’s current education system. At present, schooling is only required and offered publicly for free up to age 12. (For the purposes of this document, we will refer to this as lower education....
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:02 PM
Though I will say that teaching everybody test taking skills just makes sure that what's being tested is the kids knowledge
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SunoBeta 26-Jun-20 08:02 PM
The ILP Education bill Section 1: Affirmative action The ILP understands that teachers around Patrium have unfairly been treating minorities better, the ILP believes in equality of opportunity, not outcome, and thus will crack down in this, punishments may vary from discip...
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:02 PM
And not how good they are at taking tests (edited)
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 08:02 PM
Though I will say that teaching everybody test taking skills just makes sure that what's being tested is the kids knowledge
@All Dogs are QUEENS teaching test taking skills is also somewhat a waste of time that could be spent teaching actual practical skills
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:02 PM
And reduces inequality between kids who can afford a tutor and kids who can't
Fair
That's why courses like that are usually taught after school (edited)
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Amaaroc 26-Jun-20 08:02 PM
I think it'll be better to use it on practical skills
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 26-Jun-20 08:02 PM
^
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Bucksin6 26-Jun-20 08:02 PM
i mean i rock at tests irl and got a 2.1 gpa in highschool
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SunoBeta 26-Jun-20 08:03 PM
The ILP Education bill Section 1: Affirmative action The ILP understands that teachers around Patrium have unfairly been treating minorities better, the ILP believes in equality of opportunity, not outcome, and thus will crack down in this, punishments may vary from discip...
@Deleted User
The ILP Education bill Section 1: Affirmative action The ILP understands that teachers around Patrium have unfairly been treating minorities better, the ILP believes in equality of opportunity, not outcome, and thus will crack down in this, punishments may vary from discip...
The ILP Education bill Section 1: Affirmative action The ILP understands that teachers around Patrium have unfairly been treating minorities better, the ILP believes in equality of opportunity, not outcome, and thus will crack down in this, punishments may vary from discip...
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Amaaroc 26-Jun-20 08:03 PM
Big fucking mood Pius
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:03 PM
ok
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 26-Jun-20 08:03 PM
STOP SPAMMING
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Amaaroc 26-Jun-20 08:03 PM
Mute suno if he keeps spamming Pwease
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:03 PM
Though if it's an issue for a school the school can just choose to teach it in the present bill
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SunoBeta 26-Jun-20 08:03 PM
btw guys do you know how to solve a bernoulli differnatial equaiton
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 08:03 PM
yeah
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Bucksin6 26-Jun-20 08:03 PM
@Amaaroc its cause im lazy and suck at writing
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:03 PM
Yeah actually you all are right
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SunoBeta 26-Jun-20 08:03 PM
I don't talk to peasants like you
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:03 PM
forget i brought it up
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 08:03 PM
it still gives schools and the education department a lot of options to design curricula
it's not like we're being exact here
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:04 PM
Suno as literal royalty
If you wish to spam
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 08:04 PM
we're making a framework
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:04 PM
Go to #spamming \
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Bucksin6 26-Jun-20 08:04 PM
@Amaaroc you still in school right?
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:04 PM
overly dramatically bows
Gets leg stuck on saber
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Amaaroc 26-Jun-20 08:04 PM
Aye, kinda
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:04 PM
Nearly trips and impales self
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Amaaroc 26-Jun-20 08:05 PM
Brb, tho, if you wanna talk about OOC stuff it can be in 30 minutes when I'm done buying things
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Bucksin6 26-Jun-20 08:05 PM
kk
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 08:05 PM
bruh @Deleted User just leave your emotes up
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:06 PM
someone keeps messing with 2
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Senator Grover 26-Jun-20 08:06 PM
yeah I can see
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:06 PM
everytime i unreact for the official message it goes away
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 08:06 PM
so just keep the reacts up
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 26-Jun-20 08:07 PM
Just minus one from the final
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 08:07 PM
@Deleted User now 3 is gone
literally just keep your reacts on it
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 26-Jun-20 08:08 PM
Ok I'm back
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Bucksin6 26-Jun-20 08:08 PM
lol
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:09 PM
Abe you weren't here to debate your points and we ran out of time
I don't think they all made it in but don't quote me on that of course...
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 26-Jun-20 08:09 PM
What did we get done
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SunoBeta 26-Jun-20 08:09 PM
discord is against us
🤔 4
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 08:09 PM
lmao i saw that
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 26-Jun-20 08:09 PM
@character-confusion
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 08:10 PM
uh we added the part about stem funding
we debated on salaries but didn't come to a conclusion and billy made us stop
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Bucksin6 26-Jun-20 08:10 PM
gun discord making predictions 😉
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 26-Jun-20 08:10 PM
Grr
I guess the School Board could add that later.
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:10 PM
We can add it in a future bill Abe
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 26-Jun-20 08:10 PM
Right?
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 08:10 PM
yeah
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:10 PM
Or the school board
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Senator Grover 26-Jun-20 08:11 PM
wow
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:11 PM
why are the voting numbers off
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Senator Grover 26-Jun-20 08:11 PM
discord hates 2
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 08:11 PM
there's no reason you'd do raises besides merit really
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:11 PM
corruption
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 26-Jun-20 08:11 PM
Why not
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:11 PM
By the books teaching regardless of merit
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Senator Grover 26-Jun-20 08:11 PM
you just try using pollmaster or sth
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 26-Jun-20 08:11 PM
We have a corruption board
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Senator Grover 26-Jun-20 08:11 PM
lol
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:11 PM
how should i fix the voting
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 08:11 PM
i mean
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:11 PM
this is fucked
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 08:11 PM
don't?
i've seen it before, it usually updates...
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:12 PM
Gosh darn it Character!
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 26-Jun-20 08:12 PM
well, technically, scholarship grants are a meritocracy
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 08:12 PM
and you can always count to make sure
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:12 PM
Oh wait
Yeah
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 08:12 PM
question: without majority, is there runoff?
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 26-Jun-20 08:12 PM
like there are schools in South Korea just used to supplement primary education
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:12 PM
yeah
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AmongstShadows 26-Jun-20 08:12 PM
I only see 2 people for 2
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:12 PM
there is
theres 4 votes on 2 rn
its 10-4-0
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 08:12 PM
if you click it you can see more (edited)
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AmongstShadows 26-Jun-20 08:13 PM
now I see 3 for 2 but only 2 names
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 08:13 PM
click it
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:13 PM
Where has all the freedom gone and where is all the gold? What happened to our individual rights, like keeping and bearing arms? Isn’t there a leader who will restore prosperity? Late at night, the blacks run wild and I see white people flee. I need a Pinochet, I need a Pinochet to free up all the markets tonight. Privatize Industry, open up trade, and sentence the leftists to die. I need a Pinochet, I need a Pinochet to force massive repeals overnight. Stop the inflation, stabilize currency, and sentence all the leftists to die, all the leftists to die. Somewhere after midnight, I see Fox News Alerts. The White House under siege, and the President’s been hurt. Black and yellow flag’s been raised, And we’re all awaiting word. Granted he’s not Rothbard, but this could be a damn good start! I need a Pinochet, I need a Pinochet to free up all the markets tonight. Privatize Industry, open up trade, and sentence all leftists to die. I need a Pinochet, I need a Pinochet to force massive repeals overnight. Stop the inflation, stabilize currency, and sentence the all the leftists to die. Out where professors preach their propaganda, and where the feminists attack the family, I would swear that their somewhere out there, Lying to me. Out through the video and radio waves, And the print of the cucks. The virus is contagious,
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 08:13 PM
like right-click to view reacts (edited)
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:13 PM
So I'm calling for blood. I need a Pinochet, I need a Pinochet to send the helicopters to flight. Round up the commies, fly over main street, And drop them from a staggering height. I need a Pinochet, I need a Pinochet to barricade the borders tonight. Stop immigration, terminate welfare, and deport all illegals in sight. I need a Pinochet, I need a Pinochet to stand up against white genocide. Stop all the race pimping, reverse the diversity, revitalize our national pride. I need a Pinochet, I need a Pinochet to force massive repeals overnight. Stop the inflation, stabilize currency, and sentence all the leftists to die. I need a Pinochet, I need a Pinochet to send the helicopters to flight. Round up the commies, fly over main street, And drop them from a staggering height.
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 08:13 PM
bruh
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AmongstShadows 26-Jun-20 08:13 PM
That's what I'm saying. There are only two people
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:13 PM
Billy
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 26-Jun-20 08:13 PM
:troll:
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:13 PM
Billy
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 26-Jun-20 08:13 PM
Also Billy, add the troll emote pls.
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:13 PM
#spamming
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Bucksin6 26-Jun-20 08:13 PM
BILLY BASED
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AmongstShadows 26-Jun-20 08:13 PM
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:13 PM
bruh when i need more active mods so i can play again
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 26-Jun-20 08:13 PM
Ah yes, 4
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 08:14 PM
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Bucksin6 26-Jun-20 08:14 PM
its not spamming yal
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SunoBeta 26-Jun-20 08:14 PM
sorri
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 08:14 PM
see?
it's fine
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Bucksin6 26-Jun-20 08:14 PM
hes not repeating
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 26-Jun-20 08:14 PM
damn how fucked is the reacts
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:14 PM
Ahh
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Senator Braucht von Stein 26-Jun-20 08:14 PM
It's very fucked
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:14 PM
I believed he would
I appologize
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:14 PM
10-6-0
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:14 PM
Sorry
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AmongstShadows 26-Jun-20 08:14 PM
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:14 PM
its not logging 2 votes each time
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:15 PM
I mean
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:15 PM
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:15 PM
We all know that the actual vote is based on the number of people who vote for it
Not the number discord says
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:15 PM
ye
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:15 PM
So I think it's fine
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:15 PM
its just annoying thats all
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:15 PM
Yeah ofc
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 26-Jun-20 08:15 PM
Hey atleast.
It seems we have more competition.
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:15 PM
I'd duel discord if I could
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 26-Jun-20 08:15 PM
Than the previous bills.
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AmongstShadows 26-Jun-20 08:15 PM
but mine doesn't show the names. There is only 4 people and the number 4
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:16 PM
huh
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 08:16 PM
hm
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Senator Braucht von Stein 26-Jun-20 08:16 PM
Do bills go mostly unchallenged?
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AmongstShadows 26-Jun-20 08:16 PM
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:16 PM
depends
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:16 PM
I was going to vote both but I think with all we added I'm going to go for one
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:16 PM
the last one is an outlier
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Senator Braucht von Stein 26-Jun-20 08:16 PM
I have a question, how's the economy going (growth rate)?
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:16 PM
The authleft has been quite powerful lately
Seeing as auth unity is strong
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Senator Grover 26-Jun-20 08:17 PM
they are the most active
so
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AmongstShadows 26-Jun-20 08:17 PM
Because we actually care about the people
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:17 PM
And libleft is willing to choose left unity over going right
Most of the time
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 08:17 PM
economy is not great
unemployment high
we're pretty poor
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:17 PM
Unemployment high but not massive
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Senator Braucht von Stein 26-Jun-20 08:17 PM
Libright: it's our time to shine
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 08:17 PM
bruh
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:17 PM
General Augusto Pinochet was indicted for human rights violations committed in his native Chile by Spanish magistrate Baltasar Garzón on 10 October 1998. He was arrested in London six days later and held on house arrest for a year and a half before being released by the Britis...
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:17 PM
We're poor mostly non industrial country
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 08:18 PM
hmmmm
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:18 PM
We grow rice here
We grow
So much rice
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:18 PM
theres not even auth right
so theres no need for auth unity
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:18 PM
Auth center is strong
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Senator Grover 26-Jun-20 08:18 PM
did chalice vote for two?
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AmongstShadows 26-Jun-20 08:18 PM
the fascists don't want to play
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:18 PM
And very willing to work with auth left
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Senator Braucht von Stein 26-Jun-20 08:18 PM
We need some tax cuts
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:18 PM
i'd make an "auth" right party when i can stop modding (edited)
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Senator Braucht von Stein 26-Jun-20 08:18 PM
And some deregulation
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:18 PM
but i dont see how i can stop atm
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Senator Braucht von Stein 26-Jun-20 08:19 PM
I will try to get a fascist to join
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:19 PM
Also I'd just like to say I'm vry impressed with Character for her performance here
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 08:19 PM
me?
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Bucksin6 26-Jun-20 08:19 PM
ye i could make kt super auth
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:19 PM
Yeah
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:19 PM
im gonna make a nationalist party
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 08:19 PM
thanks?
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:19 PM
for expansion and greater patrian independence
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 26-Jun-20 08:19 PM
Nationalist Party? 😳
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Senator Braucht von Stein 26-Jun-20 08:19 PM
I will bring an aberration by the way
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 08:20 PM
bruh we have a whole nationalist coalition already
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Bucksin6 26-Jun-20 08:20 PM
Christian ethnostate?
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 26-Jun-20 08:20 PM
I will try to get a fascist to join
@Senator Braucht von Stein Please no unironic fash
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:20 PM
You were quite rational the whole way and brought people in
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 08:20 PM
thanks
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SunoBeta 26-Jun-20 08:20 PM
11-6-0
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All Dogs are QUEENS 26-Jun-20 08:20 PM
And diffused people making irrational arguments a few times
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:20 PM
nationalist coalition is not active
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 08:20 PM
huh now it's 6 but says 5
weird
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:20 PM
moly is the only fascist i love
❤️
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Senator Braucht von Stein 26-Jun-20 08:20 PM
An Brazilian Neo-Nazi with a Bonner for Estonia and Uralic peoples who hates Germany and Russia at the same time and thinks that all opposition is communist, his biggest dream is marry a Conservative Estonian woman.
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 08:20 PM
nationalist coalition is not active
@Deleted User well you haven't given us many nationalist policy
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Bucksin6 26-Jun-20 08:21 PM
should i invite liberty hangout to join KT?
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 26-Jun-20 08:21 PM
NO
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Senator Braucht von Stein 26-Jun-20 08:21 PM
That's the guy I will get
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:21 PM
YES
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 26-Jun-20 08:21 PM
Sure
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:21 PM
please
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 08:21 PM
we were active when we were doing the continent conference
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:21 PM
people
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Senator Grover 26-Jun-20 08:21 PM
what about the terry party
aren't they authright
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:21 PM
eh
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character-confusion 26-Jun-20 08:21 PM
cause that was relavent
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:21 PM
more of a satire party
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AmongstShadows 26-Jun-20 08:21 PM
Don't know what's wrong with y'alls discord, but mine shows this
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:21 PM
the continent conference will happen at some point (edited)
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 26-Jun-20 08:21 PM
aren't they authright
@Senator Grover Christian Theocracy kind
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Senator Grover 26-Jun-20 08:22 PM
yeah
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:22 PM
if i make a christian theocracy it'd be more based than terry
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Bucksin6 26-Jun-20 08:22 PM
tery is unbased
i didnt even know they were theocratic
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 26-Jun-20 08:22 PM
^
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:22 PM
facts
Terry should just go into the CFP
change my mind
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Bucksin6 26-Jun-20 08:23 PM
Knights Templar was super based centrist Christian ethnostate
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Deleted User 26-Jun-20 08:24 PM
KT was based
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Bucksin6 26-Jun-20 08:24 PM
if they ever come back the should be super auth
i wanted them to be tbh, but it scared to many people away
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Deleted User 15-Jul-20 10:41 AM
Fellow senators
I wish to discuss this monarchy bill
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MemesOnPizza 15-Jul-20 10:41 AM
It already passed, though.
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 15-Jul-20 10:41 AM
@here
I have to
Sorry
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Jeb 15-Jul-20 10:41 AM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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SatiristicWretch 15-Jul-20 10:41 AM
(why)
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Jeb 15-Jul-20 10:42 AM
what u want
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character-confusion 15-Jul-20 10:42 AM
what?
again?
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SatiristicWretch 15-Jul-20 10:42 AM
( righthandwithgun)
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Jeb 15-Jul-20 10:42 AM
what monarchy bill?
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Deleted User 15-Jul-20 10:42 AM
We have 7 hours
But voting in favor of it is a mistake
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Jeb 15-Jul-20 10:42 AM
for what??
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Deleted User 15-Jul-20 10:42 AM
Hear me out
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MemesOnPizza 15-Jul-20 10:42 AM
"Alright..."
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Jeb 15-Jul-20 10:42 AM
is this about the tsunami bill or something
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character-confusion 15-Jul-20 10:42 AM
No.
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Deleted User 15-Jul-20 10:42 AM
We are at the brink of war with thuzland yes?
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 15-Jul-20 10:43 AM
for what??
@Jeb Removing the queen of England as head of state
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character-confusion 15-Jul-20 10:43 AM
Um
Are we?
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Deleted User 15-Jul-20 10:43 AM
Why should we cut ourselves off from an ally in these trying times
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character-confusion 15-Jul-20 10:43 AM
We aren't cutting ourselves off from an ally.
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Deleted User 15-Jul-20 10:43 AM
Just to make a foreign nation angry and pull aid from our disaster
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character-confusion 15-Jul-20 10:43 AM
We're simply removing a vestigial structure in our country.
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Deleted User 15-Jul-20 10:43 AM
I’m sure that the UK will be less inclined to help us now
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MemesOnPizza 15-Jul-20 10:44 AM
"Voting in favor of this bill could make some British imperialists mad, which is something good for LOGIC".
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Deleted User 15-Jul-20 10:44 AM
Isn’t removing vestigial institutions on compass thought
@SatiristicWretch (plz remove ur vote too)
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SatiristicWretch 15-Jul-20 10:44 AM
(o ye)
( #deleted-channel )
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Deleted User 15-Jul-20 10:45 AM
@MemesOnPizza am I right on this?
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character-confusion 15-Jul-20 10:45 AM
No.
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Deleted User 15-Jul-20 10:45 AM
I am
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character-confusion 15-Jul-20 10:45 AM
Why must we hold on to the structures of the past?
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Deleted User 15-Jul-20 10:45 AM
Removing vestigial institutions is ON COMPASS
Clearly
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character-confusion 15-Jul-20 10:45 AM
Keeping something just because it exists now.
LOGIC seeks an overhaul.
Something new.
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MemesOnPizza 15-Jul-20 10:46 AM
"Maybe we should give the Queen Orwellian-like powers".
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character-confusion 15-Jul-20 10:46 AM
Not monarchy.
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parm 15-Jul-20 10:46 AM
LOGIC wants change
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Deleted User 15-Jul-20 10:46 AM
Yes, but this “new” thing is on compass
Why are you telling me what that party wants
You are using them as a puppet
Which is clearly on compass
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MemesOnPizza 15-Jul-20 10:47 AM
"LOGIC right now is largely about accelerationism, so it seeks to destroy whatever systems are in place right now".
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Jeb 15-Jul-20 10:47 AM
(oh shit are we supposed to be in character here)
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 15-Jul-20 10:47 AM
(yes)
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MemesOnPizza 15-Jul-20 10:47 AM
(Da)
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Jeb 15-Jul-20 10:48 AM
(dam ok
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Deleted User 15-Jul-20 10:48 AM
Sure, but this system change is clearly beneficial to most in their view
Which you would be against
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character-confusion 15-Jul-20 10:48 AM
It doesn't matter much what LOGIC thinks.
Do you know why TNO is supporting this bill?
They've decided they want to install Senator Mucus as a monarch.
Is that what you want? Is that what you're voting for?
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MemesOnPizza 15-Jul-20 10:49 AM
"I was thinking about adding a holiday just for roasting the UK for increasing tensions with the UK".
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Jeb 15-Jul-20 10:49 AM
(is patrium a constituyional monarchy?)
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Deleted User 15-Jul-20 10:49 AM
I’m voting for keeping the monarch as a symbol
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character-confusion 15-Jul-20 10:49 AM
(no)
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Jeb 15-Jul-20 10:49 AM
(i thought it was senatorialist or something)
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character-confusion 15-Jul-20 10:49 AM
(we just technically recognize the british queen)
(like canada)
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Jeb 15-Jul-20 10:49 AM
(oh ok
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Deleted User 15-Jul-20 10:50 AM
We are cutting ties from Britain when we need them most
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parm 15-Jul-20 10:50 AM
We aren't cutting ties
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Deleted User 15-Jul-20 10:50 AM
We are
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MemesOnPizza 15-Jul-20 10:50 AM
"I support it because it might weaken political relations with the UK".
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parm 15-Jul-20 10:50 AM
we're removing the queen
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True King Frank (very edgy) 15-Jul-20 10:50 AM
it's like the only tie we have left lol
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Deleted User 15-Jul-20 10:50 AM
Doing this is detrimental to our relationship with the UK
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MemesOnPizza 15-Jul-20 10:50 AM
"It might offend some British imperialists, which is good".
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Deleted User 15-Jul-20 10:50 AM
We need foreign aid and allies
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parm 15-Jul-20 10:50 AM
it's like the only tie we have left lol
@True King Frank (very edgy) we're in the commonwealth
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Deleted User 15-Jul-20 10:51 AM
For relief and help against Thuzland
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parm 15-Jul-20 10:51 AM
Britain wouldn't be petty enough to deny aid to us because we abolished our monarchy
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character-confusion 15-Jul-20 10:51 AM
We're in the commonwealth, still.
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parm 15-Jul-20 10:51 AM
In fact, technically, it is our monarchy since we're independent from Britain
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MemesOnPizza 15-Jul-20 10:51 AM
"I think we should leave the Commonwealth, to be honest".
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 15-Jul-20 10:53 AM
"No we shouldn't."
"Besides, not all Commonwealth nations have her as head of state. Some even have different monarchs and houses"
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SunoBeta 15-Jul-20 11:17 AM
dogegun
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character-confusion 15-Jul-20 11:18 AM
righthandwithgun NLFBall handwithgun
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 15-Jul-20 11:19 AM
"Shouldn't there be a no gun rule after the Satiristic incident?"
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SatiristicWretch 15-Jul-20 11:19 AM
(lmao)
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 15-Jul-20 11:20 AM
(we'll call it the Satiristic incident from now on)
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character-confusion 15-Jul-20 11:20 AM
Oh please, senator.
Never go anywhere without a gun.
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parm 15-Jul-20 11:32 AM
^
I always carry some type of weapon
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someguyinshorts 15-Jul-20 11:35 AM
Same
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MemesOnPizza 15-Jul-20 04:10 PM
"Alright"
"I would like to discuss why the AFL-TNO-NLF-NML-[some more parties] bill is flawed".
"There is still one hour left".
"I hope to change your minds".
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Senator Mucus 15-Jul-20 08:23 PM
You left us hanging here
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Senator Alex 16-Jul-20 07:07 PM
How much is 50%?
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 17-Jul-20 11:27 PM
@deleted-role @Classical Liberal Party Gentle reminder to vote for the first option, the LibUnity option. We allow free market capitalism, while supporting libertarianism and transhumanism. The PNP is anti-libertarian and anti-science. https://discordapp.com/channels/705637850967834665/719285463692607558/733917614073708554
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Arksiane 17-Jul-20 11:28 PM
-warn @Dr. Kris Lawrence no pinging parties
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Unable to run the command: The Warn command is disabled on this server. Enable it in the control panel on the moderation page.
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Arksiane 17-Jul-20 11:28 PM
ok, so
still a warning ok?
please do not do it
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Bucksin6 17-Jul-20 11:29 PM
^
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 17-Jul-20 11:32 PM
Ok
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SunoBeta 18-Jul-20 08:51 AM
PES3_Cry
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opa bom dia 18-Jul-20 11:44 AM
Gentle reminder that the kropotkin people sentenced money dealers to death when they ran revolutionary spain
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Amaaroc 18-Jul-20 11:45 AM
The best gentle reminder
Also I didn’t know that and now I want to read about it
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SunoBeta 18-Jul-20 11:54 AM
Gentle reminder that the kropotkin people sentenced money dealers to death when they ran revolutionary spain
@opa bom dia I heard about that
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parm 18-Jul-20 12:42 PM
Gentle reminder that the kropotkin people sentenced money dealers to death when they ran revolutionary spain
@opa bom dia based
Also, I'm pretty sure that ain't true
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SunoBeta 18-Jul-20 12:50 PM
based not true
you saying based means you want it to happen
so therefore you are not a real lib
die
dogegun
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opa bom dia 18-Jul-20 12:50 PM
Like some neo nazis with the holocaust
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parm 18-Jul-20 12:52 PM
I mean
Can you show ANY proof of it
so therefore you are not a real lib
@SunoBeta capitalism is authoritarian
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SunoBeta 18-Jul-20 12:53 PM
how
how is it
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parm 18-Jul-20 12:53 PM
Workplace autocracy
The fact that you are for Ed to sell your labor to the bourgeoisie to live
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opa bom dia 18-Jul-20 12:54 PM
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SunoBeta 18-Jul-20 12:54 PM
The economic policies of the anarchist collectives were primarily operated according to the basic communist principle of "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need". In some places, money was entirely eliminated, to be replaced with vouchers and coupons distributed on the basis of needs rather than individual labor contributions. Bolloten writes of this process also:[8] In many communities money for internal use was abolished, because, in the opinion of Anarchists, "money and power are diabolical philtres, which turn a man into a wolf, into a rabid enemy, instead of into a brother." "Here in Fraga [a small town in Aragon], you can throw banknotes into the street," ran an article in a Libertarian paper, "and no one will take any notice. Rockefeller, if you were to come to Fraga with your entire bank account you would not be able to buy a cup of coffee. Money, your God and your servant, has been abolished here, and the people are happy." In those Libertarian communities where money was suppressed, wages were paid in coupons, the scale being determined by the size of the family. Locally produced goods, if abundant, such as bread, wine, and olive oil, were distributed freely, while other articles could be obtained by means of coupons at the communal depot. Surplus goods were exchanged with other Anarchist towns and villages, money being used only for transactions with those communities that had not adopted the new system.
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parm 18-Jul-20 12:54 PM
The nonconsensual enforcement of property norms
Etc
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opa bom dia 18-Jul-20 12:54 PM
Pretty good article
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SunoBeta 18-Jul-20 12:54 PM
The nonconsensual enforcement of property norms
@parm how is it
what?
"nonconsensual"
the right to own property is like
super lib
you're actually retarted ngl
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parm 18-Jul-20 12:55 PM
Again
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opa bom dia 18-Jul-20 12:55 PM
Bro I did not consent to you not letting me drive your car
you are like super selfish
And evil
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parm 18-Jul-20 12:55 PM
I never consented to people owning land
Or productive assets
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SunoBeta 18-Jul-20 12:55 PM
Fraser insightfully explains that once the CNT engineered the abolition of money (no one even tries to explain how the abolition of money could be voluntary), the peasants were helpless. A poor person with a little money has options; the Aragonese peasantry did not.
I never consented to people owning land
@parm I never consented to you taking my land
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parm 18-Jul-20 12:56 PM
I never consented to it being "your" land
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SunoBeta 18-Jul-20 12:56 PM
because I worked for it
or someone in the past did and gave it to me
voluntarily
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parm 18-Jul-20 12:56 PM
By what metric
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opa bom dia 18-Jul-20 12:56 PM
I never consented to it being your car
- The car thief
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SunoBeta 18-Jul-20 12:56 PM
By what metric
@parm what?
land is land
troll_brit
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parm 18-Jul-20 12:57 PM
But that land was once owned by all of Earth's people
Common ownership
But then someone, without the consent of the people claimed it as theirs
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SunoBeta 18-Jul-20 12:58 PM
what
marx is anprim gang?
based!
But that land was once owned by all of Earth's people
@parm then people decided we should respect property rights
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parm 18-Jul-20 12:59 PM
@parm then people decided we should respect property rights
@SunoBeta did we all?
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SunoBeta 18-Jul-20 12:59 PM
it's a natural progression in society
by that logic, democracy is bad
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opa bom dia 18-Jul-20 12:59 PM
Dude this log cabin of yours is made out of wood that was owned by all of Earth's peoples. You are literally stealing their wood
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SunoBeta 18-Jul-20 12:59 PM
"did we all agree on democracy"
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opa bom dia 18-Jul-20 12:59 PM
Nop
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parm 18-Jul-20 01:00 PM
Dude this log cabin of yours is made out of wood that was owned by all of Earth's peoples. You are literally stealing their wood
@opa bom dia yes
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Cyborg 18-Jul-20 01:00 PM
But Democracy is bad
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SunoBeta 18-Jul-20 01:00 PM
did we all agree to socialism?
nope!
therefore socialism bad
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Deleted User 18-Jul-20 01:00 PM
But Democracy is bad
@Cyborg cyborg why did you vote PIPrighthandwithgun
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SunoBeta 18-Jul-20 01:00 PM
that's such a dumb arguement
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parm 18-Jul-20 01:00 PM
Also, there's a fixed supply of land
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Cyborg 18-Jul-20 01:00 PM
Did we all agree on the party that was voted for in the political party?
no
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SunoBeta 18-Jul-20 01:00 PM
Also, there's a fixed supply of land
@parm land has 0 value according to LTV
so stop shitting yourself over it
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opa bom dia 18-Jul-20 01:01 PM
Hm
lol
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SunoBeta 18-Jul-20 01:02 PM
wait
is mega implying there's no difference between personal and private property?
based!
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opa bom dia 18-Jul-20 01:02 PM
Dude is literally making an argument on how you shouldn't appropriate scarce resources as he appropriates scarce resources
very based
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SunoBeta 18-Jul-20 01:02 PM
bigbrane
by that logic we need to be ultra conservative
btw
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opa bom dia 18-Jul-20 01:02 PM
difference between private and personal property has always been crap
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SunoBeta 18-Jul-20 01:03 PM
reject modernity, embrace tradition
@parm I have homework for you
solve the economic calculation problem troll_brit
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parm 18-Jul-20 01:04 PM
did we all agree to socialism?
@SunoBeta did we all> @parm land has 0 value according to LTV @SunoBeta I'm not a Marxist
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SunoBeta 18-Jul-20 01:04 PM
revisionist
pepelaugh
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parm 18-Jul-20 01:04 PM
I believe more in Proudhon
revisionist
@SunoBeta yes
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SunoBeta 18-Jul-20 01:06 PM
sex
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CarnelianBeatrice 19-Jul-20 08:08 PM
I'm seriously the only person who voted no on the constitution bill?
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Deleted User 19-Jul-20 08:09 PM
because it only allows for a constitutional convention
thats it
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CarnelianBeatrice 19-Jul-20 08:10 PM
You say that.
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Deleted User 19-Jul-20 08:10 PM
read it for yourself (edited)
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CarnelianBeatrice 19-Jul-20 08:10 PM
I did.
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Deleted User 19-Jul-20 08:10 PM
what do u think it does
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CarnelianBeatrice 19-Jul-20 08:11 PM
It allows for constitutional convention but I would like to know what amendments people have planned.
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Deleted User 19-Jul-20 08:11 PM
that would happen at the convention
idk what ppl want yet
Any convention can be convened with the approval of a motion with 2/3rds support from the Senate of Patrium, and details on how it will be passed will be drawn up in the first convention;
this prevents ppl from fucking with it
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CarnelianBeatrice 19-Jul-20 08:13 PM
That's the problem. I don't know what people want to amend into it yet.
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Deleted User 19-Jul-20 08:13 PM
ok
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 09:14 PM
so, the issue with the presidency bill is this
i do not trust anyone in patrium with the authority adams had
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character-confusion 20-Jul-20 09:14 PM
uh huh
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 09:14 PM
we need to reevaluate our systems in a c.c
to make sure we have a balance of power
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character-confusion 20-Jul-20 09:15 PM
well then, why don't you actually suggest something helpful?
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 09:15 PM
the point of the c.c is to have everyone debate out what will happen
that is helpful
but you just want to have this be quick and clean and not change our nation
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character-confusion 20-Jul-20 09:16 PM
that's what we just did
and we got a lot of input from the parties
not sure whether you bothered to read back over the debate you missed
but we don't need to completely overhaul the entire country's system at once
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 09:16 PM
a senate bill should have no authority over the executive
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character-confusion 20-Jul-20 09:16 PM
especially not right in the middle of such enormous instability
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 09:16 PM
thats why we need a constitution
the constitution will stabilize us
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character-confusion 20-Jul-20 09:17 PM
no, it won't
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 09:17 PM
how does the legislature get to design what the executive does
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character-confusion 20-Jul-20 09:17 PM
a government would stabalize us
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 09:17 PM
we could just overturn it
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character-confusion 20-Jul-20 09:17 PM
and once that happens, then we can look into changing it
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 09:17 PM
and cause a power crisis at that point, no
the executive cant have their power changed suddenly
thats a mess
and you talk of instability
we need a tabula rasa
Adams is irreplaceable
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AmongstShadows 20-Jul-20 09:19 PM
Adams is irreplaceable
@Deleted User Now that is an interesting idea...
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Amaaroc 20-Jul-20 09:19 PM
A tabula rasa would run risk of more instability We’d just take out what people had under their feet
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 09:19 PM
thats what your bil does senator
think about it
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Amaaroc 20-Jul-20 09:19 PM
I believe, however, there should be checks on the presidency
It’s not
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 09:19 PM
we set up this new executive
right (edited)
then we go and have a convention
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AmongstShadows 20-Jul-20 09:20 PM
What if Adams wasn't dead?
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 09:20 PM
then his power suddenly changed in his term
thats a mess
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Amaaroc 20-Jul-20 09:20 PM
And you want to tear down the entire executive and try to build it back up
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 09:20 PM
no, i just think we need to look back at our system and have it set in stone
we have no written constitution at this time
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character-confusion 20-Jul-20 09:20 PM
perhaps
i fail to see why you believe that comes before actually having a government
we have the chance to call a convention at any time
we have one chance to call for elections - now
and we need a government
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 09:21 PM
and then have the system change after that
no
thats unacceptable, we cant have a shifting floor during an election
how will the president know what to do
and how
Adams had more power vested in him than anyone
will they go to Adams' authority pre-cancer
or during
?
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character-confusion 20-Jul-20 09:22 PM
if you didn't hear, there were reforms build into the bill
and we planned to add more, based on what some of our fellow reasonable senators proposed during the debate
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 09:23 PM
then the executive is beholden to the legislature
we can have the power to change him at any time
that doesnt work well
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AmongstShadows 20-Jul-20 09:23 PM
It's almost like the president has no power in the first place
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 09:23 PM
if we craft a bill to limit the executive, then what stops us from doing it again and again
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AmongstShadows 20-Jul-20 09:23 PM
why do we need one again?
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 09:23 PM
then support the convention shadows
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Peytonic Master 20-Jul-20 09:23 PM
I will support any bill that bans curry
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 09:24 PM
your party is assuming we need a president again, we obvioulsy need to reevaluate
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Amaaroc 20-Jul-20 09:24 PM
I don’t trust Patrium in the hands of corrupt senators alone
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 09:24 PM
then why have the senate practically run the elections
why do we choose who can run for office
that makes no sense
we dont have that authority
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Amaaroc 20-Jul-20 09:25 PM
You literally didn’t read the bill did you
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 09:25 PM
i did
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AmongstShadows 20-Jul-20 09:25 PM
I swear we're backwards here lol. Wrong parties supporting the wrong thing
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 09:26 PM
I quote, Section 2, titled Eligibility, "All current and previous senators will be non-eligible for the position of President of Patrium."
why do we get to limit the executive like this
again i ask
where does the authority come from
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Peytonic Master 20-Jul-20 09:26 PM
I don't trust patrium in the hands of those that would eat curry. I have been farting all day irl.
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Amaaroc 20-Jul-20 09:26 PM
(Billy I don’t want a player to be the president, it’ll fuck the game up and I’ll probably quit because of peoples’ biases) (edited)
(That’s why) (edited)
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 09:27 PM
(ik, its just a point im going to beat at)
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Peytonic Master 20-Jul-20 09:27 PM
(I want a mipedian to be president)
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 09:27 PM
(because it really doesnt make sense from a policy perspective)
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Amaaroc 20-Jul-20 09:27 PM
(Well I don’t KNOW how to do it IC) (And I’m too tired to do it IC)
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Peytonic Master 20-Jul-20 09:27 PM
Peytonicmaster for president
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parm 20-Jul-20 09:27 PM
We need an executive council
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 09:28 PM
then have the AFL support the constitutional convention
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Amaaroc 20-Jul-20 09:28 PM
(I just don’t want some bitch to gain presidency and veto literally everything)
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parm 20-Jul-20 09:28 PM
Heck the Senate would do fine with executive power
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character-confusion 20-Jul-20 09:28 PM
Billy I made a whole argument froma a policy perspectice
Heck the Senate would do fine with executive power
@parm HAHA
no
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Peytonic Master 20-Jul-20 09:28 PM
(I promise if I am president I will approve every proposal no matter how small)
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parm 20-Jul-20 09:28 PM
It's not like there would be anyone better
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 09:29 PM
then dont have elections
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character-confusion 20-Jul-20 09:29 PM
this is the argument (ic) i made against senator presidents
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 09:29 PM
you are making my case
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parm 20-Jul-20 09:29 PM
I know
Vuty
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character-confusion 20-Jul-20 09:29 PM
(ooc amaaroc's right, it would be awful)
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 09:29 PM
then we just strip away the power of the president during a convention
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Amaaroc 20-Jul-20 09:29 PM
(Billy for fucks sake)
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 09:29 PM
that is absurd
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character-confusion 20-Jul-20 09:29 PM
read the argument, billy
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parm 20-Jul-20 09:29 PM
(council would be more fun tbh)
Again
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Amaaroc 20-Jul-20 09:29 PM
(Im not debating this shit if you’re gonna be hammering it IC) (I don’t know how to explain it IC but it stands as an argument for gameplay)
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 09:30 PM
(im hammering it IC)
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character-confusion 20-Jul-20 09:30 PM
(well we don't always get what we want IC becuase of OOC reasons, alright?)
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Amaaroc 20-Jul-20 09:30 PM
(You’re literally gonna let some random bitch here get into power because you can, for the sake of roleplay?)
(Instead of looking at the gameplay perspective)
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Peytonic Master 20-Jul-20 09:31 PM
(Can I be that random bitch?)
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 09:31 PM
(gameplay will be addressed at the c.c. too) (edited)
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parm 20-Jul-20 09:31 PM
I like the CC tbh
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Amaaroc 20-Jul-20 09:31 PM
(Bruh just) (I don’t want someone here to be president, it’ll be hell)
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character-confusion 20-Jul-20 09:31 PM
(jesus can you focus on somethiing other than your precious fucking constitution)
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 09:31 PM
(no)
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parm 20-Jul-20 09:31 PM
Convention is good
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character-confusion 20-Jul-20 09:31 PM
(and actually write the bill)
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Peytonic Master 20-Jul-20 09:31 PM
( @Amaaroc you should support me for president)
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Amaaroc 20-Jul-20 09:32 PM
(Can you please not do that)
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 09:32 PM
(if logic ever gets elected do we just loose?)
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Peytonic Master 20-Jul-20 09:32 PM
(No)
(we all win)
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 09:32 PM
(thered be no more need for a senate as utopia would be achieved)
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Amaaroc 20-Jul-20 09:32 PM
(I fuckin swear, man, can’t you just take gameplay into matter)
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Peytonic Master 20-Jul-20 09:33 PM
(How would I be biased?)
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Amaaroc 20-Jul-20 09:33 PM
(Can’t you understand)
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 09:33 PM
(i agree we need an npc as president ooc)
(if one at all)
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Peytonic Master 20-Jul-20 09:33 PM
(RP tops gameplay in my opinion)
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Amaaroc 20-Jul-20 09:33 PM
(Yeah then work it in IC instead of annoying me)
(It’s literal gameplay)
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 09:33 PM
(i called a convention to fix the issues at hand, ur bill is shit from an in game perspective)
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Peytonic Master 20-Jul-20 09:33 PM
(If you can't make role-play into good gameplay then that just means you are bad at both)
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 09:33 PM
(thats all i was dealing with)
(you made this all about ooc stuff)
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Amaaroc 20-Jul-20 09:34 PM
(Because it is about OOC stuff)
(This is GAMEPLAY)
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 09:34 PM
(im still opposed to the bill)
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Peytonic Master 20-Jul-20 09:34 PM
( @Amaaroc why are you so worried about a player president?)
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character-confusion 20-Jul-20 09:35 PM
(can we go talk in the NLF server please?)
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Amaaroc 20-Jul-20 09:35 PM
(Because it could fuck over an entire half of the player base)
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Peytonic Master 20-Jul-20 09:35 PM
(oh can I join that?) (How half)
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 09:35 PM
(no)
(this should be public)
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character-confusion 20-Jul-20 09:35 PM
(why? this is pointless)
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 09:36 PM
(is this an ooc debate or ic debate)
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character-confusion 20-Jul-20 09:36 PM
(BOTH)
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 09:36 PM
(if its ic it needs to be here)
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Peytonic Master 20-Jul-20 09:36 PM
(it's a policy debate)
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character-confusion 20-Jul-20 09:36 PM
(then let's go talk ooc)
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 09:36 PM
(ok)
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character-confusion 20-Jul-20 09:36 PM
(since we already are)
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Amaaroc 20-Jul-20 09:36 PM
(I swear to god this is giving me more and more reason to fuckin leave)
no 2
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Peytonic Master 20-Jul-20 09:36 PM
(it Should be here)
( @Amaaroc how would I piss off half the player base?)
( In addition I've looked into how some other political simulations are run and they have Prime ministers and presidents that work in gameplay just fine)
(hello could anyone answer my question?)
( @Amaaroc @character-confusion ?)
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Amaaroc 20-Jul-20 09:40 PM
(I SAID STOP)
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character-confusion 20-Jul-20 09:40 PM
(no)
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Peytonic Master 20-Jul-20 09:41 PM
(stop discussing policy? And sorry I upset you)
(This is some Hamiltonesque bullshit right here)
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Senator Alex 20-Jul-20 09:59 PM
(How do elections for president work here?@character-confusion )
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character-confusion 20-Jul-20 09:59 PM
(they don't. we've never had one)
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 20-Jul-20 09:59 PM
(None yet)
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Senator Alex 20-Jul-20 09:59 PM
(Lol)
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 20-Jul-20 09:59 PM
(The last president was a de facto dictator)
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Senator Alex 20-Jul-20 10:00 PM
(Well all of the server is just senators so it doesnt make sense that we call for a general election)
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character-confusion 20-Jul-20 10:00 PM
(adams was an NPC, the idea would be that the next president is too)
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Senator Alex 20-Jul-20 10:01 PM
(Well ok, but we do need to have a constitution and if we are going to make any changes they need to be done before any election)
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Peytonic Master 20-Jul-20 10:02 PM
(I think I should be the next president)
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Deleted User 20-Jul-20 10:03 PM
(i agree with Sen. Alex)
(pres should still be npc but we need a cc for changed)
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Peytonic Master 23-Jul-20 08:15 PM
I would love to hear feedback on my bill
@character-confusion how is it not?
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 23-Jul-20 08:20 PM
Tell me how banning curry can stop a war and patch a power vacuum
Give me a reason
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Peytonic Master 23-Jul-20 08:20 PM
Simple
By reducing our greenhouse gases we become more well liked in the eyes of liberal democracies, specially European ones
Then because of improved relationships we can open trade
They will in an act of protecting their interests pressure other nations not to go to war with us
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 23-Jul-20 08:25 PM
So why not ban industrial farming, force a carbon tax on factories, encourage renewables, etc. Those will be more effective against climate change than banning FUCKING CURRY
I only strongly support the last one but ok
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Peytonic Master 23-Jul-20 08:26 PM
Then write your own bill to add on to mine
Or perhaps we can work on an amendment to my bill
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 23-Jul-20 08:29 PM
You know what, why do I even care to debate a LOGIC member. Y'all are crazy anyways
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character-confusion 23-Jul-20 08:30 PM
lmao
that was your first mistake
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 23-Jul-20 08:30 PM
Yea
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minecraf sbeve 23-Jul-20 09:05 PM
People could die from milk allergy anytime, should we ban milk and dairies too?
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 23-Jul-20 09:06 PM
And peanut
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SatiristicWretch 23-Jul-20 09:06 PM
Correlation
Not causation
Bacteria causes death
not curry
Improve hygiene trollcake
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 23-Jul-20 09:07 PM
^
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Peytonic Master 23-Jul-20 09:07 PM
Mods are playing?
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SatiristicWretch 23-Jul-20 09:07 PM
Alos
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 23-Jul-20 09:07 PM
Definitely
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SatiristicWretch 23-Jul-20 09:07 PM
ban chips
if you ban curry
trollcake
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 23-Jul-20 09:07 PM
Mods are playing?
@Peytonic Master Yes, as Ozy's Estate
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Peytonic Master 23-Jul-20 09:07 PM
If another Senator suggests it then sure
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SatiristicWretch 23-Jul-20 09:07 PM
@Peytonic Master Yes, as Ozy's Estate
@Dr. Kris Lawrence no, as adams legacy
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Peytonic Master 23-Jul-20 09:08 PM
I might add an amendment
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SatiristicWretch 23-Jul-20 09:08 PM
Ozys estate is adams estate rebranded
ie secret police
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 23-Jul-20 09:08 PM
Ok
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Peytonic Master 23-Jul-20 09:13 PM
In addition curry is a natural laxative
At the very least it should be banned from the military
Curry could cause our military to literally be caught with their pants down
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 23-Jul-20 09:17 PM
Yes lets ban curry
Other food works just fine
If not healthier
@Peytonic Master ban junk food too
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Peytonic Master 30-Jul-20 01:59 PM
Curry sucks and so do the people that eat it
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character-confusion 07-Aug-20 10:12 AM
Proposal to the Patrian Muslim Community [description] Refugee Status for Jaziran Muslims Measures for Potential Civil Unrest
ping me if anyone wants to work on it
if not i shall begin to aggressively ping anyone who said they would (edited)
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StormTigrex 07-Aug-20 10:20 AM
@character-confusion anyways who creates the parties?
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character-confusion 07-Aug-20 10:20 AM
users
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StormTigrex 07-Aug-20 10:20 AM
can I make one
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character-confusion 07-Aug-20 10:20 AM
you can make your own if you want
ye
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StormTigrex 07-Aug-20 10:20 AM
cool
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character-confusion 07-Aug-20 10:20 AM
just ping a mod when you're done
and uh
find a second member within 3 days
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StormTigrex 07-Aug-20 10:20 AM
huh
@Trickle come here a sec
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character-confusion 07-Aug-20 10:21 AM
lmao
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StormTigrex 07-Aug-20 10:21 AM
he's my wingman dontchaknow
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Trickle 07-Aug-20 12:49 PM
@StormTigrex yo
yeah i join whatever the fuck he concocts
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StormTigrex 07-Aug-20 12:49 PM
troll
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StormTigrex 07-Aug-20 01:07 PM
@Trickle let's make the PO-IYTAI Alliance (edited)
the Pretty Obvious If You Think About It Alliance
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Trickle 07-Aug-20 01:09 PM
mhm
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StormTigrex 07-Aug-20 01:09 PM
theoretically apolitical, practically radcent
accelerationist praxis
we just wanna get it done already so we can stop talking about it
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buyfallout76 07-Aug-20 04:41 PM
What is the policy
And why are we debating
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StormTigrex 07-Aug-20 06:12 PM
huh? policy?
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 07-Aug-20 06:33 PM
dude
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Peytonic Master 13-Aug-20 08:34 PM
Should we censor this Senator?
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Amaaroc 13-Aug-20 08:35 PM
It’s OOC Stop grasping at it
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character-confusion 13-Aug-20 08:35 PM
lmao bruh let it go
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Opossumod 13-Aug-20 08:36 PM
They apologized and got an official warning
the situation is over
stop bringing it up
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parm 14-Aug-20 12:32 PM
Lololol
🍿
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:32 PM
Education reform
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:32 PM
stem, the humanities, and practicalities
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:32 PM
Arts should complement practical education
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:32 PM
1/3 each up till the last 3 years of school, where you pick one each
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:32 PM
Yet there is no disagreement they should be taught
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 10:33 PM
We need to create a consistent culture, a basis for a functional life, and a good base for technological development
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:33 PM
We don’t need practical education
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:33 PM
why
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:33 PM
STEM and the Humanities all the way
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:33 PM
What if they aren’t?
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:33 PM
why
@cbass no one needs to learn how to farm, or use a tractor anymore
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:33 PM
why not?
do we not need food?
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:33 PM
What if technology never reaches post scarcity?
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:33 PM
do you plan to totally import food?
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:34 PM
Atleast in our lifetimes
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:34 PM
what if the major powers turn on us?
then what?
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:34 PM
And how would that effect our rural communities?
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 10:34 PM
But they do need to know how to balance a checkbook, what laws govern them, and how to pay taxes or vote
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:34 PM
Sure
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:34 PM
change a tire
change oil
etc etc
do you guys want to start writing
a bill
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:35 PM
Social sciences especially should be given the spotlight
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:36 PM
that should be up to the student
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:36 PM
They are needed in a modern democratic society
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AmongstShadows 18-Aug-20 10:36 PM
Patrian Education Program Program’s Goal: The goal of this program is to reform Patrium’s current education system. At present, schooling is only required and offered publicly for free up to age 12. (For the purposes of this document, we will refer to this as lower education....
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 10:36 PM
Thank you
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:36 PM
History, politics, philosophy, etc
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:36 PM
How about equal funding for arts, sciences, and practical skills, across all public schools, until college
With college being for specialization
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 10:36 PM
I think we should expand schooling past 12.
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:37 PM
History, politics, philosophy, etc, are the most important in my opinion
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:37 PM
We can have public college
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 10:37 PM
To focus more on being a good citizen and learning stem
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:37 PM
I think we should expand schooling past 12.
@pyromirp definitely
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:37 PM
equal funding for each until 10th grade, then the student gets to pick which they want to prioritise for 11th and 12th, and then for college they get to be more specific in choosing and major and such
also extending past grade 12 would be good
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:37 PM
Past 12, it should specialize
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:37 PM
how far?
14? 16?
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:38 PM
At tenth is a bit early
11th?
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:38 PM
11th would be alright imo
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AmongstShadows 18-Aug-20 10:38 PM
That bill was passed. It goes up to grade 12... I think. Let me read the thing
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:38 PM
Good compromise?
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:38 PM
yes
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:38 PM
Ight
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:38 PM
Yeah
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:38 PM
I settle for 11
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:38 PM
abolition of private schools?
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:38 PM
I’m for whatever gets the social sciences more funding
abolition of private schools?
@cbass no
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:38 PM
I think private schools should be allowed
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 18-Aug-20 10:38 PM
@cbass yes
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:39 PM
Less we have to pay for
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:39 PM
Private schools, while they can be elitist, can help kids who can’t get the education they need in the biblical school system
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:39 PM
Not like they stop paying taxes when they go to one
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:39 PM
2E kids for example
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 18-Aug-20 10:39 PM
But we can't control what they learn as easily
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:39 PM
we kinda can
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:39 PM
We can still set national curriculum
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 18-Aug-20 10:39 PM
What if they are fed misinformation?
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:39 PM
Trust me when I say we should keep them
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:39 PM
current language is "They must still meet national standards of required classes and standardized testing. Consistent failure to meet testing standards will result in further action by the Department of Education to assure standards are met."
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AmongstShadows 18-Aug-20 10:39 PM
Yea we passed the bill above making middle level education mandatory. So up to age 18
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:40 PM
Outside of a totalitarian standpoint, why should we control it?
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:40 PM
Standards
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:40 PM
we should specify consequences if standards aren't met
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:40 PM
I guess
I am (surprisingly) okay with private schools
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:40 PM
more incentive to,,,,,,meet them
okay so what do we have so far
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:41 PM
They can cater to students who public schools cannot
Deal with well
(Source, me)
(I am the example here)
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:41 PM
that's true, i suppose
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:42 PM
2e kids for one
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:42 PM
my problem would have to do with religious schooling
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:42 PM
Agreed
Get rid of that shit
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:42 PM
Allow public school, Enforce standards, Up till eleventh grade, all schooling standardized nation wide Equal funding for stem, humanities, and practical skills
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:42 PM
No religeos schools
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:42 PM
The Thuzi may especially disapprove of that
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:42 PM
@Moderator can we propose a bill more than one time?
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 18-Aug-20 10:43 PM
I think 1/6 humanities 1/6 practicality then the rest to STEM
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:43 PM
no
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character-confusion 18-Aug-20 10:43 PM
sorry?
what do you mean?
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Deleted User 18-Aug-20 10:43 PM
yeah
you can
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:43 PM
I think 1/6 humanities 1/6 practicality then the rest to STEM
@Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) hell no
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:43 PM
I say allow them, but if anything, make them a different system
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 18-Aug-20 10:43 PM
Why
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:43 PM
like if a bill gets voted down, can we edit and then re propose
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 10:43 PM
How about 2/6 humanities
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:43 PM
Y’all are underestimating the humanities
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:43 PM
no
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 10:43 PM
1/6 practical, 4/6 stem
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:43 PM
the humanities are a necessity
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:43 PM
Social sciences are real damn important
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:43 PM
1/3 each (edited)
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:43 PM
Equal equal equal is only fair
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character-confusion 18-Aug-20 10:43 PM
like if a bill gets voted down, can we edit and then re propose
@cbass yes you can
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:43 PM
Equal gives too much to practical skills
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:44 PM
thanks mods
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:44 PM
Too much?
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 18-Aug-20 10:44 PM
I don't think you need to learn so many practical skills
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 10:44 PM
Let’s decrease practical skills to 1/6
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:44 PM
^^
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:44 PM
How will the worker gain power without knowing how to work?
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 18-Aug-20 10:44 PM
There is only so much useful information you can teach
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 10:44 PM
And have 3/6 stem 2/6 humanities?
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:44 PM
^
no pyro
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:44 PM
I won’t sign on if practical is 1/6th
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:44 PM
neither will i
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:44 PM
How about 3/8 humanities, 3/8 STEM, and 2/8 practicals?
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:44 PM
id be okay with that
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:45 PM
Maybe
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 10:45 PM
I’m fine with that
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:45 PM
But
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:45 PM
its a little low but i can tolerate
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:45 PM
Any objections?
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tuntunmaasi 18-Aug-20 10:45 PM
Humanities is not as important as stem
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:45 PM
If we go till 12 th grade
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:45 PM
Humanities is not as important as stem
@tuntunmaasi wrong
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 18-Aug-20 10:45 PM
Not enough stem but I can manage
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:45 PM
let's go up to 14th grade for high school
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:45 PM
Social sciences are the most important part of it
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 10:45 PM
Not if we put cognitive sciences in the humanities @tuntunmaasi
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:45 PM
There in the humanities
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:45 PM
and the last 2 years could be specialized
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 18-Aug-20 10:45 PM
Stem is way more important
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:46 PM
No it isn’t
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:46 PM
its not
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:46 PM
I say, up to twelfth grade, 3/8, 3/8, 2/8
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:46 PM
Social sciences>STEM
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 10:46 PM
Cognitive science allows us to create neural links and better propaganda
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:46 PM
Deal?
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 18-Aug-20 10:46 PM
Science is the backbone of progress
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:46 PM
i agree with bresikel
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:46 PM
Social sciences are still sciences
Deal
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 18-Aug-20 10:46 PM
Most science is STEM though
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tuntunmaasi 18-Aug-20 10:46 PM
social sciences are not a science
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:46 PM
But social sciences are more important sciences
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tuntunmaasi 18-Aug-20 10:47 PM
science is exact by definition
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:47 PM
They’re a type of science
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 18-Aug-20 10:47 PM
Why do you like social science so much?
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tuntunmaasi 18-Aug-20 10:47 PM
social science is a people dependent science
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:47 PM
science is exact by definition
@tuntunmaasi have you looked at physics?
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:47 PM
Just a not well understood kind
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:47 PM
That shit ain’t exact
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:47 PM
More an issue of quality then type
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tuntunmaasi 18-Aug-20 10:47 PM
@Sen. Empharius you are talking about quantum physics?
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:47 PM
Social sciences are very important
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tuntunmaasi 18-Aug-20 10:48 PM
not really though
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 18-Aug-20 10:48 PM
@Sen. Empharius why?
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:48 PM
we dont all have to agree with 3/8 3/8 2/8
just enough to get the bill to the floor
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AmongstShadows 18-Aug-20 10:48 PM
Guys... you are calling for things we already have
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 10:48 PM
Social sciences are a science, but they are an incomplete science
Which is why we need to do more research to make them like the hard sciences
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:48 PM
^^*
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 10:48 PM
True shadows.
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AmongstShadows 18-Aug-20 10:48 PM
#senate-records
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 10:48 PM
Which is why we should expand it and focus on revisions
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:48 PM
i agree with pyro
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tuntunmaasi 18-Aug-20 10:49 PM
how about students are taught all subjects at a basic level till their 10th grade after which they can pick and choose whatever subjects they want to learn
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:49 PM
Imagine if we could get sociology down like we have chemistry
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:49 PM
May I suggest that practical courses include farming and homesteading skills?
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 10:49 PM
Our propaganda could be beyond perfect
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:49 PM
@tuntunmaasi we already agreed on 12th
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 10:49 PM
How about farming is an elective all schools must offer Bres
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 18-Aug-20 10:49 PM
Almost nobody needs to know how to farm
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:49 PM
Farming can be an elective
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:49 PM
we are not in a state of post-scarcity
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:49 PM
Like theatre
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 18-Aug-20 10:49 PM
People who do already live somewhere where their parents would teach them
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Peytonic Master 18-Aug-20 10:49 PM
(I support public schools because they indoctrinate people to support the state)
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:50 PM
i think one should at minimum, know the smallest basics (edited)
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:50 PM
There may come a time when people need to farm on their own
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:50 PM
The basics would be covered in biology no?
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:50 PM
The basics should be taught
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 10:50 PM
How about they take one year of survival
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:50 PM
survival would be good
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 10:50 PM
Survival has a unit on basic farming and another on basic hunter gathering
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:50 PM
in the case of invasion
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:50 PM
Survival =/= farming but I like the idea
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:50 PM
or apocalypse or something
there should be self-defense in the practicality portion
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:51 PM
Should military training be included?
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 18-Aug-20 10:51 PM
Survival is kinda based
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:51 PM
Sure, why not
there should be self-defense in the practicality portion
@cbass definitely
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 18-Aug-20 10:51 PM
@Senator Boli yes
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:51 PM
And how to use a gin safely
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:51 PM
yeah gun safety
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:51 PM
*gun
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:51 PM
It’d prob be it’s own category for funding then
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:51 PM
and proper evasive maneuvers, just in the case of invasion
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:51 PM
Yes, gun safety very good
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:51 PM
It can fit into practical
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:51 PM
how to avoid enemy army
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:52 PM
It can fit into practical
@Sen. Empharius our budget is already slim
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:52 PM
let's increase the overall education budget
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:52 PM
I assumed this would be in practical from the beginning
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 18-Aug-20 10:52 PM
It's not very hard to know how to not hurt yourself with a gun
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 10:52 PM
Which is why we legislate what education is nessesary
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:52 PM
let's increase the overall education budget
@cbass let’s double it
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:52 PM
triple
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:52 PM
Double?
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:52 PM
let's triple it
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 10:52 PM
We cut what doesn’t give us benefits
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:52 PM
Triple
!
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:52 PM
and double the taxes on private shools
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:52 PM
That’s a bit much
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 18-Aug-20 10:52 PM
100 times /s
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 10:53 PM
How about this
We triple it
But
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AmongstShadows 18-Aug-20 10:53 PM
I'd be cautious with upping spending seeing as a war just ended. We kind of need money for rebuilding
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 10:53 PM
One third of the budget is reserved for the top ten percent of students
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:53 PM
too much
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:53 PM
I can support doubling but tripling is outrageous
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 10:53 PM
Meaning our best and brightest get the best resources
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:53 PM
That’s too much reserved
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 10:53 PM
Hmm then just doubled
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:53 PM
Fine
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:53 PM
Okay
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:54 PM
Pyro, could you write it?
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:54 PM
double budget
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:54 PM
Your good at that sort of thing
@pyromirp
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:54 PM
And with doubled, the practical field could include militia training
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:54 PM
Ooh
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:54 PM
how do we feel about increasing taxes on private shools
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:54 PM
Me likee
how do we feel about increasing taxes on private shools
@cbass I’m for it
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:55 PM
and boost even more on religious schools
as an incentive to get rid of them
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:55 PM
Yeah
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:55 PM
and boost even more on religious schools
@cbass eh
Nah
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 18-Aug-20 10:55 PM
Ban religious schools
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:55 PM
They’ll just rebrand
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:55 PM
and we can tax that too (edited)
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:55 PM
And lie
The Thuzi would be pissed
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 10:55 PM
I can help write it Tommorow
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:55 PM
we can deal with that later
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:56 PM
Just tax public more overall
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 18-Aug-20 10:56 PM
They just hurt the education of children
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:56 PM
Thanks pyro
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 18-Aug-20 10:56 PM
So it would be better to just ban religious schools
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:56 PM
Give it a snazzy name
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 18-Aug-20 10:56 PM
For the children
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:56 PM
that's too extreme too quickly
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:56 PM
Something that pops
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AmongstShadows 18-Aug-20 10:57 PM
Lmao. It's so simple. Just tax more. What could go wrong? poggers
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:57 PM
Lmao. It's so simple. Just tax more. What could go wrong? poggers
@AmongstShadows this but unironically
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:57 PM
^
thats the idea behind boosting taxes
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:57 PM
How about this, same taxes for religious schools, but don’t make them follow the same systems as public, no mixed sports or scholarships
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:57 PM
No
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:57 PM
no extra funding for religious schools, if theyre even getting any
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:57 PM
Make them follow the same rules as all the other schools
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:58 PM
^
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:58 PM
If they follow the same rules, they should be taxed the same
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 18-Aug-20 10:58 PM
Force them to not indoctrinate children
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:58 PM
^^^^
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 18-Aug-20 10:58 PM
But I think that is the point of most religious schools
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:59 PM
Yeah
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AmongstShadows 18-Aug-20 10:59 PM
Yea be prepared to get ousted real quick. Just want to start a civil war. "Banning religious schools" when we just gained Thuzi citizens that are very religious, "increasing taxes" when our people can barely afford things as it is
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 18-Aug-20 10:59 PM
So I still support outright banning them
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:59 PM
Tfw TNO is against indoctrination
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:59 PM
yeah no we shouldnt ban them
not yet at least
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:59 PM
We can’t ban them yet
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:59 PM
banning them should be a long term goal
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:59 PM
Emphasis on yet
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 18-Aug-20 10:59 PM
Re education first
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 10:59 PM
yet?
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 10:59 PM
Yeah
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cbass 18-Aug-20 10:59 PM
yet
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 18-Aug-20 11:00 PM
Then banning religious schools
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:00 PM
yet
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 18-Aug-20 11:00 PM
So nobody riots
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Macattackk 18-Aug-20 11:00 PM
Same taxes let them do what they want unless its indoctrination for violence in society
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 11:00 PM
The AFP is secular, but we aren’t anti theists
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:00 PM
Agreed
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 18-Aug-20 11:00 PM
yet :D
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AmongstShadows 18-Aug-20 11:00 PM
You could do something useful like go out to our war torn cities and provide aid, but I guess that's just me (edited)
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 11:00 PM
Make your religious school tax thing a different bill
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:00 PM
That’ll happen when we do reconstruction
We are specifically told not to do that by the mods
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AmongstShadows 18-Aug-20 11:01 PM
I meant you personally go and help. Put the pen down
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 18-Aug-20 11:01 PM
I sleep now
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 11:01 PM
And what about for the next disaster senator shadows?
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Senator Boli 18-Aug-20 11:01 PM
Yeah, let’s finish tomorrow
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 11:02 PM
Give a man a fish he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, he eats for life.
We are training the next generation to not make our mistakes, and to make a better world.
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:02 PM
Give a man a fire, he’s warm for a day, set a man on fire, he’s warm for the rest of his life
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 11:02 PM
We can only do so much, so let’s ensure a better future.
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:02 PM
^^^^^
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 11:02 PM
Good point
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:02 PM
i agree with pyro
we can finish tomorrow
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:03 PM
Yeah
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:03 PM
what time?
@pyromirp @Senator Boli
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:03 PM
Whenever we’re awake
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 18-Aug-20 11:03 PM
Wait what didn't know the chat was here
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:03 PM
Oh
You missed it
Sorry
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:04 PM
rip
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 18-Aug-20 11:04 PM
Well, I could read over the history.
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:04 PM
we'll discuss more tomorrow
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AmongstShadows 18-Aug-20 11:04 PM
Cool. While you guys sit in your palaces talking, I'm going to do something useful
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 18-Aug-20 11:04 PM
Or just contribute tomorrow to the actual bill writing :P
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:04 PM
yeah lmfaoo
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:04 PM
“We’re working, not larping”
“Go play hero if you must, but we’re actually fixing things”
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AmongstShadows 18-Aug-20 11:05 PM
(bruh this whole server is larping)
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:05 PM
(I was saying that in character)
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AmongstShadows 18-Aug-20 11:05 PM
(oh lol)
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:05 PM
"we are working to help the future of patrium"
(lmfaoo)
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AmongstShadows 18-Aug-20 11:06 PM
temporary salary cuts for senators to provide relief
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:07 PM
I’m for that
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 11:08 PM
Temporary bonuses for senators who make a real difference to relief efforts.
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:08 PM
no pyro
also i think permanent salary cuts would be better
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 18-Aug-20 11:09 PM
I used to support that but I heard Salary cuts makes politicians more likely to accept bribes.
And then only wealthy people can be politicians.
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:10 PM
It’s only a temporary cut though
To help rebuild
And plus, it’s good PR
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:11 PM
i guess a temp cut would be okay
maybe voluntary permanent cuts?
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 11:11 PM
Permenant cuts do cause problems with corruption.
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 18-Aug-20 11:11 PM
Hmm actually
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 11:12 PM
If your having trouble paying student debts on your salary. Your gonna be tempted to take some money from that nice oil exec
Plus politicians have to keep two residences. One in the capital and one in their home district.
Raising the cost of living.
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:12 PM
voluntary ones though
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 18-Aug-20 11:12 PM
I'll do a voluntary pay cut anyways since I can sustain myself already
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:12 PM
I’ll take one, and cut down in my drinking
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:13 PM
(i need to make a character sheet still tbh) (edited)
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:13 PM
That should offset the cost
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Peytonic Master 18-Aug-20 11:13 PM
Just a heads up
We are a third world country
That just fought a war
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 11:13 PM
So your saying we should take all the money for ourselves?
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AmongstShadows 18-Aug-20 11:13 PM
(I haven't made a character sheet either. Not sure how necessary they are)
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 11:14 PM
(I should make one as well.)
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:14 PM
we need to find a way to pull in more revenue
taxes on the people arent a good idea
that could lead to too much unrest
what kind of resources do we have?
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:15 PM
We jump on the belt and road initiative
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:15 PM
we could try to get UN funding
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 11:15 PM
Selling ourselves to China?
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Peytonic Master 18-Aug-20 11:15 PM
Good idea on in finding (edited)
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 11:15 PM
Hmmm
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:15 PM
or aid from a great power
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:15 PM
The world bank gives shit loans though
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 11:15 PM
Ok, what if we get our internet from China
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:15 PM
no
too much restraint
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 11:15 PM
And then use that to goad the US into giving us military supplies
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Peytonic Master 18-Aug-20 11:15 PM
Except un investigating us for human rights violations
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:15 PM
And the IMF is strait up a negative
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:16 PM
we could always just not violate human rights
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:16 PM
I like this plan
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 11:16 PM
If we pit world powers against eachother we can get them to keep giving us more and more stuff
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:16 PM
I also like this plan
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:16 PM
pyro is right
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 11:16 PM
Like China and Yugoslavia did during the Cold War
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Peytonic Master 18-Aug-20 11:16 PM
They found out some Senators supported motions to target civilians with carpet bombings and such
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:16 PM
Pyro is always right
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Peytonic Master 18-Aug-20 11:16 PM
Not a good look
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:16 PM
I have learned this over time
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:16 PM
pyro isnt always right
but he is quite often
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Peytonic Master 18-Aug-20 11:16 PM
Careful with support
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:17 PM
at least tonight
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 11:17 PM
Then let’s disavow those senators
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:17 PM
also supporting something isnt the same as actually doing it
if we just ostracize them
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Peytonic Master 18-Aug-20 11:17 PM
Hassan got Iran and American to work together for patrium but charger for treason
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 11:17 PM
And replace them with their good “twins”
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:17 PM
lets leave hassan out
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 11:17 PM
Why did Hassan do that?
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:17 PM
for a few
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 11:17 PM
Ok
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:17 PM
hes not relevant right now
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Peytonic Master 18-Aug-20 11:18 PM
(to help our nation)
(what's wrong with more allies?)
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 11:18 PM
Nothing
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:18 PM
we should try to pit china and the united states against each other
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:18 PM
Why can’t we just kick out the senators who wanted to do human rights abuses?
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 11:18 PM
Now we know the US is good for military supplies
And China is good for tech and infrastructure
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:18 PM
I’m with Pyro
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 11:18 PM
If we could also drag Germany in?
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:19 PM
true
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 11:19 PM
Germany and Japan for infrastructure
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:19 PM
how do we achieve that
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 11:19 PM
The USA for military, and China for internet infrastructure. Let’s get 5g
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:19 PM
We can get stuff from both of them
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 11:19 PM
Well Japan and the US hate China
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:19 PM
how
how do we get them to give it to us
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 11:19 PM
We start courting favor with China but also enter talks with the US
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:19 PM
China has 5g in some areas already
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 11:20 PM
Start hinting about military bases
They start one upping eachother in an attempt to get a military base on our land
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:20 PM
It’s a good plan
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:20 PM
thats a good idea
we could use india for manpower
potentially
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 11:20 PM
Then we have 5g and WMDs
Yeah
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:21 PM
problem: attempting legislation
we would have to court the support of a majority in the senate
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:21 PM
Hmm
It’s not impossible
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:21 PM
itll be hard though
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:22 PM
If we get a party head on our side the party will usually follow
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:22 PM
PIP might be a good bet
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:22 PM
And so will their allies
TNO will definitely be with us
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:22 PM
because its for the good of the nation
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:22 PM
We should try for both the PIP and NLF
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:22 PM
agreed
nlf has been kind of hostile to our existing plans though (edited)
im in the discord for the PIP
so you can focus on the NLF
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 11:23 PM
What does the NLF like?
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:23 PM
Okay
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:23 PM
theyre ancom
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:23 PM
NLF is authcom
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:23 PM
oh
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:23 PM
They are close with TNO
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:23 PM
who is the party head
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 11:23 PM
And are they the pro China type or the anti China type?
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:23 PM
So if we get TNO in our side, that’ll help sway them
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:24 PM
pyro is in support
and i imagine the TNO head would be too
which might help to sway NLF
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 11:24 PM
And i think the party will agree. As long as we get our tech boosts and military gear to ensure compliance we should be happy.
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:24 PM
@someguyinshorts
Is the party head
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:24 PM
okay
can you try to get them in? (edited)
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:25 PM
I’ll talk to him, but I’ll need TNO on my side first
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:25 PM
alright
pyro said that he thinks that the TNO will follow his lead
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AmongstShadows 18-Aug-20 11:25 PM
I'm the pro Patrium type
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:25 PM
would you be willing to vouch for our plan to the rest of your party
our goal is to gain funding
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AmongstShadows 18-Aug-20 11:26 PM
What plan?
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:26 PM
@Sen. Empharius wanna explain?
okay then no
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:27 PM
What plan?
@AmongstShadows we play China and the USA against eachother
Curry favor with them both
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:27 PM
convince them we will allow a military base with the other
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:27 PM
They’ll both give us stuff in exangenfor not working with the other one
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:27 PM
and maybe involve japan, germany, and india
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:27 PM
If we can
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 11:28 PM
This way we can get resources to recover from the war
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:28 PM
^^^
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AmongstShadows 18-Aug-20 11:28 PM
lol. I'll bring it up to my party
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:28 PM
thank you
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:28 PM
Thanks
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 11:28 PM
Thank you comrade
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:28 PM
TNO will probobly suport it
So there’s that
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AmongstShadows 18-Aug-20 11:28 PM
de nada camarada
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:29 PM
that should be enough signatures to get it to the floor
ultra should we start writing?
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:29 PM
Pyro is the bill writer between me and him
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:29 PM
hes already writing the education bill
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:29 PM
@pyromirp you okay with writing this too?
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:30 PM
if not, me or ultra can probably write it
or at least id be willing
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 11:31 PM
I can help in the morning
I’m about to fall asleep rn
But I’d prefer if you took the primary writing and i just help.
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:31 PM
alright
i can do that
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:31 PM
Thanks
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:31 PM
ill write in the morning
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:32 PM
I’ll try and be a hype man in #roleplay-general
When something starts up there
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pyromirp 18-Aug-20 11:32 PM
Thanks
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:32 PM
ill try to pitch to the PIP
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Sen. Empharius 18-Aug-20 11:32 PM
Once people start talking over there I’ll bring it up
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cbass 18-Aug-20 11:33 PM
good choice
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austro-hungarian SFR 19-Aug-20 08:55 AM
Anti war/military?
✅ 3
❌ 6
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austro-hungarian SFR 19-Aug-20 09:50 AM
Vote ends in 3 days
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cbass 19-Aug-20 10:30 AM
@pyromirp have you started writing the education bill?
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cbass 19-Aug-20 12:44 PM
anyone interested in helping me get being transgender legal?
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Sen. Empharius 19-Aug-20 12:45 PM
I am
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cbass 19-Aug-20 12:46 PM
i think the AFL is already writing
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Sen. Empharius 19-Aug-20 12:48 PM
nice
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 19-Aug-20 12:48 PM
Epic
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Sen. Empharius 19-Aug-20 12:48 PM
I keep seeing ALF and thinking "American Federation of Labour"
and getting confused
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cbass 19-Aug-20 12:49 PM
hey so i tried pitching the china/us funding thing
it got shot down, that's not gonna happen
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Sen. Empharius 19-Aug-20 12:50 PM
damn
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cbass 19-Aug-20 12:50 PM
we have a new plan
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Sen. Empharius 19-Aug-20 12:50 PM
we can still get it throuugh
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cbass 19-Aug-20 12:50 PM
legalizing gambling, sex work, and all drugs and nationalizing all 3 of those industries
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Sen. Empharius 19-Aug-20 12:50 PM
the NLF havent responed yet
legalizing gambling, sex work, and all drugs and nationalizing all 3 of those industries
@cbass I'm down
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cbass 19-Aug-20 12:51 PM
we have the TNO already
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Sen. Empharius 19-Aug-20 12:52 PM
TNO supports everything that has the government doing stuff
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cbass 19-Aug-20 12:53 PM
support is support
the money gained will be given to the education department
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Sen. Empharius 19-Aug-20 12:54 PM
funding education with sex drugs and rock and roll
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cbass 19-Aug-20 12:54 PM
hell yeah
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Deleted User 19-Aug-20 12:56 PM
Cringe
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MemesOnPizza 19-Aug-20 12:58 PM
I support nuclear energy. In fact, in the 1970s-1980s, there was a nuclear powerplant in Ukrainian SSR around 100 km north of Kyiv, and it supplied many Ukrainians with energy for many years. We should use that.
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cbass 19-Aug-20 12:58 PM
who doesn't like nuclear power
where are we gonna get fuel though
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Deleted User 19-Aug-20 12:59 PM
For the sake of realism
We should scrap the trans bill and do gay marriage first
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Sen. Empharius 19-Aug-20 01:00 PM
Iran did it like this
they have Trans legal, and even fund the sergeries
but bieng gay is banned
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Deleted User 19-Aug-20 01:00 PM
Iran is cringe
We aren’t Iran
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MemesOnPizza 19-Aug-20 01:00 PM
I just want nuclear reactor explosions SMH.
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Deleted User 19-Aug-20 01:00 PM
We’re more culturally similar to Europe anyways
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Sen. Empharius 19-Aug-20 01:00 PM
we can legalize both
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Deleted User 19-Aug-20 01:00 PM
No
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Sen. Empharius 19-Aug-20 01:00 PM
problem solved
no need for stageism
just do both at once
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Deleted User 19-Aug-20 01:01 PM
Realism
No
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Sen. Empharius 19-Aug-20 01:01 PM
its unrealstic to pass alot of social reform at once?
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Deleted User 19-Aug-20 01:01 PM
Yes
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Sen. Empharius 19-Aug-20 01:01 PM
no it isnt
its 2020
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Deleted User 19-Aug-20 01:02 PM
We’re an underdeveloped nation
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Sen. Empharius 19-Aug-20 01:02 PM
these are already standerd in alot of places
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MemesOnPizza 19-Aug-20 01:02 PM
I would ban both marriage (in general) and having a gender (any gender in general). It would cause chaos.
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Deleted User 19-Aug-20 01:02 PM
Too bad
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Sen. Empharius 19-Aug-20 01:02 PM
so we can just do it all at once
to catch up
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Deleted User 19-Aug-20 01:02 PM
No
“Catch up”
🤣
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Sen. Empharius 19-Aug-20 01:02 PM
you cant stop us
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Deleted User 19-Aug-20 01:02 PM
I can
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Sen. Empharius 19-Aug-20 01:02 PM
were going to propose a bill about it
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Deleted User 19-Aug-20 01:03 PM
I’ll make an NPC to fight against it
Easy
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Sen. Empharius 19-Aug-20 01:03 PM
we'll have the votes though
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Deleted User 19-Aug-20 01:03 PM
You sure
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Sen. Empharius 19-Aug-20 01:03 PM
yes
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Deleted User 19-Aug-20 01:03 PM
NLF is run by a con Sox
*soc
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 19-Aug-20 01:03 PM
Get 10 signatures. I will put it up for a vote
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Sen. Empharius 19-Aug-20 01:03 PM
the party is still mostly socially left
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Deleted User 19-Aug-20 01:04 PM
NLF unifies behind a leader
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Sen. Empharius 19-Aug-20 01:04 PM
@cbass add gay rights into the bill please
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Deleted User 19-Aug-20 01:04 PM
And get rid of the cringe section
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Sen. Empharius 19-Aug-20 01:04 PM
no dont
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cbass 19-Aug-20 01:05 PM
will add gay rights
marriage?
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 19-Aug-20 01:05 PM
Geez Billy. BIAS
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Deleted User 19-Aug-20 01:05 PM
Gay marriage fine but don’t do massive overhauls
I’m biased for lore
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 19-Aug-20 01:05 PM
REEEEEEEE
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Deleted User 19-Aug-20 01:05 PM
And realism
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 19-Aug-20 01:05 PM
NO
STILL BIAS
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Deleted User 19-Aug-20 01:05 PM
Other mods ageee
*agree
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Sen. Empharius 19-Aug-20 01:05 PM
marriage yes
and adoption
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Deleted User 19-Aug-20 01:05 PM
STILL BIAS
@Dr. Kris Lawrence don’t care
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Sen. Empharius 19-Aug-20 01:06 PM
and equal rights in general
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 19-Aug-20 01:06 PM
Get down from that mod place then
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Deleted User 19-Aug-20 01:06 PM
No.
All I want is realism
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Sen. Empharius 19-Aug-20 01:07 PM
were bieng realistic (edited)
your not
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Deleted User 19-Aug-20 01:07 PM
Not really
No
You’re not
You’re being idealistic
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Sen. Empharius 19-Aug-20 01:07 PM
it is entirly possible to do a bunch of social reform all at once
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Deleted User 19-Aug-20 01:07 PM
In multiple bills
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Sen. Empharius 19-Aug-20 01:08 PM
You’re being idealistic
@Deleted User you dont know what that means
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Deleted User 19-Aug-20 01:08 PM
Not all in one
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Sen. Empharius 19-Aug-20 01:08 PM
yes all in one
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Deleted User 19-Aug-20 01:08 PM
That’s not realistic
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Sen. Empharius 19-Aug-20 01:08 PM
yes it is
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Deleted User 19-Aug-20 01:09 PM
Find me an example of massive gay and transgender right reforms in one bill irl
Please
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Sen. Empharius 19-Aug-20 01:09 PM
We don’t have too
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character-confusion 19-Aug-20 01:09 PM
oof hahe yeah
if you do a ton of social reform at once
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Sen. Empharius 19-Aug-20 01:09 PM
“Has been done before”≠realistic
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character-confusion 19-Aug-20 01:09 PM
there's gonna be backlash
and consequences
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Sen. Empharius 19-Aug-20 01:09 PM
It just has to make sense for us to do
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character-confusion 19-Aug-20 01:11 PM
yeah not saying don't do it
do it if you want
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Deleted User 19-Aug-20 01:22 PM
That’s now how this works
Also that should be #policy-proposals
You need to write an actual bill
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pyromirp 19-Aug-20 03:13 PM
What if instead of legalizing it now
We begin encouraging representation in media
To boost support
And then legalize
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Sen. Empharius 19-Aug-20 03:14 PM
That’s smart
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pyromirp 19-Aug-20 03:15 PM
(Make the conspiracy theories about the LGBTQ+ agenda real)
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Sen. Empharius 19-Aug-20 03:17 PM
Based
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lawnfighteractual 19-Aug-20 03:17 PM
Based
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pyromirp 19-Aug-20 03:17 PM
Also we can “decriminalize” Transitioning and LGBTQ relationships by curbing the ability of law enforcement to punish people for LGBTQ related issues.
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lawnfighteractual 19-Aug-20 03:18 PM
Are we allowed to make statements as individual senators to the populace?
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Sen. Empharius 19-Aug-20 03:18 PM
Probobly
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pyromirp 19-Aug-20 03:18 PM
Probably
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lawnfighteractual 19-Aug-20 03:18 PM
(Is it like a role based thing?)
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pyromirp 19-Aug-20 03:18 PM
Or you could probably ask for an interview with one of the news people
And communicate that way
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lawnfighteractual 19-Aug-20 03:19 PM
(I’m sorry this is my first rp)
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pyromirp 19-Aug-20 03:19 PM
(Np bro)
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cbass 21-Aug-20 07:21 PM
im in a writing mood
is their any bills that need writing
@pyromirp did you write that education bill yet?
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Sen. Empharius 21-Aug-20 07:38 PM
We’re delaying because they did some education reform lately
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cbass 21-Aug-20 07:41 PM
oh
why did no one tell me lmfao
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pyromirp 21-Aug-20 07:44 PM
Sorry man
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cbass 21-Aug-20 07:54 PM
its cool
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:03 PM
well
since we're debating
it's still a shit policy that sacrifices a ton of necessary practicalities
for
what?
nothing, as far as i can tell
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:04 PM
for morality
for respecting the dead
for allowing their families to move on
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:04 PM
sorry to say
that doesn't matter
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:04 PM
so they dont see headlines every damn day about them
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:04 PM
what about the families of vicitms of criminals who will never be tried?
who we'll never know the guilt of?
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Peytonic Master 21-Aug-20 09:04 PM
i mean they dead
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:04 PM
who we'll never know the guilt of?
@character-confusion
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Peytonic Master 21-Aug-20 09:04 PM
so its not a problem
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Deleted User 21-Aug-20 09:04 PM
Then investigate
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:04 PM
it's not about punishment, dumbass
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Deleted User 21-Aug-20 09:04 PM
No need to organize a jury
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:04 PM
it's about knowing
closure (edited)
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Peytonic Master 21-Aug-20 09:05 PM
if they find someone else they try them
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Deleted User 21-Aug-20 09:05 PM
That’s a trial
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:05 PM
or
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Deleted User 21-Aug-20 09:05 PM
Why organize a jury
Or a judge panel
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:05 PM
it's about knowing if someone's guilty so you can find the right person if they aren't
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Deleted User 21-Aug-20 09:05 PM
When there is no defendant to defend themselves
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Amaaroc 21-Aug-20 09:05 PM
It gives way too many loopholes
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:05 PM
the defendant generally doesn't do the defending
that's a laywer
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:05 PM
thats an investigation
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Amaaroc 21-Aug-20 09:05 PM
Way too many ways to cheese your way out of guilt
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:05 PM
no
yeah exactly
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:06 PM
youre calling an investigation and a trial the same thing
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Amaaroc 21-Aug-20 09:06 PM
Wanna know what your bill lets me do?
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:06 PM
and im saying theyre not
what
do tell
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Amaaroc 21-Aug-20 09:06 PM
I can murder someone And murder someone else except I use the person I murdered first as a frame to the second one
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Peytonic Master 21-Aug-20 09:06 PM
@cbass i sign
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:06 PM
ye
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Peytonic Master 21-Aug-20 09:07 PM
but then you still guilty of murder
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Sen. Empharius 21-Aug-20 09:07 PM
Why should I respect the dead?
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Amaaroc 21-Aug-20 09:07 PM
And by framing the dead person, the trial’s auto-closed
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Sen. Empharius 21-Aug-20 09:07 PM
They dont care
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:07 PM
^
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:07 PM
yeah, you can do that, but it doesnt impede an investigation into it
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:07 PM
that's what i'm talkinga bout
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Peytonic Master 21-Aug-20 09:07 PM
you know how hard that is
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:07 PM
Why should I respect the dead?
@Sen. Empharius
they have families
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:07 PM
if you can't have a trial for someone,
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:07 PM
friends
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Amaaroc 21-Aug-20 09:07 PM
Because you refuse to trial the dead
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:07 PM
you can't prove their guilt
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:07 PM
spouses (edited)
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:07 PM
you can't prove their innocence
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Peytonic Master 21-Aug-20 09:07 PM
why dont you just get the assasin to frame someone else to begin with
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:07 PM
and you might miss catching real criminals
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Sen. Empharius 21-Aug-20 09:07 PM
this is a bad policy
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:07 PM
yes
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:07 PM
you guys arent respecting the difference between a trial and an investigation
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:07 PM
a very bad one
convince your party made, ultra
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Amaaroc 21-Aug-20 09:07 PM
It’s really dumb
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Sen. Empharius 21-Aug-20 09:08 PM
I dont care about the dead
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:08 PM
you guys arent respecting the difference between a trial and an investigation
@cbass you are legally unable to determine guilt or innocence without a trial
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Sen. Empharius 21-Aug-20 09:08 PM
there dead
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Deleted User 21-Aug-20 09:08 PM
Why try someone who is dead
There’s no point
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:08 PM
you can't do it with an investigaition
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Deleted User 21-Aug-20 09:08 PM
You don’t have justice
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:08 PM
@Deleted User jasper just explianed a case
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:08 PM
but what is the purpose of that
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Deleted User 21-Aug-20 09:08 PM
Which is the point of a judicial system
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Amaaroc 21-Aug-20 09:08 PM
You get closure
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:08 PM
in which it's necessary
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:08 PM
the legal difference means nothing if that person is dead
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Deleted User 21-Aug-20 09:08 PM
The judicial system isn’t meant for closure
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:08 PM
^
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Sen. Empharius 21-Aug-20 09:08 PM
yes it is
it absolutly is
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Deleted User 21-Aug-20 09:08 PM
It’s to establish justice
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Amaaroc 21-Aug-20 09:09 PM
And plus 2 mods agree it doesn’t work while one mod thinks it does
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Deleted User 21-Aug-20 09:09 PM
That’s the point
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:09 PM
the legal difference means nothing if that person is dead
@cbass wrong. if you can't prove someone dead innocent?
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Amaaroc 21-Aug-20 09:09 PM
So you’re technically overruled
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:09 PM
no
they can pass it
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Deleted User 21-Aug-20 09:09 PM
The fact that we’re mods doesn’t matter
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:09 PM
^
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:09 PM
we can't stop them
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Deleted User 21-Aug-20 09:09 PM
Yeah shut up
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:09 PM
it's just a shit policy
and if you pass it
you will see reprecussions, is all
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Sen. Empharius 21-Aug-20 09:09 PM
I'll vote against it
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:09 PM
then youll make it so the people hate me
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:09 PM
that's any policy tho
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:09 PM
thats a loss i can take
whatever
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:09 PM
lmao
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Sen. Empharius 21-Aug-20 09:09 PM
this is a bad policy
objecitvly
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:09 PM
but why
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:09 PM
bruh
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Amaaroc 21-Aug-20 09:09 PM
Really don’t do it
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:09 PM
BRUH
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Sen. Empharius 21-Aug-20 09:09 PM
in every snese of the word
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:09 PM
we're EXPLAINING
why it's shitty
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:10 PM
no youre not
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:10 PM
okay okay
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Sen. Empharius 21-Aug-20 09:10 PM
it stops you from investigating crimes
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:10 PM
lemme explain again
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Deleted User 21-Aug-20 09:10 PM
A posthumous trial or post-mortem trial is a trial held after the defendant's death. Posthumous trials can be held for a variety of reasons, including the legal declaration that the defendant was the one who committed the crime, to provide justice for society of family members of the victims, or to exonerate a wrongfully convicted person after their death. Due to the heavy cost, they are usually held only under extraordinary circumstances.
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Amaaroc 21-Aug-20 09:10 PM
I just did
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Sen. Empharius 21-Aug-20 09:10 PM
thats bad
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:10 PM
one person at a time
its hard to keep track
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Deleted User 21-Aug-20 09:10 PM
The cost isn’t worth it
Why waste money
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:10 PM
1. if you are accused of a crime you didn't commit, you can't clear your name
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Amaaroc 21-Aug-20 09:10 PM
Why ban them completely
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Peytonic Master 21-Aug-20 09:10 PM
@cbass i want to sign
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Deleted User 21-Aug-20 09:10 PM
Because it’s a waste of money
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Peytonic Master 21-Aug-20 09:10 PM
can you sign for me
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:10 PM
2. you can frame someone for a crime before their death, and since they can't be proven innocent, you can't be proven guilty
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:10 PM
if you are dead, there isn't any value to clearing your name
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:10 PM
bruh
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Sen. Empharius 21-Aug-20 09:10 PM
this is a dumb plan
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:10 PM
if you are dead, there isn't any value to clearing your name
@cbass bruh?
so many reasons
1. inheritence is affected
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Deleted User 21-Aug-20 09:11 PM
You can have an investigation but no trial
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Sen. Empharius 21-Aug-20 09:11 PM
I am agaonst it
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:11 PM
^
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:11 PM
2. your family will be sad
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Amaaroc 21-Aug-20 09:11 PM
Bruh your family name would be fucked
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Deleted User 21-Aug-20 09:11 PM
Boo hoo, we need to save tax money
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:11 PM
@Peytonic Master i sent a new link so you can edit
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:11 PM
3. you might fuck over their lives casue people think a criminal was in their family
and again, as i said
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Peytonic Master 21-Aug-20 09:11 PM
in uk its illegal
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:11 PM
it has a loophole that lets people get away wtih crimes
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:11 PM
dude, a criminal investigation would prove that
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:11 PM
which jasper explaiend
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Peytonic Master 21-Aug-20 09:11 PM
just saying
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:11 PM
you can't prove innocence or guilt without a trial, not legally (edited)
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:11 PM
and do you know how hard it really is to frame someone for murder??
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Amaaroc 21-Aug-20 09:12 PM
I do
I’m saying it’s a possible loophole
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:12 PM
you guys are using a strawman
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:12 PM
mmhm
no
we're telling you scenaiors where it's a bad idea
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Amaaroc 21-Aug-20 09:12 PM
There are many
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:12 PM
thats one scenario
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Deleted User 21-Aug-20 09:12 PM
They are extraordinary circumstances
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Deleted User 21-Aug-20 09:12 PM
You’re making it sound like they’re common
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:12 PM
i just gave like 5
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Peytonic Master 21-Aug-20 09:12 PM
this just applies to charges btw
not even verdicts
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:13 PM
can you sign for me
@Peytonic Master i made the edit
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Peytonic Master 21-Aug-20 09:13 PM
thanks
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:13 PM
@Sen. Empharius please convince your party mate why this is a bad idea
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Peytonic Master 21-Aug-20 09:13 PM
i think we should catch up to the rest of the world
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:13 PM
lmao
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:13 PM
i agree
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Sen. Empharius 21-Aug-20 09:13 PM
please dont do this
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:13 PM
ah yes, the rest of the world...one cherry picked policy
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:13 PM
just because we're a third world country now doesnt mean we have to stay one
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Sen. Empharius 21-Aug-20 09:13 PM
it has zero upsides
and only downsides
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:14 PM
saves money??
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:14 PM
indeed
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:14 PM
saves time??
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:14 PM
lmao
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Sen. Empharius 21-Aug-20 09:14 PM
Britian≠the whole world
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:14 PM
save criminals from jail
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:14 PM
allows families to move on??
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Sen. Empharius 21-Aug-20 09:14 PM
Britian=one shitty part of hte world
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:14 PM
allow families to be caught with guilty looking relatives despite their innocence
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Amaaroc 21-Aug-20 09:14 PM
And what of the families of the crime that it happened to?
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Sen. Empharius 21-Aug-20 09:14 PM
allows families to move on??
@cbass It stops that from happening
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:14 PM
indeed
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Amaaroc 21-Aug-20 09:14 PM
You have to go both ways in using that argument
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Deleted User 21-Aug-20 09:14 PM
Boo hoo, cut the budget, screw the families
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:14 PM
it stops an actual trial and knowing the verdict
so
stuck
forever
yes, you heard billy! screw the families! sign the bill!
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Deleted User 21-Aug-20 09:16 PM
Yes.
Every penny saved is worth the tears of mothers (edited)
We need to finish the LEGOLand
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:16 PM
i want to fill our coffers with shame and sadness
sign me up, cbass
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Peytonic Master 21-Aug-20 09:16 PM
they could dry tears with the bills they save
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:16 PM
this argument is shameful
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AmongstShadows 21-Aug-20 09:16 PM
Are we the US? I wasn't aware our legal system needed a trial to prove a crime was committed
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:17 PM
pathetic
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Deleted User 21-Aug-20 09:17 PM
LEGOLand got delayed due to the war
It must be finished
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Peytonic Master 21-Aug-20 09:17 PM
^
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:17 PM
Every criminal walking free is another glorious plastic block in our kingdom!
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:18 PM
what does that have to do with...?
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Deleted User 21-Aug-20 09:19 PM
Yes
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Peytonic Master 21-Aug-20 09:19 PM
even india banned it
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Deleted User 21-Aug-20 09:19 PM
Precisely
We must continue the construction of LEGOLand
If I don’t see a giant statue of emmet from the LEGO movie there will be issues
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Jeb 21-Aug-20 09:24 PM
make the entire park legos
like not only the decorations
the paths
the plants
the food
everything
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:25 PM
yeah ill eat some legos
@AmongstShadows @Deleted User @Peytonic Master
edited the bill to try to better account for the opinions on the contrary
pinged in the case you all would like to rescind your signatures
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AmongstShadows 21-Aug-20 09:30 PM
(I think we need to get some lawyers to play this game) (edited)
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:30 PM
(fr dude)
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AmongstShadows 21-Aug-20 09:32 PM
(The closest thing to a legit looking bill I've seen was the education bill)
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:33 PM
(in my defense, this is my first bill) (edited)
(and it really only does one thing, and if i need to edit it, i will)
lmao why would there be a trial without substantial evidence?
@character-confusion that isn't what the bill says, it says that if more evidence is presented afterward
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Peytonic Master 21-Aug-20 09:35 PM
like dna overturning
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AmongstShadows 21-Aug-20 09:35 PM
(your bill is fine. I just notice how easily most of our laws could be bypassed 🤣 )
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:35 PM
or if something else comes out
maybe someone confesses
(its not like that kind of thing doesnt happen irl)
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:35 PM
but wht?
what if there's substantial evidence originally?
what if they already have the silver bullet
you'd make them go for more?
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:36 PM
then that would qualify for reopening (edited)
and if not, i would imagine the case would still be open anyway
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AmongstShadows 21-Aug-20 09:37 PM
Maybe we should simply outlaw mock trials... they are pretty gay
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:37 PM
that wouldnt pass
(and the mods would just kill me off or some shit so it couldnt go through cause they wouldnt like it)
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Peytonic Master 21-Aug-20 09:38 PM
based)
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AmongstShadows 21-Aug-20 09:41 PM
(Why would mods dislike outlawing mock trials? Their only purpose is closure)
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:41 PM
we're not going to kill you for passing a bill
(except ultra)
no, i was just saying it's a bad bill with many loopholes
that's my opinion
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Amaaroc 21-Aug-20 09:42 PM
Are we not allowed opinions?
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:49 PM
@character-confusion i modified the bill
idk if you saw
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:51 PM
wait your new policy doens't make sense...
it says a new thing can be presented if a verdict could be overturned or challeneged
but if the trial was banned
there would be no original verdict
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:53 PM
okay
modifying again
shit wait
hm
idk im just gonna leave it
if it flops, it flops
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:56 PM
well
i mean it doesn't even make sense at the moment...
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:57 PM
🤷‍♀️
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character-confusion 21-Aug-20 09:57 PM
In the case that substantial evidence is presented on the contrary to the original verdict, the case can be reopened and the verdict overturned.
in this scenari, there is no original verdict
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cbass 21-Aug-20 09:57 PM
🤷‍♀️
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MemesOnPizza 22-Aug-20 10:17 AM
You should support "The Empathetic Act"
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MemesOnPizza 22-Aug-20 12:03 PM
We should not give aid to the regions affected by the war.
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 22-Aug-20 12:24 PM
@MemesOnPizza What about only giving aid to thuzis?
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Karvina 22-Aug-20 07:08 PM
Support the "Affordable Internet Act"
Cheap internet for all!
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cbass 23-Aug-20 07:41 PM
ty @Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!)
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cbass 23-Aug-20 08:06 PM
(@Amaaroc the questions in that poll were real fuckin biased) (edited)
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Amaaroc 23-Aug-20 08:07 PM
(Yeah)
(I’m aware of it, don’t worry)
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cbass 23-Aug-20 08:08 PM
(k just checking)
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Amaaroc 23-Aug-20 08:09 PM
(Mods go brrrrr with the poll characters we use)
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 23-Aug-20 08:09 PM
(Is there going to be an unbiased version?)
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Amaaroc 23-Aug-20 08:09 PM
(Not sure, don’t think so)
(Unless we pull another NPC because mod screeching)
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 23-Aug-20 08:10 PM
(So will the approval rating change be effected by the biased questions?)
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Amaaroc 23-Aug-20 08:11 PM
(People still really don’t like that you’re fucking with how to bury the dead)
(Be it on biased against you, biased for you, or unbiased in general)
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cbass 23-Aug-20 08:12 PM
(i mean, billy is saying only rich people even bother with the shit thats getting taxed so....)
(who is it hurting, really)
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Amaaroc 23-Aug-20 08:13 PM
(Are you really gonna fight over public opinion)
(Is this really gonna be the hill you’re dying on)
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cbass 23-Aug-20 08:14 PM
(im not arguing lol)
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Deleted User 23-Aug-20 09:28 PM
(A lot of people have headstones)
(They are normally made locally though)
(Small shops)
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cbass 23-Aug-20 09:29 PM
(i edited the bill)
(cut the whole tax portion)
(because that wasnt gonna pass) (edited)
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MemesOnPizza 24-Aug-20 04:27 PM
We should not rebuild areas affected by the war.
Also, we should legalize terrorism.
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BrosPros 24-Aug-20 04:27 PM
that does not make any sense
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 24-Aug-20 04:29 PM
that does not make any sense
@BrosPros So is everything about LOGIC. Our dystopia is their utopia after all
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BrosPros 24-Aug-20 04:31 PM
fucking hell
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 24-Aug-20 04:37 PM
1984, The Purge, Mad Max, Hunger Games. Those are their utopia
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cbass 24-Aug-20 04:39 PM
no, that's TNO
LOGIC's utopia looks more like Fallout
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someguyinshorts 24-Aug-20 04:53 PM
mad max was in there, being post apocalyptic fallout shiz
“Nah that’s TNO”
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cbass 24-Aug-20 05:05 PM
well yeah, outside of TNO
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 24-Aug-20 06:49 PM
lmao
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 24-Aug-20 06:52 PM
1984 is almost a utopia but it requires a few changes
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 24-Aug-20 06:52 PM
1984 is stupid
George Orwell is a genius
Why is 1984 stupid?
There’s 3 choices of Authoritarianism
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 24-Aug-20 06:53 PM
Correct
There should only be one
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 24-Aug-20 06:54 PM
chad
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 27-Aug-20 09:27 AM
The PAR will erupt in violent revolution and terrorist attacks will be made by the people living in squalor against Patrian cultural centers and it will not be my fault
The writing is on the wall
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MemesOnPizza 27-Aug-20 09:28 AM
Pog
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Deleted User 27-Aug-20 09:28 AM
pog
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parm 27-Aug-20 09:30 AM
( pog ) (edited)
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cbass 27-Aug-20 10:13 AM
( #the-news )
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cbass 14-Sep-20 03:41 PM
@Sen. Empharius talk in here not in proposals
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Sen. Empharius 14-Sep-20 03:41 PM
I know
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BrosPros 14-Sep-20 03:43 PM
@parm Are you saying you will sign it?
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parm 14-Sep-20 03:44 PM
sure
oof
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cbass 14-Sep-20 03:44 PM
mega dont sign it
mega no
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parm 14-Sep-20 03:44 PM
wait
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cbass 14-Sep-20 03:44 PM
megaaaaaa
dont
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parm 14-Sep-20 03:44 PM
HMMMM
no
i won't sign
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cbass 14-Sep-20 03:44 PM
patrians fought and died for that land
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parm 14-Sep-20 03:44 PM
but i will vote yes
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cbass 14-Sep-20 03:44 PM
we cant just give it away
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BrosPros 14-Sep-20 03:44 PM
And thuzis did the same and want it back?
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parm 14-Sep-20 03:44 PM
Ni🅱🅱️a we kinda stole it from them
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BrosPros 14-Sep-20 03:45 PM
Sign it mega
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cbass 14-Sep-20 03:45 PM
stole it, conquered it
whats the difference
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BrosPros 14-Sep-20 03:45 PM
We dont deserve that land
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cbass 14-Sep-20 03:46 PM
@character-confusion how many people died in the war again?
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character-confusion 14-Sep-20 03:47 PM
about 200k (edited)
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cbass 14-Sep-20 03:47 PM
thanks
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BrosPros 14-Sep-20 03:48 PM
hey mega
Thuzi rights (edited)
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cbass 14-Sep-20 03:48 PM
so i understand you dont care about the lives of patrium?
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BrosPros 14-Sep-20 03:48 PM
I very much do
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parm 14-Sep-20 03:48 PM
whats the difference
@cbass none
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cbass 14-Sep-20 03:48 PM
you care more about thuzis than patrians, huh
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BrosPros 14-Sep-20 03:48 PM
No
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parm 14-Sep-20 03:49 PM
I want to think it througj
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BrosPros 14-Sep-20 03:49 PM
if we continue like this
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cbass 14-Sep-20 03:49 PM
just remember, patrians died for that land, regardless of whether or not we stole it
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BrosPros 14-Sep-20 03:49 PM
there will be more bloodshed
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cbass 14-Sep-20 03:49 PM
then so be it
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BrosPros 14-Sep-20 03:50 PM
When I proposed giving back the territory to you were in full support.
What changed?
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cbass 14-Sep-20 03:50 PM
ive had a change of heart
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BrosPros 14-Sep-20 03:51 PM
So what would you change?
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cbass 14-Sep-20 03:51 PM
not the owner of the land
probably increase military presence, curb freedom of speech until the region is integrated, then give it back
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BrosPros 14-Sep-20 03:52 PM
Sounds pretty authoritative from a LIBCENTER PARTY
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character-confusion 14-Sep-20 03:53 PM
Lmao
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Sen. Empharius 14-Sep-20 03:53 PM
We’re not lib center
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cbass 14-Sep-20 03:53 PM
friendly reminder our tent extends from ancom to maoism
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Sen. Empharius 14-Sep-20 03:53 PM
We’re leftcenter
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cbass 14-Sep-20 03:53 PM
not ancom to ancap (edited)
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BrosPros 14-Sep-20 03:53 PM
mfw
Look
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cbass 14-Sep-20 03:54 PM
yes?
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BrosPros 14-Sep-20 03:54 PM
I am not going let anyone curb freedoms
for any reason
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cbass 14-Sep-20 03:55 PM
we tried not curbing them and they repaid us by kidnapping our senators
what would you suggest we do?
cause giving them rights doesn't work
we rebuilt their land, gave them citizenship, gave them education
this is what they gave us back
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BrosPros 14-Sep-20 03:55 PM
Its not ours to begin with
we stuck our noses where it didn't belong.
It just make sense really
I might just get the US to look over another set of negotiations
its clear WE dont want give people their rights.
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cbass 14-Sep-20 03:57 PM
the US shouldn't even have a hand in the deck
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cbass 15-Sep-20 07:30 AM
what would you all think of instead of a single overseer for the PAR, we have a council of three overseeing the PAR?
either three elected or members from the three biggest parties
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Polonium 15-Sep-20 03:42 PM
human rights are authoritarian
fuck them
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parm 15-Sep-20 04:02 PM
what would you all think of instead of a single overseer for the PAR, we have a council of three overseeing the PAR?
@cbass BASED
councils are based
replace all single-member positions with councils
fuck unilateralism
all my homies hate unilateralism
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Polonium 15-Sep-20 04:03 PM
no, we need one council per-person
to watch and dictate everything they do
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cbass 15-Sep-20 04:04 PM
you sure you're SV?
@parm elected or appointed based on party size
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parm 15-Sep-20 04:06 PM
uhhh
I don't like just picking based on party
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cbass 15-Sep-20 04:06 PM
(also @character-confusion is this an alright idea or will it fuck up game mechanics?)
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parm 15-Sep-20 04:06 PM
but elected would either lead to disproportional representation
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character-confusion 15-Sep-20 04:06 PM
idk
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parm 15-Sep-20 04:06 PM
or complicated elections
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character-confusion 15-Sep-20 04:06 PM
i mean
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parm 15-Sep-20 04:06 PM
idk
@character-confusion it's just replacing one person with 3 ppl
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character-confusion 15-Sep-20 04:07 PM
the position is only appointed once, as it stands
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parm 15-Sep-20 04:07 PM
not the biggest deal
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character-confusion 15-Sep-20 04:07 PM
it's not periodic
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parm 15-Sep-20 04:07 PM
fair
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cbass 15-Sep-20 04:07 PM
that's true
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character-confusion 15-Sep-20 04:07 PM
🤷‍♂️
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cbass 15-Sep-20 04:07 PM
mega do u think it's worth the effort?
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parm 15-Sep-20 04:11 PM
idk
tbh this is the worst arrangement
either integrate them, give them autonomy, or give them independence
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character-confusion 15-Sep-20 04:13 PM
the purpose was to attempt to integrate them
Jazira's doing it just fine entj
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parm 15-Sep-20 04:15 PM
ik
the jazira model is much better than this tbh
fuck shorts
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cbass 15-Sep-20 04:18 PM
i just want shorts out tbh
cause he sucks at this
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parm 15-Sep-20 04:19 PM
^^^^
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Sen. Empharius 15-Sep-20 04:21 PM
What did Jazira do?
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character-confusion 15-Sep-20 04:22 PM
it's somewhat similar to our plan
minus the nationalization, the loyalization, the military occupation
there's also less animosity toward the government there
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parm 21-Sep-20 07:51 AM
@Amaaroc my fault that my bills are clear? troll
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Amaaroc 21-Sep-20 07:53 AM
There’s a difference between clear and needlessly verbose yet never properly feeling thought through Spend more time on the bill itself instead of the words and definitions, I recommend that (edited)
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character-confusion 24-Sep-20 09:00 PM
Erm @cbass you plan to increase income tax by 22%
At the lowest
That is an incredibly large amount
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Polonium 24-Sep-20 09:00 PM
Fuck income tax
That shit is ass
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character-confusion 24-Sep-20 09:01 PM
That is the kind of increase people care enough about to get upset over, just so you know
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Polonium 24-Sep-20 09:01 PM
I will stitch your cock shut @cbass
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character-confusion 24-Sep-20 09:01 PM
Like, our first event was revolts over a tax they thought was 10% too high
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Polonium 24-Sep-20 09:01 PM
It is
All taxes are too high
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character-confusion 24-Sep-20 09:01 PM
Just saying
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cbass 24-Sep-20 09:02 PM
eh
sounds like low reading ability, character
its only a 3% increase for the majority of the population
a 3% decrease for another group
8% down for the lowest bracket
but sure
cherry pick it
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Amaaroc 24-Sep-20 09:04 PM
I don’t think I have much to say here But like, I think it might be too drastic because of the farm bill getting yote over a 10% tax
In general
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cbass 24-Sep-20 09:04 PM
🤷‍♀️ we'll see
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character-confusion 24-Sep-20 09:06 PM
Oh I did read it backward, but a) that top is still a ton, and b) people still don’t like tax increases, and yours are very large for a lot of people
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Sen. James Durham 24-Sep-20 09:06 PM
I think that the majority of the population would support it if you changed the values of 10-24 to 15%, then kept the same value it is now for 25-39%
then decreased the value of 40-64% to 10%
then 65-84% at 5%
then the rest have no tax
b/c the US does this thing with taxes at the lowest bracket where you dont get taxed
because one dollar for a poor person means so much more than a rich one
so not taxing them is smarter
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cbass 24-Sep-20 09:07 PM
i didnt comprehend that, can you just do it as comments
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Sen. James Durham 24-Sep-20 09:08 PM
k
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cbass 24-Sep-20 09:11 PM
alright hows it look now
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Sen. James Durham 24-Sep-20 09:12 PM
Looks nice
I would personally change the lowest bracket from 5% to none, but it really is personal choice on that one. A lowering of tax is still a lowering of tax
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cbass 24-Sep-20 09:13 PM
5% is good enough for now i think
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Sen. James Durham 24-Sep-20 09:13 PM
Yeah :P
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Deleted User 25-Sep-20 07:38 AM
someone wanna work with me on this bill
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cbass 25-Sep-20 07:46 AM
how's mine look?
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Deleted User 25-Sep-20 08:42 AM
"Until integration is completely, the PAR shall be taxed according to the wishes of the Provisional Overseer" based
i think we should subdivide the PAR further for areas to be fully incorporated
we can incorporate Nuevo Brabante first
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Dieselkeough 25-Sep-20 08:44 AM
!!!
"indeed, but we ought to also remember the other people in the nation. i would say incorporate all of thuzland as soon as possible!"
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cbass 25-Sep-20 08:54 AM
yeah ill add a region by region clause
@Deleted User more resistance or less resistance first
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Deleted User 25-Sep-20 08:56 AM
less
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Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP 25-Sep-20 09:03 AM
Resistance? What does more or less do...
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cbass 25-Sep-20 09:07 AM
more resistance means they don't like us more lmao
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Polonium 25-Sep-20 08:55 PM
Resistance can be destroyed easily
Just hire more police and military
And shoot the resistance
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Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP 25-Sep-20 11:32 PM
But wont more resistance show up?
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 25-Sep-20 11:57 PM
@Polonium there was never any resistance
👁
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parm 29-Sep-20 04:57 PM
Mr. Beifungusong, I have a few changes/critiques to your bill
1) Perhaps income tax reform is not currently necessary. I believe we should wait until we have an opportunity for comprehensive tax reform
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cbass 29-Sep-20 05:10 PM
we already discussed this
i did accept your proposal to push for a jaziran union
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parm 29-Sep-20 05:11 PM
ok
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cbass 29-Sep-20 05:20 PM
@parm the goal of the bill is to move us out of a deficit and at minimum, have a balanced budget
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parm 29-Sep-20 05:25 PM
yes
and the income tax provision puts our budget in limbo
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cbass 29-Sep-20 05:27 PM
but it wont decrease it
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parm 29-Sep-20 05:27 PM
the income tax accounts for roughly ~$330 billion
I woudn't touch it until we have comprehensive reform or the required numbers
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cbass 29-Sep-20 05:28 PM
im not having this debate right now
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parm 29-Sep-20 05:28 PM
I know
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cbass 29-Sep-20 05:28 PM
we're having an actual debate lmfao
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character-confusion 29-Sep-20 05:28 PM
mega you could always just propsoe an alternate bill
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parm 29-Sep-20 05:28 PM
I'm just saying it would be prudent to leave it alone for a while
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character-confusion 29-Sep-20 05:28 PM
you are allowed to copy language from one
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parm 29-Sep-20 05:28 PM
mega you could always just propsoe an alternate bill
@character-confusion i don't want to split the vote and alienate the MLF
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character-confusion 29-Sep-20 05:29 PM
there are no other bills lmao
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parm 29-Sep-20 05:29 PM
smh this is why amendments should be allowed
ok
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cbass 29-Sep-20 05:29 PM
i amended it from stuff you had to say like twice
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parm 29-Sep-20 05:29 PM
yea
i dont want to alienate the MLF
so that's why
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Amaaroc 29-Sep-20 05:29 PM
Amendments are allowed We’ve done them before
It’s just they have to be written separately if the bill already past its period of being written
And they have to be voted on
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character-confusion 29-Sep-20 05:30 PM
well
isn't it usually like you allow ammendments between teh two debates?
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Amaaroc 29-Sep-20 05:30 PM
Yea
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character-confusion 29-Sep-20 05:30 PM
or like after the first for a short period?
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cbass 29-Sep-20 05:30 PM
this event is taking ages smh
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character-confusion 29-Sep-20 05:30 PM
that's cause our SS sucks
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cbass 29-Sep-20 05:30 PM
smh
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Amaaroc 29-Sep-20 05:30 PM
It’s solid the moment the final debate sucks
Gdi I’m busy right now, my god
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cbass 29-Sep-20 05:31 PM
@Dr. Kris Lawrence next time we have an SS election, please run smh
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 29-Sep-20 05:31 PM
I did
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cbass 29-Sep-20 05:31 PM
next time
lmfao (edited)
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Amaaroc 29-Sep-20 05:31 PM
Let me wrap things up, put birds in aviaries, etcetcetc I’ll be back
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cbass 29-Sep-20 05:48 PM
ooooooookay boys, just found out that the island summits are already annual so
im going to replace it with diplomatic missions to three countries
gimme three
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Amaaroc 29-Sep-20 05:49 PM
I’ve seen people want to do China a lot but like China’s risky With the US right next to you
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cbass 29-Sep-20 05:49 PM
i know
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Amaaroc 29-Sep-20 05:49 PM
I’d recommend the EU in general because everything we’ve done so far is HMMMMMMM
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cbass 29-Sep-20 05:49 PM
valid
nvm
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Amaaroc 29-Sep-20 05:50 PM
Sad
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cbass 29-Sep-20 05:50 PM
it would piss the US off
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Amaaroc 29-Sep-20 05:51 PM
What if somaliland
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cbass 29-Sep-20 05:51 PM
no
not stable enough
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 29-Sep-20 05:51 PM
What if we re declare war on Thuziland
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cbass 29-Sep-20 05:52 PM
no
shut up
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 29-Sep-20 05:52 PM
Yed
Kill thuzis
Kill kill kill
Die die die
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cbass 29-Sep-20 05:52 PM
im going to replace it with diplomatic missions to three countries
@cbass anyway
if anyone wants to contribute something meaningful
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parm 29-Sep-20 05:53 PM
I do want to create an immigration plan
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cbass 29-Sep-20 05:53 PM
thats not a country
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parm 29-Sep-20 05:53 PM
ik
but still
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cbass 29-Sep-20 05:53 PM
okay shut up its not what i
why do i bother
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parm 29-Sep-20 05:53 PM
Maybe we can call for multi-lateral negotations that aren't in the assembly
i mean
not in the summit
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 29-Sep-20 05:53 PM
Lets print rupees and make India mad at us troll
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parm 29-Sep-20 05:54 PM
troll
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Duckmaster 29-Sep-20 06:04 PM
troll
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Sen. Empharius 29-Sep-20 08:29 PM
Could we also open free trad with China?
If we’re doing it with everyone else
I’m the interests of neutrality
I’ve seen people want to do China a lot but like China’s risky With the US right next to you
@Amaaroc we can say it’s in the intrest of neutrality
We can’t take a side after all
So we’ll trade with everyone
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cbass 29-Sep-20 08:32 PM
bad idea
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 29-Sep-20 08:32 PM
that's cause our SS sucks
@character-confusion mfw
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cbass 29-Sep-20 08:32 PM
yeah you kinda suck (edited)
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character-confusion 29-Sep-20 08:34 PM
you can't even be bothered to moderate debates
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Sen. Empharius 29-Sep-20 08:35 PM
bad idea
@cbass what’s the issue?
We need to be neutral
This is neutrality
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Sen. Empharius 30-Sep-20 09:33 AM
@cbass
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parm 30-Sep-20 09:33 AM
bruhhhhhh
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cbass 30-Sep-20 09:33 AM
I am taking a test right now.
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parm 30-Sep-20 09:33 AM
^
also
uh
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Sen. Empharius 30-Sep-20 09:34 AM
In the intrests of nuetrality, prosperity, and world trade, we should trade with both the USA and China
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parm 30-Sep-20 09:34 AM
BRUHHHHHHHHH
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Arksiane 30-Sep-20 09:34 AM
trade with india
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Sen. Empharius 30-Sep-20 09:34 AM
Make free trade agreements with them both
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parm 30-Sep-20 09:34 AM
WE'RE TRYING NEGs WITH SELVA
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Arksiane 30-Sep-20 09:34 AM
they are your world power allies
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Sen. Empharius 30-Sep-20 09:34 AM
India is poor
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parm 30-Sep-20 09:34 AM
yea india is good
Yea but india hasn't pissed anyone but pakistan off
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Arksiane 30-Sep-20 09:35 AM
mfw
and china btw
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parm 30-Sep-20 09:36 AM
ark is just proud indian nationalist smh
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Arksiane 30-Sep-20 09:36 AM
i mean, factually it is a top 10
my indian nationalism is just a sideline
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parm 30-Sep-20 09:37 AM
ark is actually a 60-yo white lady
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Arksiane 30-Sep-20 09:38 AM
people always think im an old white man
smh im actually a 3 yo turk
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parm 30-Sep-20 09:39 AM
loool
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cbass 30-Sep-20 09:40 AM
@cbass what’s the issue?
@Sen. Empharius
I’ve seen people want to do China a lot but like China’s risky With the US right next to you
@Amaaroc
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Amaaroc 30-Sep-20 09:40 AM
Why did I get pinged
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parm 30-Sep-20 09:41 AM
oof
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cbass 30-Sep-20 09:41 AM
use your eyes
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Amaaroc 30-Sep-20 09:42 AM
I did And I didn’t realize until now you quoted
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cbass 30-Sep-20 09:42 AM
😔
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Sen. Empharius 30-Sep-20 09:50 AM
But if were already close to the USA we can normalize relations with China
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Господар pакије 30-Sep-20 10:01 AM
What about russia
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cbass 30-Sep-20 10:02 AM
same thing
literally exact same problem
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Господар pакије 30-Sep-20 10:06 AM
No Im saying
We trade with china and russia
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parm 30-Sep-20 10:07 AM
@cbass it's supreme senator not super
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cbass 30-Sep-20 10:07 AM
fuck
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parm 30-Sep-20 10:07 AM
fuck ima sign
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cbass 30-Sep-20 10:07 AM
fixed
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parm 30-Sep-20 10:07 AM
also
say that abe isn't allowed to run in the next ss election
if the bill passes
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cbass 30-Sep-20 10:08 AM
i dont think i can do that
actually
so
yk
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parm 30-Sep-20 10:08 AM
ask the mods
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cbass 30-Sep-20 10:09 AM
lmao
its supreme senator
@Amaaroc fixed it already
but i cant repost the link with the proper title cause slowmode
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parm 30-Sep-20 10:10 AM
sign it for me
smh
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cbass 30-Sep-20 10:11 AM
i will once everyone else has
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Amaaroc 30-Sep-20 10:13 AM
You’ve got a lot of people who signed so far Just teo more sigs
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cbass 30-Sep-20 10:14 AM
i know dude
this is crazy
speed run this bitch (edited)
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Dieselkeough 30-Sep-20 10:15 AM
>.>
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cbass 30-Sep-20 10:16 AM
one to go
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 30-Sep-20 10:17 AM
He will just reject the bill lol
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cbass 30-Sep-20 10:17 AM
i dont think he can
thatd be dumb if we could push for that and then have it rejected on the doorstep
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parm 30-Sep-20 10:17 AM
I don't think Supreme Senators can veto recall proposals
Billy made a bill against that a while ago
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cbass 30-Sep-20 10:21 AM
WE GOT SEVEN
what now
lmfao
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Deleted User 30-Sep-20 10:23 AM
Bill to Repeal the “Patrian Recognition of Somaliland” Due to events transpiring in the Horn of Africa regarding Patrian shipping, the Republic of Patrium will revoke its recognition of the “Republic of Somaliland” and will see it only as a rebellious region of the Federal R...
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cbass 30-Sep-20 10:23 AM
smh billy
framing them
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Deleted User 30-Sep-20 10:23 AM
they literally attacked one of our ships
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parm 30-Sep-20 10:23 AM
lmfao
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Deleted User 30-Sep-20 10:23 AM
displaying their flags
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parm 30-Sep-20 10:23 AM
👀
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cbass 30-Sep-20 10:23 AM
thats sus
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Deleted User 30-Sep-20 10:24 AM
it is
we need to show them we arent to be trifled with
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cbass 30-Sep-20 10:24 AM
no its sus that your news source posted the article and now youre submitting this bill
i think you framed them
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Deleted User 30-Sep-20 10:25 AM
for what gain
literally
our cereals and ore was destined for egypt
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cbass 30-Sep-20 10:25 AM
raiding our ship
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Deleted User 30-Sep-20 10:25 AM
the ship was intercepted
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cbass 30-Sep-20 10:25 AM
i think it was you
not somaliland
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Deleted User 30-Sep-20 10:25 AM
i dont have a navy
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cbass 30-Sep-20 10:25 AM
you could
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Deleted User 30-Sep-20 10:26 AM
i dont
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cbass 30-Sep-20 10:26 AM
how am i to know
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Deleted User 30-Sep-20 10:26 AM
come visit Archduke
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parm 30-Sep-20 10:26 AM
👀
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Deleted User 30-Sep-20 10:26 AM
the PNP has a militia yes, the Patrian Legion
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cbass 30-Sep-20 10:26 AM
thats sus
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Deleted User 30-Sep-20 10:26 AM
but there is no naval or amphibious force in it
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cbass 30-Sep-20 10:26 AM
how can i believe you
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Deleted User 30-Sep-20 10:27 AM
I will send you the financial records
no naval payments
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cbass 30-Sep-20 10:29 AM
WE GOT SEVEN
@cbass anyway
@Big Brother (Clement2022) get this to a vote
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parm 30-Sep-20 10:29 AM
lmfao
lmfaooooooooooo
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 30-Sep-20 10:29 AM
And then he just doesn't
LOOOOL
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character-confusion 30-Sep-20 10:29 AM
“Uh uh uh I didn’t see it, i was busy”
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parm 30-Sep-20 10:30 AM
SSs can't veto recalls afaik
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cbass 30-Sep-20 10:30 AM
meh
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parm 30-Sep-20 10:30 AM
billy made a bill
i thinkl
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cbass 30-Sep-20 10:30 AM
i think mods should just post it 👀
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parm 30-Sep-20 10:30 AM
idk
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character-confusion 30-Sep-20 10:30 AM
I don’t think that happened
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parm 30-Sep-20 10:30 AM
hmm
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character-confusion 30-Sep-20 10:30 AM
And we’re not gonna override our own SS system
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Sen. Empharius 30-Sep-20 10:30 AM
Lets invade Somaliland
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parm 30-Sep-20 10:31 AM
And we’re not gonna override our own SS system
@character-confusion tfw recalls need to be approved by the dude who they're recalling
that makes literally zero fucking sense lol
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character-confusion 30-Sep-20 10:31 AM
Well there isn’t an official recall process
You just wrote a bill
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Deleted User 30-Sep-20 10:31 AM
i can include a clause in the somali bill
troll
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cbass 30-Sep-20 10:31 AM
so if i were to..theoretically... add a clause in that bill
hmm
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parm 30-Sep-20 10:31 AM
👀
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Deleted User 30-Sep-20 10:31 AM
should i add it to the somali bill lmao
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cbass 30-Sep-20 10:31 AM
yk what i think we all have paras
👀
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parm 30-Sep-20 10:32 AM
yes
👀
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Deleted User 30-Sep-20 10:34 AM
Patrium Today is conducting an interview with the captain soon
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cbass 30-Sep-20 10:34 AM
sus
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parm 30-Sep-20 10:34 AM
👀 idk man
seems legit
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 30-Sep-20 10:34 AM
yk what i think we all have paras
@cbass not all have paramilitary, like I think our resistant force disbanded after the war and some are there as night-watchmen
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cbass 30-Sep-20 10:35 AM
we all as in me, the pnp, and the afl
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parm 30-Sep-20 10:35 AM
General Defense Council tho 👀
👀
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Deleted User 30-Sep-20 10:41 AM
@Sen. Empharius plz sign the bill
Bill to Repeal the “Patrian Recognition of Somaliland” Due to events transpiring in the Horn of Africa regarding Patrian shipping, the Republic of Patrium will revoke its recognition of the “Republic of Somaliland” and will see it only as a rebellious region of the Federal R...
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Sen. Empharius 30-Sep-20 10:41 AM
here me out
instead of de-recognizing them we declare sovrengty over it
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Deleted User 30-Sep-20 10:42 AM
one step at a time
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 30-Sep-20 10:42 AM
We declare that it is patrium
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Deleted User 30-Sep-20 10:42 AM
because last time we called for war the UN couldve yeeted us
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 30-Sep-20 10:43 AM
Did they?
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Sen. Empharius 30-Sep-20 10:43 AM
I dont see why we need to de-recognize
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 30-Sep-20 10:43 AM
@Big Brother (Clement2022) get this to a vote
@cbass ?
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Sen. Empharius 30-Sep-20 10:43 AM
this could be a false flag attack by somolia
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Deleted User 30-Sep-20 10:43 AM
we can launch an investigation
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 30-Sep-20 10:44 AM
Then just go to war with Somalia too
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Sen. Empharius 30-Sep-20 10:44 AM
Invade the horn of Africa
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 30-Sep-20 10:44 AM
Take over africa
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cbass 30-Sep-20 10:44 AM
@cbass ?
@Big Brother (Clement2022) what
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Sen. Empharius 30-Sep-20 10:44 AM
I can pull some mental gymnastics to call it not colonialism
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cbass 30-Sep-20 10:44 AM
the recall bill
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Deleted User 30-Sep-20 10:44 AM
dont you understand that the UN will go after us again!
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cbass 30-Sep-20 10:44 AM
^
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 30-Sep-20 10:45 AM
And?
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Deleted User 30-Sep-20 10:45 AM
if we unrecognize them and increase our naval presense, and the persist attacks, thats pretext
we need to follow steps
but id like to avoid playing in the sand
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Dieselkeough 30-Sep-20 11:16 AM
so.
we need to see if it was them, or another foreign power."
"as i am 99% positive it was another group."
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Deleted User 30-Sep-20 11:21 AM
I know that our vessels were attacked by ships bearing the somaliland colors and their cargo was stolen
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Deleted User 30-Sep-20 11:48 AM
@Oslo03 can u do me a favor and sign my bill
i need 1 more sig (edited)
Bill to Repeal the “Patrian Recognition of Somaliland” Due to events transpiring in the Horn of Africa regarding Patrian shipping, the Republic of Patrium will revoke its recognition of the “Republic of Somaliland” and will see it only as a rebellious region of the Federal R...
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Oslo03 30-Sep-20 11:49 AM
Unrecognise Somaliland ? (edited)
Hell yeah
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Deleted User 30-Sep-20 11:49 AM
no this is unrecognizing it
because they attacked us
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Amaaroc 30-Sep-20 11:49 AM
We recognized it
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Deleted User 30-Sep-20 11:49 AM
we recognize them rn
but then they attacked a shipping vessel destined for Egypt
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Amaaroc 30-Sep-20 11:49 AM
And then he desperately wants to undo it Because yes
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Oslo03 30-Sep-20 11:50 AM
Wait a minute, can I sign it considering im just a party member with no characters yet ?
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Deleted User 30-Sep-20 11:50 AM
ye
you can
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Oslo03 30-Sep-20 11:50 AM
Oh well, Alright
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Deleted User 30-Sep-20 11:51 AM
pog i have enough sigs
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Oslo03 30-Sep-20 11:51 AM
I think it's done
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Deleted User 30-Sep-20 11:51 AM
ye
you can make a character in #character-sheets and dm a mod
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Oslo03 30-Sep-20 11:51 AM
Alright.
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Dieselkeough 30-Sep-20 11:54 AM
"They didnt attack us. Aposolatos is just abusing the situation."
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Deleted User 30-Sep-20 11:54 AM
I trust the word of the captain
I have no rrason to lie
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Dieselkeough 30-Sep-20 11:55 AM
"There is literally 0 evidence that they attacked us. For all we know it is-"
"There is no capitains interview."
"You are very much lying to us."
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Deleted User 30-Sep-20 11:55 AM
I am not lying
I am looking at the evidence at hand
why do you wish for our attackers to get away with this
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Dieselkeough 30-Sep-20 11:56 AM
"It is most likely puntland forces bearing the somaliland flag."
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Deleted User 30-Sep-20 11:56 AM
I mean it makes sense considering you are a Thuzi
you just want to see our nation collapse
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Dieselkeough 30-Sep-20 11:56 AM
"Or somalian forces bearing the flag."
"Or pirates "
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Deleted User 30-Sep-20 11:56 AM
So your barberous people can run wild
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Dieselkeough 30-Sep-20 11:57 AM
"Oh SUUURE i do." She frowned. "You and i both know that you are abusing the situation for your own gain."
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parm 30-Sep-20 11:57 AM
oh lord
please
please
wait for the investigation
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 30-Sep-20 11:57 AM
Shoot first
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parm 30-Sep-20 11:58 AM
i do not wish to see any senators wildly speculating
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 30-Sep-20 11:58 AM
Ask questions later
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Dieselkeough 30-Sep-20 11:58 AM
"We need both an eventual response from the somaliland government as well as looking into what exactly happened specifically."
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Deleted User 30-Sep-20 11:58 AM
I believe President Taylor should be making a statement on this attack soon
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 30-Sep-20 11:59 AM
Kill kill kill
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Deleted User 30-Sep-20 12:18 PM
Proposal to Bring Senator 🔣🔢🔡 To Trial Effective 24 hours after this bill’s passage, Senator 🔣🔢🔡 will be brought to trial on the charge of human rights violations in the Provincial Acquisition Region. This trial will be conducted in and by the Senate of the Republic of Patriu...
@Sen. Empharius
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Amaaroc 30-Sep-20 12:19 PM
I wanna sign it It’ll be fun
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Sen. Empharius 30-Sep-20 12:20 PM
Could you sign it for me?
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Deleted User 30-Sep-20 12:20 PM
ye
idk what else i should add (edited)
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 30-Sep-20 12:23 PM
Delete this
handwithgun
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Deleted User 30-Sep-20 12:23 PM
Justice shall prevail my friend
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 30-Sep-20 12:23 PM
You investing me is corrupt
You don't have evidence of anything
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Deleted User 30-Sep-20 12:25 PM
I just want to see justice Senator
you torturing Thuzis, no matter how barberous they are, is not the route we should take
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 30-Sep-20 12:27 PM
I never even tortured thuzis though
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parm 30-Sep-20 12:29 PM
@Deleted User sign le bill for me
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Deleted User 30-Sep-20 12:29 PM
Then use the trial to prove your innocence
what bill
oh
ye
i will
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Господар pакије 30-Sep-20 12:36 PM
I am here to say that the Osnovist party opposes both the proposition to take senator dinoboy to trial and to recall the SS
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Sen. James Durham 30-Sep-20 03:52 PM
investigation is for wimps
shoot first
ask questions later
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cbass 30-Sep-20 05:06 PM
@Deleted User accept my edit
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Deleted User 30-Sep-20 06:01 PM
done
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Amaaroc 01-Oct-20 07:00 PM
I don’t really like the bill gotta say We have a lot of inactive members either way and it doesn’t matter much
And of those inactive members, many vote but don’t talk
I think more tallies and pings and junk are gonna just make them walk off
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character-confusion 01-Oct-20 07:01 PM
this seems more like game mechanics than senate policy
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Amaaroc 01-Oct-20 07:02 PM
It is
Haven’t we said before that they can’t mess with game mechanics?
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character-confusion 02-Oct-20 11:19 AM
hey @EXHALE_T3CHO fact check on your "freedom of thought and expression" bill. 76% of the PAR, the region we acquired from our enemy country after the war, does not approve of the patrian government. that statistic does not apply to the whole country.
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Господар pакије 02-Oct-20 12:24 PM
Perhaps assimilation is the path forward? (edited)
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cbass 02-Oct-20 12:34 PM
we tried that sorta
dunno how it's been going, we haven't really gotten any updates
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cbass 02-Oct-20 07:05 PM
id sign but i cant
also mods said its hell to enforce, so best of luck getting it through the mod filter
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parm 02-Oct-20 07:07 PM
idsign
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cbass 02-Oct-20 07:08 PM
suggestion: specify the size of the flag
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parm 02-Oct-20 07:08 PM
maybe
I hate the format in the standardization bill tho
it is hell to set that up
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cbass 02-Oct-20 07:09 PM
true
but oh well
i also dont appreciate the lack of specific fonts and font sizes
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parm 02-Oct-20 07:10 PM
I'd prefer either the format i use (name, authors, signatures, purpose, articles with outlines)
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cbass 02-Oct-20 07:10 PM
i dont like yours lol
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parm 02-Oct-20 07:10 PM
Helevtica Neue 12 pt
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cbass 02-Oct-20 07:10 PM
yeah nvm
im not signing that
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parm 02-Oct-20 07:10 PM
I aint
I want acts standardization
but not in that manner
maybe times new roman?
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Amaaroc 02-Oct-20 07:10 PM
eah
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cbass 02-Oct-20 07:11 PM
i still think mine is the best tbh
its simple, easy to set up
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parm 02-Oct-20 07:11 PM
12 pt should be the font size and times new roman/helvetuca neue the font
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cbass 02-Oct-20 07:11 PM
and still looks relatively neat
times new roman
26 pt title, 18 pt article title, 12 normal text
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parm 02-Oct-20 07:12 PM
i think due to writng school essays, tiems new roman has grown on me
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cbass 02-Oct-20 07:12 PM
ive always liked it tbh (edited)
i also like georgia
but its less formal (edited)
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parm 02-Oct-20 07:12 PM
I used to only like sans serif
but serif has grown on me
especially cambria and times new roman
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cbass 02-Oct-20 07:13 PM
hm
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parm 02-Oct-20 07:13 PM
26 pt title, 18 pt article title, 12 normal text
@cbass I do the same but 24 pt title
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cbass 02-Oct-20 07:13 PM
either way, standardizing would be hell to enforce, even if i am in favor of it
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parm 02-Oct-20 07:13 PM
Perhaps
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cbass 02-Oct-20 07:13 PM
and teaching that to the new people would be hell
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parm 02-Oct-20 07:13 PM
I'd make a best practices bill
but not a mandatory standard
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cbass 02-Oct-20 07:14 PM
and would add a wall between bill writers and non bill writers
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parm 02-Oct-20 07:14 PM
^^^
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cbass 02-Oct-20 07:14 PM
so
meh
anyway
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Amaaroc 02-Oct-20 07:14 PM
So should we scratch it or
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parm 02-Oct-20 07:14 PM
if we do standardize, the format ought to be as simple as possible
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Amaaroc 02-Oct-20 07:14 PM
Loosen it
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parm 02-Oct-20 07:14 PM
nah just make it non mandatory
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cbass 02-Oct-20 07:14 PM
im gonna go write an education bill to save for when we have an event relevant
no
loosen it
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 02-Oct-20 07:15 PM
tfw even the most simple thing must be political
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cbass 02-Oct-20 07:15 PM
because i literally will not write bills if that passes
that isnt simple
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parm 02-Oct-20 07:15 PM
Then again i hate the format in the bill
it's not political, it's just hard
to do
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cbass 02-Oct-20 07:15 PM
i tried setting up in that format and the language is garbage, its incredibly unspecific
and like i said, its gatekeeping
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parm 02-Oct-20 07:15 PM
why aren't outlines enough? boohooo
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cbass 02-Oct-20 07:15 PM
but whatever
that wont pass (edited)
because the format is just outright bad
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parm 02-Oct-20 07:16 PM
^
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 02-Oct-20 07:16 PM
I mean the bill sat there, unnoticed for 3 months, it will be outdated
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cbass 02-Oct-20 07:16 PM
then get rid of it
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parm 02-Oct-20 07:16 PM
yea
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cbass 02-Oct-20 07:16 PM
no one wants it lmfao
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 02-Oct-20 07:16 PM
Update it
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parm 02-Oct-20 07:16 PM
It was proposed back in the beginning of summer
actuallu
i thought we passed it
lmfao
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 02-Oct-20 07:16 PM
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parm 02-Oct-20 07:16 PM
yea at the beginning
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cbass 02-Oct-20 07:20 PM
anyway
gonna go do education reform
but like
in a while
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parm 02-Oct-20 07:24 PM
mood
the pep was mehhh
gonna go do education reform
@cbass abolsih standarized testing
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Amaaroc 02-Oct-20 07:24 PM
Vibe time
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parm 02-Oct-20 07:24 PM
dont torture these imaaginary students
anybody else hate hw?
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cbass 02-Oct-20 07:25 PM
meh
nvm
got lazy
didnt care anymore
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parm 02-Oct-20 07:25 PM
mod
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cbass 02-Oct-20 07:25 PM
will write bill other times
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parm 02-Oct-20 07:25 PM
mood
ah
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Deleted User 02-Oct-20 08:00 PM
@Dr. Kris Lawrence i will sign
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:19 PM
Sign my bill to legalize the gay
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:20 PM
no
i assume itll win anyways
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:20 PM
I will sign it if there's a tax write off for married folks
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:20 PM
It just does gay
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:20 PM
and add a tax reduction for having children
it can do more
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:20 PM
and being married
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:21 PM
yes
i agree with Smith
the family unit must be promoted and preserved
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 10:21 PM
I think that’s a good idea, no? Because you have it in a lot of countries already
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:21 PM
what idea?
the tax stuff for families?
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:22 PM
tax write off for those who wish to leave their legacy
huh
very auth of me
lol
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:22 PM
based
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:22 PM
but yeah it tends to be a good idea
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:22 PM
if we have tax write offs for being married and having children i will support
but i wont sign
ill just have my party vote in favor
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:23 PM
same here
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:23 PM
Can we just do gay?
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:23 PM
no
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:23 PM
No
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:23 PM
As it’s own thing?
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:23 PM
no
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:23 PM
no
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 10:23 PM
Why don’t you add it in recommendations Assuming ultra let recs in?
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:23 PM
Why not?
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:23 PM
Its pretty gay man
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:23 PM
because
i want other things passed
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:23 PM
Its pretty gay man
@BrosPros that is the point
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:23 PM
and its efficient
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:24 PM
ye
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:24 PM
i want other things passed
@Deleted User can’t they be their own bill?
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:24 PM
why not be in the same one
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:24 PM
I don’t want to dilute it
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:24 PM
are you against promoting birth rates in this nation
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 10:24 PM
They’re related enough
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:24 PM
do you want us to die off?
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 10:24 PM
And the key is working with other parties
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:25 PM
we must keep the family unit sacred, while i oppose your bill for other merits, a combined operation would be beneficial to both of us
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:25 PM
are you against promoting birth rates in this nation
@Deleted User I give no shits
Fiiiiine
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:25 PM
Ultrakius wishes for our nation to crumble then
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:25 PM
^^^
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:25 PM
I’ll add it
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:25 PM
to have a nation of the gay and elderly
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:25 PM
I have been saying this for months (edited)
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:25 PM
But I’m including adoption in that
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 10:25 PM
Makes sense
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:25 PM
Ye
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:25 PM
What % should the write off be?
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 10:25 PM
Raising the young of a nation is hard work, if you birthed it or not
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:26 PM
I agree
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:26 PM
@Sen. Empharius take whatever current tax bracket and reduce it by 60%
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:26 PM
Can we get a poll for a more recent perception of gay marriage in patrium @Amaaroc
per child?
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:26 PM
@Sen. Empharius equally too
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:26 PM
or make it graduated
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:26 PM
@Sen. Empharius take whatever current tax bracket and reduce it by 60%
@BrosPros that’s too much
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:26 PM
no dice then
gay shall burn
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 10:27 PM
Bro a 5% tax cut is huge
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:27 PM
Yeah, that’s too big
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:27 PM
nah
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:27 PM
it can be a credit
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:27 PM
its not enough
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 10:27 PM
You can’t expect 60% realistically
5% is a really good cut
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:27 PM
33,000 shakls for each child
as a credit
equivalent to 1650 USD
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:27 PM
if some has 9% rate reduce that rate by 60%
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 10:28 PM
I mean I think 5% tax reduction is good
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:28 PM
Maybe I could make some things related to raising a child tax deductible?
I mean I think 5% tax reduction is good
@Amaaroc too big
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:28 PM
what about the tax credit
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:28 PM
Eh, sure
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:28 PM
nah
not enough
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:28 PM
considering our median income
it seems more than enough
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:28 PM
hmm
10%
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:29 PM
You must know that it is painful for me to cut taxes
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:29 PM
I dont care
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:29 PM
Average income is 22k USD Median income is 12k USD
maybe i need to reduce my amount
since we have a graduated tax we can work with that
but ill do it tomorrow
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:30 PM
Look, if you guy's are insisting we limit our defense we should only take whats needed to allow the goverment to function, not add to our pockets
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:30 PM
we are taxing to reduce debt
thats the primary reason
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:30 PM
I want higher taxes not more damn cuts
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:30 PM
sorry man
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:30 PM
we already raised taxes!
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:30 PM
everyone wants cuts
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:31 PM
we needed to raise them to pay off the debt
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:31 PM
we already raised taxes!
@Deleted User I do not care
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:31 PM
the man wants 100% tax rate smh
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:31 PM
yeah
gay shall burn then
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:31 PM
I want a 0% income tax rate ideally
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:31 PM
Wow an ancap
join our party
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:31 PM
Since you don’t need to tax someone’s income if the government pays their wages
peabrain 2
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:31 PM
hes gonna have me in the first half
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:32 PM
thats OUR GOAL
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:32 PM
Once you have a fully state economy you don’t need income taxes
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:32 PM
fuck state economy
all my homies hate state economy
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:32 PM
We like private
look man
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:33 PM
i hate this bills formatting
it looks ugly
we need to pass that bill standardization act
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:33 PM
if you really want gay men to be apart of your poly marrige then you gotta include some stuiff we ALL want
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 10:33 PM
@Deleted User the amount of children in Patrium that have been adopted is around 1.5%, coming up to roughly 465000 people bein adopted
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:33 PM
is that the adoption rate of malaysia?
lmao
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 10:34 PM
There isn’t a calculated adoption rate in Malaysia
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:34 PM
lmao fucking ultrakius... i dont care if people have kids... but i need a government sustainable enough to pay everyones income
threehead
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:35 PM
Plus
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 10:35 PM
When I look it up I get “the adoptive child in Malaysia must be under 21” etc etc etc
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:35 PM
tax cuts
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:35 PM
I don’t know if I can go against my principles like that
I’ll give it a day
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:35 PM
thats why its called compromise
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:35 PM
i will write my own bill then
if he cannot do this
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:36 PM
@Deleted User sure
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:36 PM
ill do it tomorrow
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:36 PM
After that day I’ll add it
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:36 PM
I will get my party to support it
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 10:36 PM
Bro just put I in
It’s not that painful
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:36 PM
Okay
Fine
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 10:36 PM
A ton of other countries have it too
Because guess wha
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:36 PM
@Deleted User what are your demands?
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:36 PM
Ult man I dont see people defend freedom of speech like this
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 10:36 PM
Raising a child costs millions of dollars in the long run
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:36 PM
Okay
I’ll add it
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:36 PM
tax cuts for married couples, birthing, and raising children
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 10:37 PM
And adoption
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:37 PM
to promote a strong familial system
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 10:37 PM
If we’re including birthing we should include adoption
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:37 PM
raising is within adoption
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:37 PM
6% cut for marrige
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:37 PM
nah
like 2%
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:37 PM
Okay
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:37 PM
5%
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:37 PM
2.5%
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:37 PM
I can do 2
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:37 PM
2.5%
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:37 PM
2.5 is fine
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:37 PM
no dice
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 10:37 PM
Delicious compromise
Y’all finally figured it out
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:37 PM
also
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:37 PM
then 5% for the first child
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 10:37 PM
It only took 2 months
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:37 PM
6 for the second
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:38 PM
how much ingame time has actually passed?
ingame lol
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 10:38 PM
Shouldn’t it be lest for the second?
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:38 PM
no
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:38 PM
no
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:38 PM
you want more kids
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 10:38 PM
I don’t know But time has passed
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:38 PM
and its total
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:38 PM
I thought we were doing a tax credit for kids?
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:38 PM
tax credit is more annoying
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:38 PM
ITS CUT OR ELSE
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:38 PM
because i have to do math
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:38 PM
Strong nuclear family and shit
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:38 PM
We don’t have to do the math
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 10:38 PM
I don’t think it’s a good idea to pressure pressure into having more kids like that u kno
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:39 PM
the credit shouldnt be equal to every citizen based on income
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 10:39 PM
Just say “if you have kids you get a 5% cut”
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:39 PM
it should be 5% total for first
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:39 PM
literaly say that
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 10:39 PM
Easier math
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:39 PM
5.5% total for 2nd
then 6% for third
6.25% for fourth and up
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 10:39 PM
No
You’ll trash the economy and overpopulate the fuck out of us if you do that
It’s a bad idea
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:40 PM
then 5.5% across the board
100% tax cut if you have 100 kids
just to see if its possible
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 10:40 PM
oh my god
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:40 PM
but you have to birth all 100
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:40 PM
The PNP seems to be an auth social Darwinism party huh? (edited)
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 10:40 PM
Mormons where you at
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:40 PM
How about “if raising children creates a strong financial difficulty to the adult that would raise them, they will be provided with a tax credit to compensate”
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:40 PM
social darwinism is cringe
tax cut
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:41 PM
Nah
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:41 PM
Does that work?
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:41 PM
its automatic
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:41 PM
well actually
hmmmm
we need to pay off the debt
or else were fucked
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:41 PM
We shoudlnt spend then
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:41 PM
we arent
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:41 PM
allow private companies to take over certain aspects
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:41 PM
we raised taxes and didnt spend
yeah
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:41 PM
like milataary
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:41 PM
allow private companies to take over certain aspects
@BrosPros I will die first
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:41 PM
not military
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:41 PM
its no loss to me
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:41 PM
How about “if raising children creates a strong financial difficulty to the adult that would raise them, they will be provided with a tax credit to compensate”
I’d this fine?
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:42 PM
whats the amount of the tax credit
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:42 PM
I’m willing to add it
whats the amount of the tax credit
@Deleted User I don’t think we have to specify
The game isn’t 100% realistic
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:42 PM
it could be 20% of the household income
i think thats fair
idk
im just spitballing
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:42 PM
I don’t want to make it more for rich families though
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:42 PM
look if we are actually committed to a debt free country we should just reduce the income of the senators
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:42 PM
That worries me
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:42 PM
yeah
i agree
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 10:43 PM
We didn’t write out every bit of tax for a rest
Reason*
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:43 PM
I’ll just do the thing I sent
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 10:43 PM
It’s hell to calculate
I already do it yearly don’t make me do it for this too
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:43 PM
ill think of something better
keep that as a placeholder
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:43 PM
I added the thing I sent
Can you sign?
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:44 PM
i wont sign because of gay
but ill vote
but dont put it up until i narrow down the credit
i have to be realistic with my parties goals
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:44 PM
I won't sign cuz of the discrim bit being too broad
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:44 PM
define descrim in the bill
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 10:44 PM
Then suggest and sign
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:45 PM
im not gonna sign the bill
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 10:45 PM
I was talking to Jason
Fuckin time baby
Smh
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:45 PM
I'll sign but for a vote you need to define discrim
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:45 PM
i got out the graph paper for this math
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:45 PM
Anyone with the link can suggest things
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:46 PM
If I refuse someone from business then that's just that.
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:46 PM
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:46 PM
it can be for any reason
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 10:46 PM
Fuckin ancaps
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BrosPros 03-Oct-20 10:46 PM
bruh what did you expect?
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:48 PM
I only need one more
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:48 PM
a tax credit of 14000 shakls should be good
thats 700 USD
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:49 PM
Eh, sure
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:49 PM
per child
since its a credit not a cut
and proportionally it will help poorer Patrians more
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 10:49 PM
@Sen. Empharius yo7 got your 7 sig, youre home free
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:50 PM
Maybe increase it to 20000 shakls for the bottom 25%
@Sen. Empharius
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 10:50 PM
Of course Billy’s doing his ting But I saw it happen and wanted to tell you
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:50 PM
Thanks
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:50 PM
so 14000 for 25%+ and 20000 for less than 25%
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 03-Oct-20 10:50 PM
Hello
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:51 PM
can you add that Ultra?
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:51 PM
I just put it as 700 USD
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:51 PM
ok
so then 1000 USD for income in the bottom quartile
im trynna use shakls for immersion
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 10:51 PM
(Brb, bird being wack)
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:51 PM
i may or may not have done the audit all in shakls
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 10:52 PM
Dude the mods voted to retcon shakls and revamp with something better
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:52 PM
when?
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 10:52 PM
I’m recommending using USD
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:52 PM
im not changing the chart
just divide by 20
we could pass an in game bill switching to USD
@Sen. Empharius please add the 1000 for those in the bottom 1/4th
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:53 PM
Okay
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:54 PM
ill actually sign the bill
also change the preamble
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:54 PM
I don’t need any more
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 03-Oct-20 10:54 PM
I believe in equal rights
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:54 PM
change the preamble to be more general
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 03-Oct-20 10:55 PM
No rights for anyone= equal rights
troll
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:55 PM
lmao
true true
if i become more totalitarian ic its because im rewatching house of cards
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 10:58 PM
Oh no
pulls up a dart gun /s
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 10:59 PM
@Sen. Empharius change the preamble to "It is time for Patrium to re-evaluate its civil rights and liberties, doing this we must grant equal rights to all forms of marriage. It is also pertinent to support our families, in all forms, with a child tax credit."
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 10:59 PM
Eh, sure
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 11:00 PM
It feels like it’s putting more concentration to the families than the gay So I think it needs some gay too
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 11:00 PM
True
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 11:00 PM
smh i literally said all forms of marriage
not just the gay
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 11:00 PM
Maybe like “In all forms— man to man, woman to woman, or man to woman—“
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 11:00 PM
its a preamble
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 11:00 PM
Yes it is
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 11:00 PM
But the gay though
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 11:00 PM
The gayyyyyyyyy
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 11:00 PM
Gayyyyyyyy
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 11:00 PM
imagine being gay/s
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 11:00 PM
The gaaaaayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 11:00 PM
cringe
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 03-Oct-20 11:01 PM
t h e g a y
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 11:01 PM
GAYYYYY
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 03-Oct-20 11:02 PM
T̸̟̃h̷̆̓é̴͋ ̸̊̏g̶͐̀a̸͂͝ỹ̸͝
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 11:02 PM
cursed
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 03-Oct-20 11:02 PM
true
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 11:02 PM
id assume this is the same now
its not like people would quickly change their minds on this
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 11:03 PM
Want me to rewrite it and throw it up to the opinions? Without the transgender stuff
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 11:04 PM
does it need rewriting
it should be fine
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 11:04 PM
I meant it as “hee hoo I type it out” (edited)
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Deleted User 03-Oct-20 11:04 PM
oh
ye
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Sen. Empharius 03-Oct-20 11:05 PM
Sure
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Amaaroc 03-Oct-20 11:07 PM
There u go, made it official
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Господар pакије 04-Oct-20 12:47 AM
I do not support the gay
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Deleted User 04-Oct-20 07:48 AM
That’s why I added the family stuff
Balance it out in its inevitable passage
It’s like betting on the sports team you hate because you’ll make money off of it
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Господар pакије 04-Oct-20 07:55 AM
I dont bet tho
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Deleted User 04-Oct-20 08:03 AM
Have you heard of an analogy
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Господар pакије 04-Oct-20 08:21 AM
I have
And by saying I dont bet, Im telling you I dont care about the money I might gain from betting on the team I hate, Im not betting and I still dislike the other team
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Sen. Sapphire R. (She/Her) (PPE) 04-Oct-20 10:08 PM
With the Turing bill, the second point, if passed: "Legalizes marriage between consenting adults." Could I propose adding the world "any"? It would look like this: "Legalizes marriage between any consenting adults." I feel like that would be more inclusive and helpful towards the bill's point.
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 04-Oct-20 10:35 PM
I honestly don't see the difference.
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Dieselkeough 04-Oct-20 10:36 PM
by not adding it, restrictions can be added in the future
by having just consenting adults, it does not mean every consenting adults
so long as there is at least one
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 04-Oct-20 10:40 PM
??
Honestly don't understand but in my opinion, this would require a separate bill to be voted on.
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Sen. Sapphire R. (She/Her) (PPE) 04-Oct-20 10:46 PM
To me, it is just a grammatical error.
The focus could be shifted to the consent part instead of the intended picture
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cbass 04-Oct-20 10:46 PM
^
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Sen. Sapphire R. (She/Her) (PPE) 04-Oct-20 10:47 PM
Either way, adding the word "any" supports both the intended message, proper grammar, and consent.
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 04-Oct-20 10:48 PM
Guess I'm being the Court too. troll
Big Brother Majority Opinion, We the court unanimously agree this is what the document intended.
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Sen. Sapphire R. (She/Her) (PPE) 04-Oct-20 10:50 PM
so, are you saying the word "any" will be added to the bill?
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 04-Oct-20 10:58 PM
"Yes."
"Specifically before the word consenting."
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Sen. Empharius 04-Oct-20 11:14 PM
I did it already
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Sen. Sapphire R. (She/Her) (PPE) 04-Oct-20 11:55 PM
They put the word "any" in the wrong place 😂
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Sen. Empharius 05-Oct-20 08:34 AM
oof
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Sen. Empharius 05-Oct-20 08:33 PM
I don’t like Mega’s Bill
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cbass 06-Oct-20 04:05 AM
lmao i signed it
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Sen. Empharius 06-Oct-20 08:13 AM
it's way of getting delegates fucking sucks
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parm 06-Oct-20 08:13 AM
why?
we're trying to be fair to all the parties, without letting any parties becoming too powerful
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Sen. Empharius 06-Oct-20 08:14 AM
it underrepresents large parties, overrepresents odeoligies that split into multiple parties, an completly ignors small parties
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parm 06-Oct-20 08:15 AM
1) it underrepresents very large parties, as to not let them dominate
2) ?
3) small parties elect their own representatives as well
just not per party
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Sen. Empharius 06-Oct-20 08:16 AM
it underrespresents all large parties, not just very large. If the NLF split into two parties they would get an extra vote, which is silly, yeah one
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parm 06-Oct-20 08:16 AM
but would they split?
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Sen. Empharius 06-Oct-20 08:17 AM
every small party is added up together to make 1 guy
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parm 06-Oct-20 08:17 AM
bruh
the small paties have 6 delegates to share among them
and this is so that the large parties don't completely drown out the voices of minor parties
underrepresentation isn't a bug; it's a feature
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Deleted User 06-Oct-20 08:22 AM
Also no economics in the constitution
That’s not the point of it
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cbass 06-Oct-20 08:45 AM
^
we'll discuss more once the actual convention starts
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Sen. Empharius 06-Oct-20 09:04 AM
then whats the point of it?
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Deleted User 06-Oct-20 09:07 AM
Point of what?
A constitution has nothing to do with economics really, just government structure
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cbass 06-Oct-20 09:12 AM
^
the rights of man
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parm 06-Oct-20 09:26 AM
yea i gess
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Deleted User 06-Oct-20 09:36 AM
Constitutions don’t need to list out rights either
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cbass 06-Oct-20 09:55 AM
they should
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parm 06-Oct-20 09:56 AM
^
they should
anyways this is talk for the convention
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Sen. Empharius 06-Oct-20 10:00 AM
Alright, I changed my mind, its good
should me or Jack be sent to the convention though
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cbass 06-Oct-20 10:04 AM
me
lmfao
also sign the bill
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Sen. Empharius 06-Oct-20 10:10 AM
dammit
is ther any way we can both show up?
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cbass 06-Oct-20 10:12 AM
no
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Sen. Empharius 06-Oct-20 10:13 AM
and thats my issue with the bill
everyone should be able to talk and make suggestions
if were writing a constitution I want to be part of it dammit
It'll be a nation defiinng epoch and I dont want to be excluded just because my party has multiple active members
I wont stand for it!
and you wouldnt stand for it if it was me
So lets let all the active people participate!
@parm See?
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parm 06-Oct-20 10:22 AM
see, here's the thing
1) ur not going to be excluded
the delegates just choose the exact wording
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Sen. Empharius 06-Oct-20 10:23 AM
not bieng able to participate on what the bill says=being excluded
that seems obvius
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parm 06-Oct-20 10:24 AM
but you get to suggest things
as well
I mean, we could do a party-proportional system if you really want it
but im not in favor of a special exemption from the system
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Sen. Empharius 06-Oct-20 10:24 AM
I just want to be there
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parm 06-Oct-20 10:26 AM
hmmm
i'll see if it is possible
perhaps
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Sen. Empharius 06-Oct-20 10:26 AM
I mean, we could do a party-proportional system if you really want it
@parm that jsut seems superior to the current system in general
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parm 06-Oct-20 10:26 AM
maybe i could change it to 10
so that MLF is a minor party, then both you and cbass can run as minor party delegates
or i could just adjust the votes for each party
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Sen. Empharius 06-Oct-20 10:27 AM
or change it to a system that doesnt arbitrarally limit it to one delegate
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parm 06-Oct-20 10:27 AM
no, bc that would allow the big parties to dominate
like the BIG one
ok
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Sen. Empharius 06-Oct-20 10:27 AM
they dont have multiple active people
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Dieselkeough 06-Oct-20 10:28 AM
i agree with mega
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parm 06-Oct-20 10:28 AM
I will change it so that each major party can send as many delgates as they want
but only one vote
per delegation
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Sen. Empharius 06-Oct-20 10:28 AM
I'm fine with that
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Dieselkeough 06-Oct-20 10:28 AM
//on an ooc level, having smaller parties havinng more power, may encourage the smaller parties to be more active
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parm 06-Oct-20 10:28 AM
(yea)
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Sen. Empharius 06-Oct-20 10:28 AM
(makes sense)
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parm 06-Oct-20 10:29 AM
and (if we do formal debates or vcs or smth) each delegation has to split speakng time amongst themselves
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Sen. Empharius 06-Oct-20 10:30 AM
(We have speaking time? Oh god its a formal debate)
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parm 06-Oct-20 10:33 AM
(maybe)
(perhaps)
(idk)
(then again it's cbass's decision to let u be a delegatea0
@Sen. Empharius @Dieselkeough so is that enough for ur sigs?
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Sen. Empharius 06-Oct-20 10:41 AM
(I signed already)
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parm 06-Oct-20 10:44 AM
Very well, I shall consult with the Board of Discussion on this composed of Sens. Mega, [REDACTED], and [REDACTED]
We'll consider the changes
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cbass 11-Oct-20 07:16 PM
let the hellscape begin
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parm 11-Oct-20 07:16 PM
yeeeeeee hawwww
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cbass 11-Oct-20 07:18 PM
look at the bill, piss boy
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parm 11-Oct-20 07:19 PM
no (edited)
i dont feel like reading
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cbass 11-Oct-20 07:21 PM
but you read my text
small brain pp head
mega has 0 brain confirmed
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parm 11-Oct-20 07:22 PM
chad
imagine having a brain
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cbass 11-Oct-20 07:37 PM
@Dieselkeough talk in here dumbass lfmaoo
anyway, can i put you down for a sig?
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Dieselkeough 11-Oct-20 08:04 PM
already der
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cbass 11-Oct-20 08:06 PM
sick
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 12-Oct-20 12:12 AM
Ay where’s my signature
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Amaaroc 12-Oct-20 12:16 AM
Sign it yourself! Go and edit the document and suggest your signature n the signature edition
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 12-Oct-20 12:18 AM
Ehhh
I’m on mobile
Do I really want to go on the google docs app?
I suppose I could
There
I did it
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cbass 12-Oct-20 04:21 AM
@Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) can i put ya down for a sig?
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 12-Oct-20 08:27 AM
Sig for what
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cbass 12-Oct-20 09:32 AM
yeah
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parm 12-Oct-20 09:34 AM
yuh
oooh
bahh
woop
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 12-Oct-20 10:04 AM
What?
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parm 12-Oct-20 10:04 AM
yuh
ooh
bahh
woop
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 12-Oct-20 10:40 AM
Help I'm scared
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parm 12-Oct-20 10:53 AM
boom bahh waaka ooo
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Sen. Empharius 12-Oct-20 02:21 PM
I'll sign the census bill
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cbass 12-Oct-20 02:22 PM
great!
go ahead and toss it on and ill okay it asap
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Sen. Empharius 12-Oct-20 02:43 PM
You'll have to add it
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Deleted User 12-Oct-20 04:59 PM
@cbass May I sign
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parm 12-Oct-20 05:00 PM
sure ill sign
add muh sig
also vote \for me
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cbass 12-Oct-20 05:14 PM
yessir
that's 7 sigs, so ill be submitting it to whoever wins the election tomorrow
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parm 12-Oct-20 05:18 PM
ok
VOTE FOR ME
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Deleted User 12-Oct-20 08:51 PM
#anyonebutultra
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:11 PM
@Offoss talk here my dude
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Offoss 14-Oct-20 06:12 PM
ok
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EXHALE_T3CHO 14-Oct-20 06:12 PM
do u think this is a good bill
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:12 PM
It's extremely vague
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Offoss 14-Oct-20 06:12 PM
u could change some things but other wise its very good
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EXHALE_T3CHO 14-Oct-20 06:12 PM
ok
just comment what u think should be changed
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 06:13 PM
No condemning of the OE
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:13 PM
why?
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Offoss 14-Oct-20 06:13 PM
wdym
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:13 PM
:fedposterdetected:
@Deleted User why are you so defensive of the OE 👀
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 06:13 PM
I don’t want them as an enemy
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:13 PM
👀
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EXHALE_T3CHO 14-Oct-20 06:13 PM
wait what
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:13 PM
....sure
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 06:13 PM
@Ozy‘s Estate
Bruh
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EXHALE_T3CHO 14-Oct-20 06:14 PM
ohhhhhh
i wrote that in august
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 06:14 PM
Can I not ping Ozys estate
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EXHALE_T3CHO 14-Oct-20 06:14 PM
im very confused
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Offoss 14-Oct-20 06:14 PM
same
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:15 PM
same
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 06:15 PM
We can write all the legislation we want but the OE will ignore it (edited)
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:15 PM
Œ
they should call themselves the Œ
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Amaaroc 14-Oct-20 06:17 PM
I WAS MENTIONED..?
RATHER, WE.
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EXHALE_T3CHO 14-Oct-20 06:17 PM
wait what
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:17 PM
Œ was summoned
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EXHALE_T3CHO 14-Oct-20 06:18 PM
oh shoot
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:18 PM
Œ hurt itself in confusion
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EXHALE_T3CHO 14-Oct-20 06:18 PM
anyways...
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cbass 14-Oct-20 06:18 PM
oh boy
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EXHALE_T3CHO 14-Oct-20 06:18 PM
i want to present this
legislation
whens the next senate floor meeting
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cbass 14-Oct-20 06:19 PM
you gotta get siggies bro
and then submit it to @deleted-role
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EXHALE_T3CHO 14-Oct-20 06:19 PM
exactly
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cbass 14-Oct-20 06:19 PM
not sorry for ping
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Amaaroc 14-Oct-20 06:19 PM
Lmao
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EXHALE_T3CHO 14-Oct-20 06:19 PM
does anyone wanna sign
jack/
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:20 PM
no
maybe jack
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cbass 14-Oct-20 06:20 PM
oh uh
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:20 PM
but not me
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Offoss 14-Oct-20 06:20 PM
i will
i read it
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:20 PM
it's a good idea
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cbass 14-Oct-20 06:20 PM
oh yah
ill sign lol
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:20 PM
but it's not a good plan of action
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cbass 14-Oct-20 06:21 PM
mega: yeah im an anarchist mega: opposes civil rights bill
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 06:21 PM
I’ll read it hold on
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:21 PM
mega: yeah im an anarchist mega: opposes civil rights bill
@cbass the bill is bad
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Amaaroc 14-Oct-20 06:21 PM
Betrayal
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cbass 14-Oct-20 06:21 PM
when did you last get a bill up to vote
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:21 PM
Article 3: More Freedom of Speech for Newspapers and Television Stations.
what does that even mean?
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cbass 14-Oct-20 06:21 PM
weeb
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:21 PM
like
when did you last get a bill up to vote
@cbass idk why ur so defensive over it
it just isn't actionable
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cbass 14-Oct-20 06:21 PM
who cares
i just want something to happen
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Amaaroc 14-Oct-20 06:22 PM
Mega your bill writing skills are worse
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cbass 14-Oct-20 06:22 PM
😳
get fucked (edited)
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EXHALE_T3CHO 14-Oct-20 06:22 PM
what about me
i need good critism
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cbass 14-Oct-20 06:22 PM
it's not great, im gonna be honest
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:22 PM
cope that i use too much big brain words
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EXHALE_T3CHO 14-Oct-20 06:22 PM
yeah
i know
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:22 PM
i need good critism
@EXHALE_T3CHO uh, be more clear
in what you want to do
Mega your bill writing skills are worse
@Amaaroc mine is clear
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EXHALE_T3CHO 14-Oct-20 06:23 PM
ive tried to i cant think
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cbass 14-Oct-20 06:23 PM
when u get the time, i could do a rewrite to show you how to word it all and have like, functional language
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:23 PM
and elaborate
yea
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cbass 14-Oct-20 06:23 PM
not u, i
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EXHALE_T3CHO 14-Oct-20 06:23 PM
ok ill try
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:23 PM
you can't just say more freedom and have it be actioable
like what does it mean
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cbass 14-Oct-20 06:24 PM
@character-confusion shouldn't u critique it here so he can actually reply smh
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:24 PM
Mega your bill writing skills are worse
@Amaaroc cope bitch
keep coping
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EXHALE_T3CHO 14-Oct-20 06:24 PM
@character-confusion actually i took screenshots of the news on that day so
...
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 06:24 PM
Also the OE might force the bill to be taken down
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 06:24 PM
@character-confusion shouldn't u critique it here so he can actually reply smh
@cbass oh sorry
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 06:24 PM
FYI
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:24 PM
tfw
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 06:24 PM
@character-confusion actually i took screenshots of the news on that day so
@EXHALE_T3CHO what news?
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:24 PM
entj
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EXHALE_T3CHO 14-Oct-20 06:24 PM
the news channel
...
..
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 06:24 PM
anyhow i'm not critiquing, i'm just making sure you get facts right
about the poll
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EXHALE_T3CHO 14-Oct-20 06:25 PM
i did ge it right
get
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 06:25 PM
?
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cbass 14-Oct-20 06:25 PM
it's super old though
like it's just outdated
that's what they're saying
👆 1
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EXHALE_T3CHO 14-Oct-20 06:25 PM
yeah i meant to change it
so i will
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 06:25 PM
Poll of the PAR
>
Do you approve of Patrium? Approve: 9% Disapprove: 76% Neutral: 15%
>
Do you approve of the Patrian government? Approve: 3% Disapprove: 91% Neutral: 6%
> this? was only among pre-integration Thuzis, not in patrium
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cbass 14-Oct-20 06:25 PM
yeah you wanna update your bills as much as possible before you submit it because boy oh boy
piranhas
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 06:29 PM
Any form of propaganda recruiting militias, terrorists, or any group of organisation who seeks to overthrow the government will be banned.
time to ban mega's party troll
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:30 PM
troll
My party doesn't explicitly seek to overthrow the govt anymore
the revolution is a more metaphorical term
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Offoss 14-Oct-20 06:31 PM
and when i do this can we do it earlier in the day lik 5 to 6
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:31 PM
as in social/cultural revolution, not violent revolt
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 06:31 PM
cuck
cultural revolution??? maoism
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cbass 14-Oct-20 06:32 PM
mega is anarcho maoist confirmed
gigachad 4
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:32 PM
chad
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 06:33 PM
gigachad ❤️ gigachad
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:33 PM
cuck
@character-confusion are...are you saying that the NLF and MLF were reformist the whole time?
🤮
(we just wanna be legal smh)
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Offoss 14-Oct-20 06:33 PM
@EXHALE_T3CHO CAN U SIGN FOR ME IT WONT LET ME ON THE DOCS
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cbass 14-Oct-20 06:33 PM
MLF never took an official stance dumbass
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 06:33 PM
remember s1 when all the leftist groups were just highkey accelerationist?
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:33 PM
I miss
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EXHALE_T3CHO 14-Oct-20 06:33 PM
OK
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 06:34 PM
exhale really do remove the old stats tho
it's misleading
also a bit incorrect
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cbass 14-Oct-20 06:34 PM
the MLF literally never endorsed anything, save if someone from the MLF had a bill up
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:34 PM
my biggest mistake was not pushing you to support a worker revolution, character
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 06:34 PM
since they aren't for all of patrium
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:34 PM
cuck wanted to keep the senate
actual bruh moment
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 06:34 PM
my biggest mistake was not pushing you to support a worker revolution, character
@parm we wanted a revolution...we wanted the NLF to be a vanguard party and push all the other parties out
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:34 PM
LIBSOCS HAD THE CHANCE
@parm we wanted a revolution...we wanted the NLF to be a vanguard party and push all the other parties out
@character-confusion s1
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 06:34 PM
well we did didn't we?
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:34 PM
like civl war
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 06:35 PM
cause all the rightists were traitors and all the authlefts were cucks
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:35 PM
No...we were the loyalists
I wanted to establish an anarchist Patrium
not preserve the old patrium
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 06:35 PM
well smh if your'e the only ones left in the senate then why give up ligitimacy?
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:35 PM
you literally gave legitimacy to the lolberts in the Confed
we shoulda had no compromises
on it
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 06:35 PM
i never liked the confederatio
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:36 PM
same
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 06:36 PM
smh
yeah that was some NAM bullshit
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:36 PM
yup
we cucked hard
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 06:36 PM
we did
also the NAM was lowkey working with the junta anyway
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:37 PM
yea
muh WhY cAnT yU lEt tHe jUnTa in
fucking juntard sympathizers
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 06:37 PM
guys guys we're just voting on junta laws and helping them write their constitution
we're not allied with them
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:37 PM
god i miss that tho
tbf they did write the confed constitution
shut billy
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 06:38 PM
i want to punch nam's face in the face
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 06:38 PM
we all did
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:38 PM
ok nvm
yea
fuck them
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 06:38 PM
we had a whole server dedicated to gathering evidence against them
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:38 PM
triangulating ass pussies
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 06:38 PM
being non aligned in a civil war is a side
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 06:38 PM
tbf they did write the confed constitution
@parm yeah i told you the confederation was all their idea
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 06:38 PM
there is no neutral
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 06:39 PM
yeah
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:39 PM
yep
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 06:39 PM
the side of fucking cucked-ass pussies
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:39 PM
^
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 06:39 PM
who run and hide at the first sign of trouble instead of defend their people or anything
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:39 PM
wait what if they were just big braining
so that they could take over both
sides entj
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 06:39 PM
well they were playing the field
leaving optinos open
to join up with whoever won
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:39 PM
I mean, they were writing both laws
so
troll
we're just coping
they big brains
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 06:40 PM
well if we'd won i would have btfo'ed them
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:40 PM
also none of them got charged afaij
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 06:40 PM
i hope billy would have done the same
but those trials were a joke
they were just closure for the senate and junta
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:40 PM
If we'd won, I woulda advocated for socialist patrium
yeo
yep
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 06:40 PM
and since the NAM did nothing, they didn't need it
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parm 14-Oct-20 06:40 PM
and then they reset the server anyways
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 14-Oct-20 07:16 PM
Ehh, I was fine with NAM
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 14-Oct-20 07:30 PM
guys guys we're just voting on junta laws and helping them write their constitution
@character-confusion Pretty sure we voted in both sides Cope.
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 07:34 PM
Pretty sure you weren’t in the senate server
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 14-Oct-20 07:36 PM
It was either constitution or senate
Do you still have the senate server
I can search for my messages if there are any
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Dieselkeough 14-Oct-20 07:49 PM
actually we didnt like the junta either
and were actively rejecting their stuff
honestly, at one point we considered just being 100% independant
but the confed was actually my idea, and i proposed it initially as the constitution for an independant NAM
it was generally approved for NAM, and so i was like, why not throw it out for evveryone else as well.
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 14-Oct-20 07:51 PM
I sent the screenies
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Dieselkeough 14-Oct-20 07:51 PM
we actually didnt work with the junta. i dont think we even messed with their constitution if i recall
we just decided to go with a more defensive war, as it was WAAY more advantageous for us to do.
with our terrain, we would have easily won a defensive war
along with the naval configuration i set up
so that we can monitor naval movements around our area so that we can easily mobilise our forces to prepare for an attack from any direction
our main focus was on intel and planning ahead, focusing on building fortifications all around the island
our research was mainly focused on submarines and artillery. better reconnaissance and stealth, as well as faster and more accurate artillary.
our main side in the end if the junta won would have been pursuing an independant atlas island
if the senate won, there was and active debate on if we should join yall or not.
and there was no real consensus
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 08:00 PM
We probably would’ve blockaded you if you went independent
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Dieselkeough 14-Oct-20 08:00 PM
the thing is though
we prepared for that
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 08:00 PM
The thing is though, we had an air craft carrier (edited)
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Dieselkeough 14-Oct-20 08:00 PM
and we actually invested a ton into naval forces because we prepared
yeah, and we figured you would fight with the others, so your capital ship would have fallenn
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 08:01 PM
What’s the fun of doing a civil war if you weren’t gonna fight
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Dieselkeough 14-Oct-20 08:01 PM
it was our role to be the area for refugees to flock to
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 08:01 PM
Also there’s a way for this season to go into a civil war, but idk if I should say
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Dieselkeough 14-Oct-20 08:01 PM
we would fight only if needed if we were attacked
and also we watched the areas all around our so we knew the naval movements of basically the entire north (edited)
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 08:02 PM
@Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) you guys were in the military server, not the actual senate server
Both still exist, I left them tho
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Dieselkeough 14-Oct-20 08:04 PM
we invested most of our resources into naval fleets, as it was more valuble to have than ground forces, though we invested some
we did have a flag ship, a lil old cruiser
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 14-Oct-20 08:06 PM
The thing is though, we had an air craft carrier
@Deleted User an aircraft carrier is powerless with the aircrafts
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Dieselkeough 14-Oct-20 08:06 PM
also, you would have likely lost it in a naval battle due to it being a key ship
maybe some kamakaze shenanigans
we did get along well with the knights templar if i remember tho (edited)
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 14-Oct-20 08:08 PM
You must be dumb, stupid or both to think that an aircraft carrier can fight on the frontline of any naval battle
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Dieselkeough 14-Oct-20 08:08 PM
i am referring to it being targetted
compared to other ships
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parm 14-Oct-20 08:08 PM
I wouldn't be too unhappy with a civil war this season
commie patrium
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Dieselkeough 14-Oct-20 08:09 PM
NAM 2.0
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parm 14-Oct-20 08:10 PM
fuck you
NAM was unironically my least favorite faction
at least the Juntards were honest about being power-hungry assholes
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Dieselkeough 14-Oct-20 08:11 PM
we werent power hungry tbh
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parm 14-Oct-20 08:11 PM
the Jacobins and 5PP were honest about being retards
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Dieselkeough 14-Oct-20 08:11 PM
we just wanted to be left alone
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parm 14-Oct-20 08:11 PM
and the MMR was just cray
we just wanted to be left alone
@Dieselkeough by meddling in the affairs of both sides
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Dieselkeough 14-Oct-20 08:11 PM
thats literally it
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parm 14-Oct-20 08:11 PM
troll
Y'all forced the Senate into the Confa
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Dieselkeough 14-Oct-20 08:12 PM
i meann we didnt force them
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parm 14-Oct-20 08:12 PM
and you guys actively voted on Junta legislation
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Dieselkeough 14-Oct-20 08:12 PM
i just suggested the idea to them
and i dont think we did
if we did it wasnt officcial
probably one outlier
one guy we suspected was working for the junta, so we wouldnt let them see like the important stuff like naval plans and all that
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 14-Oct-20 08:13 PM
Nah, Civil War 2 will be us fighting on the same side
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parm 14-Oct-20 08:13 PM
also y'all's superiority complex
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Dieselkeough 14-Oct-20 08:13 PM
not really.
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parm 14-Oct-20 08:13 PM
Nah, Civil War 2 will be us fighting on the same side
@Dr. Kris Lawrence who?
mfw
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Dieselkeough 14-Oct-20 08:13 PM
we just vibed.
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 14-Oct-20 08:14 PM
@Dr. Kris Lawrence who?
@parm the entire senate
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parm 14-Oct-20 08:14 PM
against?
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Dieselkeough 14-Oct-20 08:14 PM
apost
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parm 14-Oct-20 08:14 PM
troll
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 14-Oct-20 08:14 PM
against?
@parm who knows
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Dieselkeough 14-Oct-20 08:14 PM
just apost, nobody else
he will be e n d e d
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parm 14-Oct-20 08:14 PM
then it's just an insurgency tbh
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 14-Oct-20 08:14 PM
Anyways, Fortress Darseny part 2 time
idk, the pres?
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parm 14-Oct-20 08:14 PM
i think a senatorialist–presidentialist conhlict is likely
goddamn it u stile me idea
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Dieselkeough 14-Oct-20 08:15 PM
honestly, maween will prob side with pres
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parm 14-Oct-20 08:15 PM
unbased
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Dieselkeough 14-Oct-20 08:15 PM
depending on what happens
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parm 14-Oct-20 08:15 PM
LONG LIVE THE SENATE
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Dieselkeough 14-Oct-20 08:15 PM
rn she sees the entire senate as immoral and foolish (edited)
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parm 14-Oct-20 08:15 PM
but i really could see a senate/president fight
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Dieselkeough 14-Oct-20 08:15 PM
she sees the president as at least rational
also the thuzis will prob seperate from patrium
in a civil war
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 14-Oct-20 08:17 PM
The president has the military, but the senate has the people after seeing that the pres try to coup
Probably
I hope
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 08:29 PM
The senate doesn’t have the people per se
Not 100%
also to be based I’d side with the president maybe
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parm 14-Oct-20 08:58 PM
@EXHALE_T3CHO I made an improved version of your bill
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cbass 14-Oct-20 08:58 PM
@parm why'd you copy him
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parm 14-Oct-20 08:58 PM
would you like credit
im literally asking for credit
@parm why'd you copy him
@cbass I liked his idea, but not his bill
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cbass 14-Oct-20 08:58 PM
you copied him smh
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parm 14-Oct-20 08:59 PM
also it has more than freedom of expression
i didn't want to put his name on without his permission but i will give credit if he wants
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:00 PM
imagine being mega and not being able to write your own bill smh
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:00 PM
I did
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:00 PM
could never be me
no u didn't
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:00 PM
yk what fuck you
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:00 PM
copied him smhhhh
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:01 PM
The people shall have the right and duty to bear arms in order to defend themselves, their community, and the Republic. The Government of Patrium may only restrict this right in a reasonable manner that is purely conducive to public safety.
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The people shall have a right to petition the Government for the redress of their concerns and complaints. Any petition reaching enough signatures, as defined by law, shall be brought to the attention of the Senate or to a vote.
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Discrimination of any kind on the basis of race, color, ethnicity, sexual identity, sexual orientation, gender identity, national origin, type of citizenship, class, creed, ability, or wealth shall be prohibited, whether it is by the government, private individuals, or any other entity.
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The absence of any freedom or right shall not be construed as license to infringe upon them; the powers not prohibited from the Government must be used prudently and carefully.
was any of this in his bill u retard
NONE of that was in his bill
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:01 PM
mega angyyyyy
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:01 PM
well, i had a shit day and you being a fucking asshole doesn;t help
so yes fuck you
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:02 PM
c'est la vie
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:02 PM
je ne parle pas la langue de baguette
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Amaaroc 14-Oct-20 09:02 PM
Ohhh my god
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:02 PM
imagine responding in french to a stolen french expression used in english regularly lol
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Sen. Empharius 14-Oct-20 09:02 PM
I'm not too into the freedom of speech bit, but I like the rest of it
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:03 PM
Ohhh my god
@Amaaroc what?
I'm not too into the freedom of speech bit, but I like the rest of it
@Sen. Empharius mfw
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Amaaroc 14-Oct-20 09:03 PM
When ur vibing with ur lover and u come to this
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:03 PM
this isn't too bad
compared to memes in general
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Amaaroc 14-Oct-20 09:03 PM
This is gonna be another pissing match
I can sense it
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:03 PM
entj
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:03 PM
im a better pisser than anyone here 😳
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:04 PM
I have urethral problems untroll
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Sen. Empharius 14-Oct-20 09:04 PM
I'll sign if you clarify that the freedom of speech does not mean that every platform has to host you on it
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:04 PM
I have urethral problems untroll
@parm HAHHAAHAHAHAHAHA BRO FUCKING FAT RIP DAWG
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:04 PM
I'll sign if you clarify that the freedom of speech does not mean that every platform has to host you on it
@Sen. Empharius the bill prohibits government intervention
@parm HAHHAAHAHAHAHAHA BRO FUCKING FAT RIP DAWG
@cbass yes
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:04 PM
in context that might be the funniest shit ive ever seen
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:04 PM
i was hospitalized only once in my life
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:04 PM
like if u just dropped that, not funny
it in context
oml
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:05 PM
and it was for the urethral problems
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Sen. Empharius 14-Oct-20 09:05 PM
as in, it wouldnt make it illegal to ban Nazis on social media platforms
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:05 PM
nah it's funny either way
it wouldn't
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Sen. Empharius 14-Oct-20 09:05 PM
Under the bill it is still legal to ban Nazis from social media
which is good
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:05 PM
yes
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Sen. Empharius 14-Oct-20 09:05 PM
I just want that stated explicitally, since otherwise people might misconstrue it
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:06 PM
it only prohibits the government from banning non-libelous or hazardous speech
om
ok
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Sen. Empharius 14-Oct-20 09:06 PM
thanks
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:06 PM
ok i added
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Sen. Empharius 14-Oct-20 09:07 PM
I'm signing
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:07 PM
@Sen. Empharius what was ur previous pfp
just curious
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Sen. Empharius 14-Oct-20 09:07 PM
it was a left unity symbol
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:07 PM
ahh
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 14-Oct-20 09:24 PM
it only prohibits the government from banning non-libelous or hazardous speech
@parm r we banning communists now? troll
Unironically tho TPO is pro-free speech
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:25 PM
ok then sign my dude
chad
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 14-Oct-20 09:25 PM
Nah
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 09:26 PM
hm mega creating a senate-controlled supreme court under his own laws.
fascinating
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 14-Oct-20 09:26 PM
It sets a dangerous precedent to ban political opposition
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:26 PM
troll
hm mega creating a senate-controlled supreme court under his own laws.
@character-confusion (nobody said it wasn't intenional)
entj
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 09:26 PM
mmhm
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Jeb 14-Oct-20 09:26 PM
It sets a dangerous precedent to ban political opposition
excuse me but could you remind me of your party ideologies
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:26 PM
^
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Jeb 14-Oct-20 09:26 PM
and what they have done in the recent years
:)
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 14-Oct-20 09:26 PM
Nah bro
TPO is pro free speech
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:27 PM
this bill can ban capitalism now troll
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 14-Oct-20 09:27 PM
Why did I let the bill that recalled me pass?
Pepe_Laugh 2
chad 2
And I didn't veto any bills :wholsm:
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:28 PM
@character-confusion lol just smack the shit out of his approval
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:29 PM
how would human rights lower my approval
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 14-Oct-20 09:29 PM
Me explaining how freedom of speech is antithetical to authoritarianism and not revisionism
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:29 PM
fine, i'll make the tribunal only able to veto senate legislation
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:29 PM
I just skimmed the legislation
I’ll read in depth
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 09:29 PM
fine, i'll make the tribunal only able to veto senate legislation
@parm that's all the legislation
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 14-Oct-20 09:29 PM
Cuz u see the worst thing you can have in an authoritarian state
Is corruption
And you can't root out corruption without letting people openly criticize the government
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 09:30 PM
anyhow, i'm just observing, not advising
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:30 PM
@parm that's all the legislation
@character-confusion yes
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 09:30 PM
And you can't root out corruption without letting people openly criticize the government
@Big Brother (Clement2022) hundred flowers moment
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:30 PM
and too many governments
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:30 PM
it's essentially just supposed to be a "u sure?" on the senate
nothing wrong with that
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 09:30 PM
mmhm
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:31 PM
no me gusta
we have the SS and the President for that
cut it
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:31 PM
how to fiz my dude
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:31 PM
it makes the whole system redundant
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:32 PM
not really
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:32 PM
just another hurdle between now and actual change
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:32 PM
the Tribunal only rules on cases of human rights
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:32 PM
it's like making an already tall speed bump taller
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Jeb 14-Oct-20 09:32 PM
the president is cringe
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:32 PM
essentially the rights outlines
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Jeb 14-Oct-20 09:32 PM
change my mind
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:32 PM
^
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:32 PM
pointless and a waste of concrete
yeah, but there's literally nothing we can do about that
so
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:32 PM
(tryna chip away at the prez rn)
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:32 PM
The Government of Patrium may only restrict this right in a reasonable manner that is purely conducive to public safety. what does reasonable manner mean
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:33 PM
BRUH
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Jeb 14-Oct-20 09:33 PM
it means gun licenses troll
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:33 PM
i didn't even read the bill and you put that shit in there? smhhhhh
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:33 PM
The Government of Patrium may only restrict this right in a reasonable manner that is purely conducive to public safety.
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what does reasonable manner mean
@Deleted User uhhhh
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:33 PM
the tribunal shouldnt be able to strike down legislation
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:33 PM
good point
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:33 PM
im removing my signature
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:33 PM
big win
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:33 PM
unless this is fixed
keep it there
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:33 PM
another win for the MMP
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:33 PM
for now
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:33 PM
fine
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:33 PM
the tribunal should only be a finger wagging institution
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:34 PM
the trib is now purely advisory
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:34 PM
like are you sure you wanna do this
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:34 PM
it can condemn legislation
yea
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:34 PM
of you... did it anyways... oh... well that sucks
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 09:34 PM
the Tribunal only rules on cases of human rights
@parm but it's just random stuff you're writing that you consider human rights 🤷‍♂️
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:34 PM
@parm but it's just random stuff you're writing that you consider human rights 🤷‍♂️
@character-confusion mfw
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:34 PM
this is why im not signing lmfaoo
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:34 PM
do you not consider freedom of speech or gun rifhts human rights
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:34 PM
i haven't even read it and it's getting torn to shreds already
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:35 PM
what
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 09:35 PM
do you not consider freedom of speech or gun rifhts human rights
@parm again, just stuff you feel like including
not an actual definition
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:35 PM
^
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 09:35 PM
you're basically re-writing the bill of rights but as legislation somehow
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:35 PM
yes
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:35 PM
i could withhold from voting until its a better bill
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:35 PM
it's an advisory body
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:35 PM
do it
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:35 PM
suggest improvements
pleae
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 09:35 PM
it's an advisory body
@parm with executive veto power
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:36 PM
@parm with executive veto power
@character-confusion removed
just finger-wagging
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:36 PM
why did you quote that
unnecessary ping
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:36 PM
what
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:36 PM
nvm
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:37 PM
can someone help me thing of a way to make the tribunal abbreviate to TIT
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:37 PM
mfw jack can't find any criticism in a bill that literally says "More Freedom For Press" without elaboration, but can withhold his vote for a finger-wagging body
mfw
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:37 PM
yes
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 09:37 PM
mfw jack can't find any criticism in a bill that literally says "More Freedom For Press" without elaboration, but can withhold his vote for a finger-wagging body
@parm i mean he criticized it a bunch
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:38 PM
which bill
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:38 PM
techo's
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:38 PM
cause one i just rode off the criticisms everyone else dropped
wasn't asking u mega
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 09:38 PM
so it's a whole gov't organization dedicated to saying "we don't like this bill"?
like the ACLU
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:38 PM
yep
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 09:38 PM
but with tax dollars
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:38 PM
bruh
tf
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:39 PM
Discrimination of any kind on the basis of race, color, ethnicity, sexual identity, sexual orientation, gender identity, national origin, type of citizenship, class, creed, ability, or wealth shall be prohibited, whether it is by the government, private individuals, or any other entity. Wealth: we aren't going to serve you because you can't pay for this service
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 09:39 PM
lmao
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:39 PM
lmfao
chad
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Sen. Empharius 14-Oct-20 09:39 PM
Based
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:39 PM
what if i rush a bill through to use up the rest of the available budget, forcing you to raise taxes 😳
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:39 PM
Discrimination of any kind on the basis of race, color, ethnicity, sexual identity, sexual orientation, gender identity, national origin, type of citizenship, class, creed, ability, or wealth shall be prohibited, whether it is by the government, private individuals, or any other entity.
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Wealth: we aren't going to serve you because you can't pay for this service
@Deleted User they can't discriminate purely on how much money you have
they can charge you
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:39 PM
we should demand all businesses discriminate
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 09:39 PM
now, how much money they pay you, that's fine
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:40 PM
BITCH BOTH THE RIGHTOIDS AND THE LEFTIES
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 09:40 PM
we should demand all businesses discriminate
@Deleted User accelerationist time
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:40 PM
all businesses must discriminate against one group
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 14-Oct-20 09:40 PM
This bill is hella cringe
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:40 PM
NOOOOOO
boohooo
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 14-Oct-20 09:40 PM
No one is gonna stop me from discriminating against Thuzis
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:40 PM
Thuzis arent people
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:40 PM
all businesses must discriminate against one group
@Deleted User i nominate the gays
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:40 PM
can we add a thuzi clause
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 09:40 PM
smh it's not discrimiation if there's a basis for it
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:40 PM
wojak_cry
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:40 PM
that discrimination against them is legal
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:40 PM
bruh
no
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:40 PM
do it pussy
ill sign if you do it
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 09:41 PM
billy writes an opposing bill
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:41 PM
wojak_cry
stg
fuck this shit man
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:41 PM
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:41 PM
yeeesssssss
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:41 PM
I just want human rights and billy wants to destroy the thuzis and jack wants to destroy the big gay
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:42 PM
yeah fuck the gays
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Amaaroc 14-Oct-20 09:42 PM
Homo
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:42 PM
my character is canonically a homosexual
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:42 PM
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOO
gigachad 4
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:42 PM
HAHAH HE ADDED IT
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 09:42 PM
god i miss when everyone was violently nationalist
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Sen. Empharius 14-Oct-20 09:43 PM
Didnt we abolish the Thuzi race?
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:43 PM
PNP ratings now skyrocket to 9.9
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:43 PM
my character is canonically a homosexual
@cbass lmfaoooo
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Sen. Empharius 14-Oct-20 09:43 PM
Its Thuzi-Patri now I think
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:43 PM
troll
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:43 PM
shut
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someguyinshorts 14-Oct-20 09:43 PM
Nah, we just renamed it
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:43 PM
oh wait
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:43 PM
time to add a 5.2
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:43 PM
big braij
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Sen. Empharius 14-Oct-20 09:43 PM
Also, please remove my signiture if your adding that part
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:43 PM
fucking big brain
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someguyinshorts 14-Oct-20 09:44 PM
Speaking of which, expect some hard changes coming out of the PAR, because that still exists
Probably
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:44 PM
uh oh
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:44 PM
oh yeah you have an extra $2 billion to work with
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someguyinshorts 14-Oct-20 09:44 PM
Idk, haven’t gotten a definitive number on my approval rating post 180
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:44 PM
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 09:44 PM
Its Thuzi-Patri now I think
@Sen. Empharius only for the PAR people
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:44 PM
FUCK
NOOOO
boohooo
FUCK
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Dieselkeough 14-Oct-20 09:45 PM
we shall oppose this bill.
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someguyinshorts 14-Oct-20 09:45 PM
Thanks, but I woulda preferred 20 billion
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:45 PM
if you dont do this i will block the bill
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:45 PM
i did my best homie
bitch and ill take it away
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Dieselkeough 14-Oct-20 09:45 PM
there are several deal breakers which we cannot support
nobility for example.
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:45 PM
get rid of the asterisk
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Dieselkeough 14-Oct-20 09:45 PM
as well as guns
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 14-Oct-20 09:45 PM
Unironically tho this bill is cringe
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:45 PM
Now
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:45 PM
NOW
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Amaaroc 14-Oct-20 09:45 PM
Hmmm blocks bill
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:45 PM
it has the sigs...
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:45 PM
NOOOOO
FUCKK
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:45 PM
im getting rid of mine
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someguyinshorts 14-Oct-20 09:45 PM
2 billion dollars can barelet afford a fucking one time deal at McDonald’s
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:46 PM
I CANT EVEN
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:46 PM
bill to ban mega from patrium
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someguyinshorts 14-Oct-20 09:46 PM
You shoulda tried harder
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:46 PM
this bill is too cringe
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:46 PM
BITCHES WaNNA baN THUZI RIFHTS
WHAT THE FUCK
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:46 PM
Yeah and?
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:46 PM
unironic bruh moment
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:46 PM
@someguyinshorts oh boy the PAR is gonna feel it in a minute, piss boy
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Dieselkeough 14-Oct-20 09:46 PM
senator beifong, they wiill abolish all titles of nobility
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:47 PM
nobility is cringe
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Sen. Empharius 14-Oct-20 09:47 PM
@parm please just remove the racsim but
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:47 PM
removed the asterisk dude
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:47 PM
its all the british anyways
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:47 PM
nobility is cringe
fuck the british
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:47 PM
i removed my signature
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:47 PM
king
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:47 PM
theres too many flaws with the bill
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:47 PM
fuck
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Dieselkeough 14-Oct-20 09:47 PM
to be frank, you ARE a minarcho monarch
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 14-Oct-20 09:47 PM
Well I'm more concerned about policing discrimination of individuals
What I mean by that
Is people are allowed to think on their own
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 09:47 PM
smh it's not racism
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:47 PM
he's right lmfao
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 09:47 PM
it's national interests
thuzis aren't a race
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:48 PM
thuzis are a plague
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:48 PM
just a shit stain
oh that works too
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someguyinshorts 14-Oct-20 09:48 PM
Tbf I don’t like the bill myself, I just think it’ll be popular lol
Gotta bums those ratings if ya feel me
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:48 PM
thats what i was thinking
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:48 PM
shorts trust me mate, ill find another way for ya
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:48 PM
but most people here hate it
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:49 PM
this bill is garbage
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:49 PM
tfw billy cares more about racism than approval
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Dieselkeough 14-Oct-20 09:49 PM
i shall oppose this as well.
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:49 PM
Yes.
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:49 PM
unironic opinion: this bill is shit
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:49 PM
only the OGs understand the thuzi hate
true 3
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:49 PM
FUCK IM GETTING HEAT FROM ALL SIDES
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:49 PM
also can we get a propaganda channel please
i wanna post thuzi shit
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:49 PM
#the-news
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:49 PM
i mean like a channel for images only
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someguyinshorts 14-Oct-20 09:49 PM
Yeah about that
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:50 PM
@Deleted User put it up for a vote bitch boy
seven sigs
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:50 PM
don't do it
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:50 PM
we could just all vote against it...
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:50 PM
no guarantee
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:50 PM
>minarchist >opposes civil rights
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:50 PM
if you veto it
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:50 PM
the thing is... is it worth the risk to veto
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:50 PM
i will vote for you in the next election
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:50 PM
i want a second term
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:50 PM
tfw
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:50 PM
100% exclusively roo
too*
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:51 PM
jack retard confirm
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Dieselkeough 14-Oct-20 09:51 PM
you can easily just not bring it to the stand at all.
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:51 PM
do it bitch boy do it
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Dieselkeough 14-Oct-20 09:51 PM
i dont think that will affect popularity if you just donnt bring it up
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:51 PM
y'all bitches be complaining about approval
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 14-Oct-20 09:51 PM
@parm smh u need to start off slow
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:51 PM
let me do a senate seat count before putting this up
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 09:51 PM
i dont think that will affect popularity if you just donnt bring it up
@Dieselkeough mitch mcconnell moment
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 14-Oct-20 09:51 PM
Like I would support preventing government discrimination of religion/sex
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:51 PM
we should allow discrimination based only on sex
the Patrian people are tired of women
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:52 PM
mfw
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someguyinshorts 14-Oct-20 09:52 PM
Tbf I only dislike the whole policing bit, it would be best as a sorta guideline, let lawyers and citizen arrestees do the handiwork
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 14-Oct-20 09:52 PM
Hey
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:52 PM
yep
Tbf I only dislike the whole policing bit, it would be best as a sorta guideline, let lawyers and citizen arrestees do the handiwork
@someguyinshorts wdym?
the Trib is an advisory
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 14-Oct-20 09:52 PM
I dont wanna be discriminating against our head general here troll
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someguyinshorts 14-Oct-20 09:52 PM
The entire second half of the bill
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:52 PM
troll
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someguyinshorts 14-Oct-20 09:52 PM
Even as advisory
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 14-Oct-20 09:52 PM
Speaking of citizen arrestees
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:52 PM
oh lord
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 14-Oct-20 09:52 PM
I now support community policing
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Dieselkeough 14-Oct-20 09:53 PM
let the state handle policing
//ic of ccourse
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:53 PM
nigga be doing a mitch mcconell
oml the PNP = GOP
fucking hell
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 09:53 PM
All persons have the right to freely express oneself, associate or assemble with others, or believe in anything, as long as it is done in a peaceful manner, without harming others. The Government of Patrium shall be prohibited from restricting these rights when exercised in a truthful manner that doesn’t harm others.
how do you plan to enforce this?
The people shall have a right to petition the Government for the redress of their concerns and complaints. Any petition reaching enough signatures, as defined by law, shall be brought to the attention of the Senate or to a vote.
this seems vague
The absence of any freedom or right shall not be construed as license to infringe upon them; the powers not prohibited from the Government must be used prudently and carefully.
well that doesn't really mean much
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 14-Oct-20 09:53 PM
Hey
Indians aren't allowed to say the n word
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someguyinshorts 14-Oct-20 09:53 PM
I’m for state policing but you really think some nannyshit like this will invoke national unity? I’m just here for the ratings
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 14-Oct-20 09:53 PM
I don't think
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:54 PM
whipped up an alternative rq
Discrimination Act The government shall pass no law validating or condoning the discrimination of people within the borders of Patrium on the basis of sex, religion, or ethnic background/race. Signatures: Sen. Beifong, MMP
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someguyinshorts 14-Oct-20 09:54 PM
Speaking of which ANY MODS IN THE AUDIENCE, POLL THAT SHIT
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:54 PM
oh wait
this is the laziest bill i have ever written, tbh
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:54 PM
how do you plan to enforce this? this seems vague well that doesn't really mean much
@character-confusion 1) senate forbidden from passing laws that would restict it 2) it's supposed to be vague, essentially legitimizes petitions 3) it doesn't, this is a symbolic clause
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 14-Oct-20 09:54 PM
Anyways since it's almost midnight, I'll head off for tonight, cya
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:54 PM
but i just want to see megas bill dead because there's So many flaws
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:55 PM
but i just want to see megas bill dead because there's So many flaws
@cbass COMPILE THEM NIGGA
I WILL REMOVE THE TRIB
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:55 PM
no
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:55 PM
FUCK YOU
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someguyinshorts 14-Oct-20 09:55 PM
Yeaaaah I’m just gonna remove my sig
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:55 PM
ill just veto it by writing a better one
lol
2 e z
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:55 PM
Yeaaaah I’m just gonna remove my sig
@someguyinshorts bruh
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:55 PM
ive signed the discrimination act
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someguyinshorts 14-Oct-20 09:55 PM
I like my shit clear, conscience, and pro gov
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Dieselkeough 14-Oct-20 09:55 PM
PADRE supports 1 and 5. but thats it.
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:55 PM
BITCH
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someguyinshorts 14-Oct-20 09:55 PM
Pro nat*
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:55 PM
BRUH
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 09:55 PM
lmao jack took 2 lines
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:55 PM
FUCKING HELL
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:56 PM
the discrimination act is better
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:56 PM
thanks y'all, im here all night
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:56 PM
i thought u wanted thuzi discrimination
mfw
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:56 PM
that was ironic lmfao
😭 1
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:56 PM
y'all be sending mixed ass signals
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:56 PM
twas but a joke
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:56 PM
bitch ass nigga took off his sig over that
talking to bily
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:57 PM
i took it off cause i read the room
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:57 PM
there are no rules after 10pm
anyway shorts how's my bill lookin bro
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someguyinshorts 14-Oct-20 09:57 PM
Ok yeah 1, 3, and part of 5 is why I stuck around, rest is trash tbh.
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:58 PM
can i remove section 2
the tribunal
is that good for you people
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 09:58 PM
also jack name your document smh
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someguyinshorts 14-Oct-20 09:58 PM
I say part of 5 because nothing brings a nation together than some good ol fashion majoritarianism, but I can concede that for now
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 09:58 PM
majoritarianism?
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:58 PM
also jack name your document smh
@character-confusion HAHA I DIDNT EVEN SAVE IT
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someguyinshorts 14-Oct-20 09:58 PM
As for jacks bill, just add some right to bear arm shit and inalienable rights and your gold, won’t need more
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:58 PM
okay it's named now
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 09:59 PM
@character-confusion HAHA I DIDNT EVEN SAVE IT
@cbass it autosaves dummie smh
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:59 PM
bear arms is good
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:59 PM
ill add it to a separate bill shorts
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parm 14-Oct-20 09:59 PM
fuck this im out
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:59 PM
bye mega
anyway
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someguyinshorts 14-Oct-20 09:59 PM
Adios
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:59 PM
should i veto megas bill?
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:59 PM
just because that's a bit more complex and we need something in the table now
on*
yes
sign my bill instead
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 09:59 PM
i signed yours
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cbass 14-Oct-20 09:59 PM
sick
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 10:00 PM
should i veto megas bill?
@Deleted User i think he might have withdrawn it?
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Deleted User 14-Oct-20 10:00 PM
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cbass 14-Oct-20 10:00 PM
oooof
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 10:00 PM
BRUH
#ooc-general
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cbass 14-Oct-20 10:16 PM
@Senator Morshu Ferrok sign mine
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 14-Oct-20 10:16 PM
Hmm
Done
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 14-Oct-20 10:53 PM
Freedom of speech, not freedom from suicide via three gunshots to the back of the head
troll
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character-confusion 14-Oct-20 10:57 PM
"i will guarantee freedom of speech. i will not, however, guarantee freedom after speech"
or something like that
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 14-Oct-20 10:57 PM
yes
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 14-Oct-20 10:58 PM
:falsefalse:
One of quarkism's core tenets is freedom of speech
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 14-Oct-20 10:58 PM
Yes
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 14-Oct-20 10:58 PM
(lmao Burgundian Quarkist party)
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 14-Oct-20 10:58 PM
Freedom of speech but with Newspeak only
troll
That way they can only say things the state likes
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Deleted User 20-Oct-20 12:52 PM
Security Committee Clarification Act, 2020 Introduced by the Security Committee Whereas the Security Committee is unable to investigate violence against Senators effectively as of now; Be the following enacted by the Senate of Patrium: SECTION 1: SUMMARY This Act will clari...
i need one more
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Sen. Empharius 20-Oct-20 01:41 PM
@parm how does this compare to our current tax system?
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parm 20-Oct-20 01:41 PM
essentially it is sipler and more progressive overall
50% of citzens don't even pay tax
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Deleted User 20-Oct-20 01:42 PM
Add a national tax day
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parm 20-Oct-20 01:42 PM
they actually recieve money from the government
yes
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Sen. Empharius 20-Oct-20 01:42 PM
that seems like itll cost us alot of money
you cant make it an exponential curve instead of a liner one for the positive side?
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parm 20-Oct-20 01:43 PM
that seems like itll cost us alot of money
@Sen. Empharius it wont
it actually makes moneu
currently we make 65 billion dollars
my proposal makes around 75 billion dollars
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Sen. Empharius 20-Oct-20 01:44 PM
huh
I'll sign then
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parm 20-Oct-20 01:44 PM
also a non-linear curve would require tax returns to exist
while this is just direcy
reducing fraud
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Sen. Empharius 20-Oct-20 01:47 PM
okay
add my signiture
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parm 20-Oct-20 01:48 PM
thx
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cbass 20-Oct-20 02:07 PM
hurt that you're killing my tax plan
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parm 20-Oct-20 02:07 PM
sorry bro
no hate ❤️
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cbass 20-Oct-20 02:08 PM
it's totally hate
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parm 20-Oct-20 02:08 PM
🤷
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Deleted User 20-Oct-20 02:09 PM
We need sunset clauses smh
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parm 20-Oct-20 02:10 PM
^
actually a good idea
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character-confusion 20-Oct-20 02:11 PM
fun fact: patrium can't afford negative income tax (edited)
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cbass 20-Oct-20 02:11 PM
lmfaooo
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Sen. Empharius 20-Oct-20 02:11 PM
Mega said that this would make us more money then the old tax system
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character-confusion 20-Oct-20 02:11 PM
mega is wrong
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parm 20-Oct-20 02:12 PM
it makes 80 billion
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Sen. Empharius 20-Oct-20 02:12 PM
I retract my signiture then
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parm 20-Oct-20 02:12 PM
mega is wrong
@character-confusion how
it literally makes 80 trillion
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character-confusion 20-Oct-20 02:12 PM
highly doubt that somehow
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cbass 20-Oct-20 02:12 PM
80 trillion lol
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parm 20-Oct-20 02:13 PM
even in such case, i willl also include a land tax
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character-confusion 20-Oct-20 02:13 PM
you do realize our current budget, pre tax reform, was around $100B?
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parm 20-Oct-20 02:13 PM
yep
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character-confusion 20-Oct-20 02:13 PM
80 trillion jesus mega
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parm 20-Oct-20 02:13 PM
and the tax made around 65 million before
income tac
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character-confusion 20-Oct-20 02:13 PM
it didn't
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 20-Oct-20 02:13 PM
80 trollion
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parm 20-Oct-20 02:13 PM
it didn't
@character-confusion then how much did it make?
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character-confusion 20-Oct-20 02:14 PM
i believe income tax was around 50% of our budget
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 20-Oct-20 02:14 PM
And what is the 13
/s
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parm 20-Oct-20 02:15 PM
wait i got smth important to do
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character-confusion 20-Oct-20 02:15 PM
i've told you before that a) we can't afford NIT or UBI as a poor third world country with barely enough budget for what we have, and b) stop doing econ reform without an event
also your math is just like
bad
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parm 20-Oct-20 02:15 PM
rip
lemme recheck my math lol
but im p sure im right
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Sen. Empharius 20-Oct-20 02:24 PM
Please remove my signiture if you havent already
thanks
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parm 20-Oct-20 02:24 PM
ok
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cbass 21-Oct-20 05:55 AM
lol
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parm 21-Oct-20 06:17 AM
@cbass nigga my tax code gives away money to the poor
not even to ppor
anyone in the bottom 50%
chad
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cbass 21-Oct-20 06:18 AM
imagine thinking a third world country can afford that
could never be me
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parm 21-Oct-20 06:18 AM
anyways, rn, im working on a minority language bill
imagine thinking a third world country can afford that
@cbass ima show you my calcs after class
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cbass 21-Oct-20 06:18 AM
stop pinging me
smh
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parm 21-Oct-20 06:18 AM
sorry ❤️
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character-confusion 23-Oct-20 02:53 PM
@Senator Morshu Ferrok how is it overreach for the president to abolish an office that the president created?
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 02:53 PM
im not signing ferroks bill
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character-confusion 23-Oct-20 02:53 PM
All changes to the Senate of Patrium will be reversed.
technically that means reverting back to no SS
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 23-Oct-20 02:53 PM
Because
Shh
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 02:53 PM
thats a change of governent
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 23-Oct-20 02:53 PM
Adams created it
👆 2
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 02:53 PM
*government
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 23-Oct-20 02:54 PM
It’s not a change of government
Just balancing it
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character-confusion 23-Oct-20 02:54 PM
i mean yeah, it is changing the structure of government
you guys calling this an overreach is honestly laughable
but go off
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 02:57 PM
my bill is technically legal right
also the who point is for it to be dramatic
smh
sophistry
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character-confusion 23-Oct-20 02:57 PM
your bill is legally right, yes
it's just laughably incorrect is all
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 02:57 PM
of course
i know that
ooc
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character-confusion 23-Oct-20 02:58 PM
i know
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 02:59 PM
im just having fun with it
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 23-Oct-20 03:03 PM
Noo I need signatures
My bill is better
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 03:03 PM
your bill is illegal
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 23-Oct-20 03:03 PM
Do you want the President to just walk all over us?
With your bill, he can just do it again
With mine, he can't
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character-confusion 23-Oct-20 03:03 PM
god @Deleted User what's yoru senator's first name?
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 03:04 PM
Constantine
nooooo u edited my nickname lmao
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Amaaroc 23-Oct-20 03:04 PM
This is making me increasingly upset
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 03:04 PM
what is?
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 23-Oct-20 03:04 PM
Sign my bill
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 03:04 PM
im not
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 23-Oct-20 03:04 PM
It will make you feel better
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Amaaroc 23-Oct-20 03:05 PM
This happened for a reason for fucks sake
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 03:05 PM
troll
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 23-Oct-20 03:06 PM
And it will be reverted for a reason too
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Amaaroc 23-Oct-20 03:06 PM
Guess what No
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 23-Oct-20 03:06 PM
You have brought this upon yourself Jasper
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 03:06 PM
would taylor veto the ss bill?
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Amaaroc 23-Oct-20 03:06 PM
Yes He’ll veto both bills
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Sen. Empharius 23-Oct-20 03:06 PM
@Deleted User I’ll sign your bill
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 03:06 PM
thats bs
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Amaaroc 23-Oct-20 03:06 PM
Because 1: the ss thing happened for a fucking reason
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 03:06 PM
this is mod bias
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 23-Oct-20 03:06 PM
Quick, use my overrule clause!
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Sen. Mihiwihi 23-Oct-20 03:07 PM
Then make it so that we can override the veto
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 03:07 PM
if we want the SS
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Sen. Mihiwihi 23-Oct-20 03:07 PM
pls do i
y
it
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Sen. Empharius 23-Oct-20 03:07 PM
Quick, use my overrule clause!
@Senator Morshu Ferrok the bill would be vetoed before it came into effect
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Amaaroc 23-Oct-20 03:07 PM
You guys lost SS the second you lost my patience with the last elections
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Sen. Mihiwihi 23-Oct-20 03:07 PM
let us override the veto
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Sen. Empharius 23-Oct-20 03:07 PM
thats bs
@Deleted User it’s still worth it to pass even if it gets vetoed
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 03:07 PM
let us have an SS if we want one smh
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Amaaroc 23-Oct-20 03:07 PM
You won’t get it back and it’s final
DisgustedWookiee 4
gun 2
peabrain 1
wojak_cry 1
handwithgun 1
boohooo 1
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 03:07 PM
for sure ultra
jasper is a bad larper smh
meta gaming
nae nae baby
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Sen. Empharius 23-Oct-20 03:07 PM
It was one bad election
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 23-Oct-20 03:08 PM
@Senator Morshu Ferrok the bill would be vetoed before it came into effect
@Sen. Empharius
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Amaaroc 23-Oct-20 03:08 PM
You guys are being nothing more than corrupt fucks with it yet you don’t care enough to fight for it
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character-confusion 23-Oct-20 03:08 PM
jasper is meta gaming
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Sen. Empharius 23-Oct-20 03:08 PM
At a low point in activity
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Amaaroc 23-Oct-20 03:08 PM
I am! But at this point I’m at the end of my patience
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 03:08 PM
at least character is using in game reasoning
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Amaaroc 23-Oct-20 03:08 PM
Just No
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 03:08 PM
which i appreciate
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character-confusion 23-Oct-20 03:08 PM
but SS is a presidential creation, and the president has the power to remove it
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Sen. Empharius 23-Oct-20 03:08 PM
Now the server is active again and the elections will be busy again
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Amaaroc 23-Oct-20 03:08 PM
I can use in game reasoning too but you fuckers don’t deserve it at this point
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character-confusion 23-Oct-20 03:08 PM
and he won't take well to you trying to pass a bill to circumvent that
@Amaaroc
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 03:08 PM
why is jasper so salty
smh
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 23-Oct-20 03:08 PM
Too bad
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character-confusion 23-Oct-20 03:08 PM
#staff-discussion pls?
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 03:08 PM
you literally havent been ehre
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Amaaroc 23-Oct-20 03:08 PM
I’m aware of it
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 03:08 PM
*here
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Amaaroc 23-Oct-20 03:08 PM
Oh for fuck’s sake
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 03:09 PM
get some fresh air
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 23-Oct-20 03:09 PM
Facts don't care about the President's feelings
chad 2
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Sen. Empharius 23-Oct-20 03:09 PM
It was one bad election at a low point in the server’s activity
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 03:09 PM
should i add ur name ultra
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Sen. Empharius 23-Oct-20 03:09 PM
Yes
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Amaaroc 23-Oct-20 03:09 PM
You guys didn’t even try
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Sen. Empharius 23-Oct-20 03:10 PM
It was one bad election
There’s no reason to believe it will happen again
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 03:10 PM
ill finalize the bill once mega makes a coat of arms for the senate
which will be a pog
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 23-Oct-20 03:10 PM
In the meantime, sign my bill
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Sen. Empharius 23-Oct-20 03:10 PM
One bad election at a low point of the server’s activity
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Amaaroc 23-Oct-20 03:10 PM
It happened more than once
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 03:10 PM
your bill is illegal ferrok
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 23-Oct-20 03:10 PM
Why
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 03:11 PM
after i left the mod role jasper became the most biased mod entj
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Amaaroc 23-Oct-20 03:11 PM
I’m not being biased for fucks sake
You’re just pissy you lost the mod role
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 03:11 PM
i literally voluntarily gave it up
im enjoying myself more now
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Amaaroc 23-Oct-20 03:11 PM
Not the mod role
The ss role
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 03:11 PM
the mod role
oh
yeah i am pissy
chad
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Sen. Empharius 23-Oct-20 03:12 PM
I like having the SS
The elections are fun
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 23-Oct-20 03:12 PM
Me too
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Sen. Empharius 23-Oct-20 03:12 PM
And it gives me someone to complain about
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 03:12 PM
its a fun mechanic everyone was enjoying
generally
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Sen. Empharius 23-Oct-20 03:13 PM
Yeah
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character-confusion 23-Oct-20 03:13 PM
#the-news 🤷‍♂️
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Sen. Mihiwihi 23-Oct-20 03:13 PM
Your like fortnite overpowering the smg's
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Amaaroc 23-Oct-20 03:13 PM
The elections aren’t fun when you fuckers don’t care enough to do anything about it They’re not much more than a waste of time
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Sen. Mihiwihi 23-Oct-20 03:13 PM
yo chill
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Sen. Empharius 23-Oct-20 03:13 PM
That happened once!
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Amaaroc 23-Oct-20 03:13 PM
I’ll chill when these fuckers stop complaining
It happened 3 times
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Sen. Empharius 23-Oct-20 03:14 PM
When no one was active anyway!
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Amaaroc 23-Oct-20 03:14 PM
Three
One month and two weeks
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Sen. Mihiwihi 23-Oct-20 03:14 PM
as a moderator listen to everyone
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Sen. Empharius 23-Oct-20 03:14 PM
I only remember one?
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Sen. Mihiwihi 23-Oct-20 03:14 PM
what they want to say
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Amaaroc 23-Oct-20 03:14 PM
I’m listening
And at this point I’m fucking loosing it
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Sen. Mihiwihi 23-Oct-20 03:14 PM
you are in real need of meditation
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Sen. Empharius 23-Oct-20 03:15 PM
The SS was a fun mechanic
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Amaaroc 23-Oct-20 03:17 PM
Just. take it, okay? There are a bunch of things that happened I had to run this server alone for two fuckinf weeks and I need to take a break because all of you fight over everything and don’t take events and fuck around with whatever you want instead of the stuff we plan for you The SS is a mechanic not deserving of you fucks at this point, in all honesty, because you either do nothing and ride on your dead ass party or you use it for corruption and don’t pay attention to actual duties or events I’ve listened and I tried to remain patient and I’ve tried to help but at this point I’m at the fuckin end of the rope with my patience for this
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Sen. Mihiwihi 23-Oct-20 03:17 PM
very fun and great
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Amaaroc 23-Oct-20 03:18 PM
I feel like I’m gonna scream
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Sen. Mihiwihi 23-Oct-20 03:18 PM
oh
lol
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character-confusion 23-Oct-20 03:18 PM
uh
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Sen. Mihiwihi 23-Oct-20 03:18 PM
scream
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 23-Oct-20 03:18 PM
Cool, can we have it back now?
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character-confusion 23-Oct-20 03:18 PM
i was mostly on board for the ic reasons
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Amaaroc 23-Oct-20 03:18 PM
No
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character-confusion 23-Oct-20 03:18 PM
and no
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Sen. Mihiwihi 23-Oct-20 03:18 PM
i must hear you parrot scream too
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Sen. Empharius 23-Oct-20 03:18 PM
Sorry
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Amaaroc 23-Oct-20 03:18 PM
Yeah I’m good with it for the ic reasons too
But god I hate all of you
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Sen. Empharius 23-Oct-20 03:18 PM
Sorry
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 03:18 PM
then leave
chad
chad 2
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Amaaroc 23-Oct-20 03:19 PM
And I wanted it for the IC reasons initially
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 03:19 PM
(dont)
comflushed 2
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Sen. Empharius 23-Oct-20 03:19 PM
(Please dont)
comflushed 2
I’m okay with not getting it back I guess
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 03:19 PM
bruh we should still pass the bill for ic reasons
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Sen. Empharius 23-Oct-20 03:19 PM
We should still pass the bill though
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Amaaroc 23-Oct-20 03:19 PM
You can still pass the bill
Just. Stop screaming for it OOC too
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 03:20 PM
it makes sense as a retaliatory measure
also i need one more sig
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 07:25 PM
@Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP we don’t have access to your bill
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Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP 23-Oct-20 07:25 PM
Idk how to do it
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character-confusion 23-Oct-20 07:26 PM
A 1% tax reduction will be given to the religious institutions that have at least 5 books written by Karl Marx and/or Fredrich Engels for any individual to read at no cost within the organisation.
gigachad
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 07:26 PM
Click on share
Then copy link
With view
1f is retarded
I have no better term
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Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP 23-Oct-20 07:28 PM
Is it seen now or idk?
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character-confusion 23-Oct-20 07:28 PM
time to buy 5 copies of kapital for a tax break Chad (edited)
yeah it is
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 07:29 PM
I’ll sign later
I like it
If we flesh it out a tad more
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Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP 23-Oct-20 07:30 PM
Basically sum
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 07:30 PM
I like what you have written though
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Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP 23-Oct-20 07:31 PM
Public safety drills and knowledge Police amd military cooperation SOC riot police and swat SOC RP when shit hits the fan really hard SOC SWAT when we kbiw shits fucked up and shit
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parm 23-Oct-20 07:49 PM
why
would u get rid of separation of church and state
government shouldn't be funding religion PERIOD
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Dieselkeough 23-Oct-20 07:50 PM
"Religion is the moral backbone off society. we need to make sure that religions create a safer and more peaceful society."
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character-confusion 23-Oct-20 07:50 PM
it's technically not funding, just tax breaks
oh, there is a bit of funding too
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Dieselkeough 23-Oct-20 07:51 PM
technically we are giving like 100 bucks
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character-confusion 23-Oct-20 07:51 PM
the horror
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parm 23-Oct-20 07:51 PM
but why?
religion
just divides us smh
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 07:51 PM
Because it’s the party platform??
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parm 23-Oct-20 07:51 PM
fair
but
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 07:51 PM
I don’t see an issue with Bleus concept
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Dieselkeough 23-Oct-20 07:52 PM
"not if the religion is made to form peace."
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parm 23-Oct-20 07:52 PM
i dont like it smh
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 07:52 PM
But the implementation is something I am against
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parm 23-Oct-20 07:52 PM
we're at an impassé
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Deleted User 23-Oct-20 07:52 PM
In the bill it prohibits one sect of Christianity from calling another heretical
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Dieselkeough 23-Oct-20 07:52 PM
"the only way for them to even get the money is if they encourage deradicalisation."
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parm 23-Oct-20 07:53 PM
and what does "more passive views" even ,mean?
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Dieselkeough 23-Oct-20 07:53 PM
"and enccourage "loving ones neighbor"
"well non-aggeressive"
"i suppose i can make that more clear."
"i fixed it."
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Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP 23-Oct-20 09:42 PM
I’m expecting a clash between by bill and bleu’s bill
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parm 23-Oct-20 09:50 PM
I’m expecting a clash between by bill and bleu’s bill
@Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP wdym?
oooh nvm
how about neither/
ilike Karlos's bill more tho
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Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP 23-Oct-20 09:54 PM
...
I have decided I want to pull my bill
Aka take off
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cbass 23-Oct-20 09:55 PM
lmfaoo
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Sen. Empharius 23-Oct-20 09:55 PM
Why?
Don’t leave us with the religeon bill as our only option
Please
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cbass 23-Oct-20 09:56 PM
just vote it down
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Dieselkeough 23-Oct-20 09:56 PM
pretty sure TPO is making one
But it isnt the "religion bill"
honestly, it has very little to do with religion at all.
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cbass 23-Oct-20 09:56 PM
it is now
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Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP 23-Oct-20 09:57 PM
Any auth right boi wanna use my bill as a "counter" go do it idk
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Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP 23-Oct-20 11:28 PM
Well seems like @Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) had most or half of his bill after whatever i decided to propise
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Sen. Empharius 23-Oct-20 11:32 PM
I don’t think camera are allowed
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Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP 23-Oct-20 11:36 PM
Idk
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character-confusion 23-Oct-20 11:42 PM
camera's aren't illegal
they're just very unpopular and socially taboo
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Sen. Empharius 23-Oct-20 11:46 PM
Yeah, I don’t think we should do them
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 24-Oct-20 08:59 AM
Well you see
In a time of crisis
People will cling to anything that gives them safety....
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Deleted User 24-Oct-20 09:00 AM
Senator Pokémon Generation V moment
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 24-Oct-20 09:06 AM
Bruh
Ingsoc is not Nazi???
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parm 24-Oct-20 09:13 AM
the irony for ingsoccers to quote 1984
the pure irony
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 24-Oct-20 09:16 AM
But what if
1984 but unironically
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Sen. Empharius 24-Oct-20 10:25 AM
We’re not doing cameras
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 24-Oct-20 10:44 AM
So you won't support it if it has cameras?
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Sen. Empharius 24-Oct-20 11:29 AM
Correct
It’ll kill party pop
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 24-Oct-20 11:37 AM
Event bills don't affect approval
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Deleted User 24-Oct-20 11:37 AM
yes the do?
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 24-Oct-20 11:38 AM
I remember them not doing that unless It was REALLY bad
Or my memory is just bad
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Deleted User 24-Oct-20 11:38 AM
i thought whichever bill passed got boosted approval
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 24-Oct-20 11:38 AM
Oh, so it just boosts approval if your bill wins?
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Deleted User 24-Oct-20 11:39 AM
not sure
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character-confusion 24-Oct-20 11:41 AM
Event bills do affect approval
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 24-Oct-20 11:41 AM
Really?
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character-confusion 24-Oct-20 11:41 AM
Yes
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 24-Oct-20 11:42 AM
Also if libertarian bills like the fundamental freedom bill can win without anything out of the normal happening
Auth bills should gain approval when there is terrorism everywhere
Also @Sen. Empharius if you don't support this bill I will replace you helping run it with billy helping run it
:)
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Sen. Empharius 24-Oct-20 12:56 PM
I support the bill, just not the camera’s
Is there a way we could edit the bill to not have camera’s?
That’s my only question
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parm 24-Oct-20 01:00 PM
REEE
IT'S CAMERAS NOT CAMERA'S
smhhhh
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jimizoid 24-Oct-20 08:08 PM
i propose that we eliminate grammar
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 24-Oct-20 08:14 PM
^
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parm 24-Oct-20 08:19 PM
>ingsoc >wants to eliminate rules curious?
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 24-Oct-20 08:32 PM
The only grammmar is Newspeak
👁
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 24-Oct-20 09:36 PM
@Moderator I have 7 signatures
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Amaaroc 24-Oct-20 09:42 PM
Didn’t I already tell you the bill was illegal
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 24-Oct-20 09:42 PM
And?
I don’t mind if it’s illegal, or immediately vetoed upon leaving the senate
I just want it to be voted upon
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parm 24-Oct-20 09:43 PM
mfw
bruh
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Dieselkeough 24-Oct-20 09:43 PM
our popularity is going down ACAball
oh well, logic gang it is
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 24-Oct-20 09:44 PM
The LPP has a 5.1 right now
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Dieselkeough 24-Oct-20 09:45 PM
yeah. but overall senate
and also, this bill will fail
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Amaaroc 24-Oct-20 09:46 PM
I’m sorry homie, I told you already and I think character did too
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character-confusion 24-Oct-20 09:46 PM
i didn't say they couldn't vote on it, i said it made no logical sense
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parm 24-Oct-20 09:46 PM
lmfaoooooo
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character-confusion 24-Oct-20 09:47 PM
technically yes, you can't have provisions in place for a bill that hasn't passed yet
so actually yeah, it is kinda illegal
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Amaaroc 24-Oct-20 09:47 PM
Ans it is thus illegal and got yote
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parm 24-Oct-20 09:47 PM
if he got rid of that tho...
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character-confusion 24-Oct-20 09:47 PM
as diesel so eloquently put it, you can't just stick in a provision in a bill that says "this needs one vote to pass"
troll 2
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parm 24-Oct-20 09:48 PM
imagine if you could entj
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Dieselkeough 24-Oct-20 09:49 PM
"hello yes, my bill to put me as queen of patrium needs one vote to pass. i vote aff, bill passes, now bow" she says sarcastically (edited)
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 24-Oct-20 09:52 PM
Okay I removed the illegal part
Executive Overreach Act, 2020 Introduced by Sen. Ferrok (LPP) Whereas the President of Patrium, Marshall Taylor, has stepped over the boundaries and exceeded the powers of his office; Whereas the Senate of Patrium has been ridiculed time after time; Whereas divisions in the...
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Dieselkeough 24-Oct-20 09:53 PM
just vote no. this whole thing has gone on long enough
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 24-Oct-20 09:53 PM
I still don’t care if it is vetoed
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someguyinshorts 24-Oct-20 09:54 PM
Put my signature back on there
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 24-Oct-20 09:55 PM
Just add the provision that the president can't veto it (edited)
troll
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Deleted User 24-Oct-20 09:55 PM
if we vote now can our rating go up
entj
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Amaaroc 24-Oct-20 09:56 PM
Your rating will auto go to one I s2g
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Dieselkeough 24-Oct-20 09:56 PM
A Bill to add NOTA as a permanent voting option. Section 1: NOTA NOTA shall be defined as a bill or a proposition to not pass a bill or a proposition regarding the matter when it is used inn contest to other bills. NOTA shall be defined as no candidate when it is used in elect...
also this bill will add an option to all bills
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 24-Oct-20 09:56 PM
That is a good bill tbh
Just from a pure gameplay standpoint
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 24-Oct-20 09:57 PM
Can my bill be taken to senate floor now
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Dieselkeough 24-Oct-20 09:57 PM
should i put the name down?
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character-confusion 25-Oct-20 11:10 PM
@Big Brother (Clement2022) hehe there's no veto override
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 25-Oct-20 11:11 PM
mfw
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character-confusion 25-Oct-20 11:12 PM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
leftover from adams' despot days
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Dieselkeough 25-Oct-20 11:17 PM
can the senate popularity in general just tank
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character-confusion 25-Oct-20 11:18 PM
it's not high
#public-opinion
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Amaaroc 25-Oct-20 11:18 PM
I mean we can do that But you’re the only one that wants it I think
And ya’ll have not done much wrong besides annoy make me regret existing
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character-confusion 25-Oct-20 11:21 PM
wrong
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Amaaroc 25-Oct-20 11:23 PM
Well there is more but shh
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character-confusion 25-Oct-20 11:24 PM
i mean the news has been full of attacks, approval ratings have fallen, the senate's done a ton of corrupt stuff that's been revealed to the public
as far as i'm concerned, this is just slow-burn doomsday clock
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Amaaroc 25-Oct-20 11:24 PM
Insert Seinfeld theme here
Y’all need to get your act together
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Dieselkeough 25-Oct-20 11:35 PM
plus the continual attempts to do the president thing
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 31-Oct-20 03:39 PM
We have the budget for it
So why not?
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parm 31-Oct-20 03:51 PM
mfw
i mean our budget's already streched thin
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Dieselkeough 31-Oct-20 07:09 PM
Plus we ought to use it for deradicalisation
Not building up a military and slightly increasing radicalism
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parm 31-Oct-20 08:27 PM
radical this radical that
radical seems to be a buzzword from you
👀
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cbass 31-Oct-20 08:28 PM
radical means cool
why would we want to make that less
smh silly padre
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parm 31-Oct-20 08:30 PM
^
radical skateboard tricks 😎
getting yelled at by mi padre for breaking shit 😎
smh silly padre
@cbass Padre means "dad". Parents don't know cool
they hate cool
smh
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cbass 31-Oct-20 08:31 PM
ohhh shitt
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parm 31-Oct-20 08:31 PM
yeppp
cring
smhhhh
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Dieselkeough 31-Oct-20 08:36 PM
Big daddy based
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Ferry ☭ 07-Nov-20 04:35 PM
@ابو عبيدة is your policy proposal proposing ending all relations with the Israeli government?
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ابو عبيدة 07-Nov-20 04:35 PM
Yes
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Ferry ☭ 07-Nov-20 04:36 PM
Eh, understandable, i think i will sign it.
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Dieselkeough 07-Nov-20 04:37 PM
It isnt our place to intervene in that conflict.
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Deleted User 07-Nov-20 04:37 PM
I agree with Bleu
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Dieselkeough 07-Nov-20 04:37 PM
I am afraid i will need to decline for now.
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Deleted User 07-Nov-20 04:38 PM
The PNP supports neither Israel nor Palestine
Though this bill will have little impact on the region as a whole, I fear it will hurt our growing relations with the UK
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Ferry ☭ 07-Nov-20 04:38 PM
How are we intervening? It's just cutting relations with an oppressive regime in my opinion. We're just giving diplomatic support to Palestine, with deserved criticism, at least on my part.
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Deleted User 07-Nov-20 04:39 PM
I prefer to stay neutral in its conflict
I will vote against
And encourage my party to do so
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Dieselkeough 07-Nov-20 04:40 PM
its a conflict that we as partians have no economic or social benefit from it
we would actuallly distance ourselves further from the UK
one of our best allies.
I will do the same.
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Ferry ☭ 07-Nov-20 04:40 PM
So why should the UK care about region if we should not?
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Dieselkeough 07-Nov-20 04:41 PM
because they have economic ties with isreal.
not to mention the US's alliance with isreal.
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Deleted User 07-Nov-20 04:41 PM
Because the UK is a global power
We are not
We have no interest in the region
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Ferry ☭ 07-Nov-20 04:41 PM
Okay? I personally don't care about that.
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Deleted User 07-Nov-20 04:41 PM
It is not in our interest to take sides
(Bleu-Apost alliance is cursed)
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Ferry ☭ 07-Nov-20 04:43 PM
I personally think we do have a diplomatic interest, we are part of this Earth and as Humanity should fight against Human rights abuses, but maybe that's just my opinion.
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Deleted User 07-Nov-20 04:44 PM
Also the trade point is too much for the PNP to support this
We wish to expand our trade horizons, not limit them
Especially in times of economic hardships
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Ferry ☭ 07-Nov-20 04:45 PM
I'd personally prefer a tarriff on imports and i do think that cutting relations is a bit too much for me, but i can see why some would argue for it.
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Jeb 07-Nov-20 05:04 PM
sign my proposal it is very based
and if you dont liek it then tell me whya nd i'll see if i can improve it
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Ferry ☭ 07-Nov-20 05:08 PM
Not personally interested.
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Jeb 07-Nov-20 05:09 PM
ok and
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Ferry ☭ 07-Nov-20 05:10 PM
Nothing, i don't really have an opinion on it
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Jeb 07-Nov-20 05:12 PM
so sign it troll
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Ferry ☭ 07-Nov-20 05:14 PM
While i do agree Terrorism is a bad way of showing your ideals, as 99% of the population does, these terms, i fear, could be used by conservatives as buzzwords against leftist movements, but i personally don't know too much about my fellow conservative colleagues to say. So, i guess i will now.
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Jeb 07-Nov-20 05:23 PM
pog
also my objective was to make it as neutral and specific as possible to not have people go through any loopholes
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Dieselkeough 07-Nov-20 05:26 PM
ye.
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Senator Mucus 07-Nov-20 05:37 PM
“While I’m no fan of Israel, I would prefer as two-state solution. My ideal solution is to have a unified, secular state distinct from Israel and Palestine, but I’m aware of that idea’s limited practicality.”
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parm 07-Nov-20 05:47 PM
How about no state chad
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 07-Nov-20 05:47 PM
"Patrium should own that area ideally"
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parm 07-Nov-20 05:48 PM
Rojava-style chad
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ابو عبيدة 07-Nov-20 05:49 PM
kurds 🤮
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parm 07-Nov-20 05:50 PM
They are also muslims 🙄
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ابو عبيدة 07-Nov-20 05:52 PM
The Queer Insurrection and Liberation Army (TQILA) was a queer anarchist armed group and subunit of the International Revolutionary People's Guerrilla Forces formed on 24 July 2017 by LGBT members of the IRPGF. Its formation was announced from Raqqa City along with a statement...
chad 2
"muslims"
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parm 07-Nov-20 05:53 PM
@ابو عبيدة holy fuck i love rojava even more now troll
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ابو عبيدة 07-Nov-20 05:53 PM
wojak_cry
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 07-Nov-20 05:53 PM
"Liberation???"
"CRINGE"
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ابو عبيدة 07-Nov-20 05:54 PM
i will liberate their head from their body
chad 4
entj 3
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 07-Nov-20 05:54 PM
"I will liberate their free will from their existence"
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Ferry ☭ 08-Nov-20 03:40 AM
The Queer Insurrection and Liberation Army (TQILA) was a queer anarchist armed group and subunit of the International Revolutionary People's Guerrilla Forces formed on 24 July 2017 by LGBT members of the IRPGF. Its formation was announced from Raqqa City along with a statement...
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cbass 08-Nov-20 06:37 AM
te quila
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Dieselkeough 08-Nov-20 03:21 PM
I have proposed a bill to encourage charity in patrium
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ابو عبيدة 08-Nov-20 03:23 PM
ok
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Dieselkeough 08-Nov-20 03:23 PM
do you think you could approve of it?
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Dieselkeough 08-Nov-20 03:40 PM
Signing onto the bill will enccourage charity in patrium and will encourage people to be more peaceful to one another
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cbass 08-Nov-20 03:41 PM
meh
@Senator Morshu Ferrok yo you should found tqila
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Senator Mucus 08-Nov-20 04:55 PM
I actually quite like the bill.
@Dieselkeough Feel free you add my signature to it if you’d like.
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cbass 08-Nov-20 06:04 PM
ew
anyway i would like to point out a flaw in the bill
the incentive outlined in section c (i believe), the portion that describes how donating affects taxes
is 0% effective, guaranteed
say you have $100 then you give $10 (10% of your money) to charity and income tax is 10% (so $10 before break) you pay $9 in taxes thus losing $19 where if you just pay taxes, you lose $10
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Dieselkeough 08-Nov-20 06:15 PM
its not intended to just be an entire thing to where it is completely negated. at that point, why dont we just give them the money ourselves?
people shouldnt dontate because it will give them money, people should donate because it is morally good. the tax break is just a nice benefit for doing so. (edited)
the intent isnt to make it economically viable, just to make the lives of people who donate to charities better to reward them, even if its just a little bit, for doing it.
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cbass 08-Nov-20 06:18 PM
then you don't incentivize new donors, you only entrench those already donating, and very minimally at that
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Dieselkeough 08-Nov-20 06:19 PM
its a little thing. its not meant to totally change how people donate and all that
its just meant to encourage those who do good, at a disadvantage to themselves, to keep doing good. to let them know that we support them, and we appreciate them
actions speak louder than words after all.
its a slight incentive to new donors, and it is less of a downside for donating
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cbass 08-Nov-20 06:22 PM
meh
wouldn't sign onto it personally and
would definitely vote no
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Senator Mucus 08-Nov-20 06:27 PM
You wouldn’t want every dollar donated to charity reduce your taxes by the same amount. The government still needs money.
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Dieselkeough 08-Nov-20 06:30 PM
^
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Jeb 08-Nov-20 07:08 PM
y'all sign my bill pls based
it's based
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Dieselkeough 08-Nov-20 07:10 PM
it do be based doe
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Senator Mucus 08-Nov-20 08:12 PM
What if I want to destroy Patrium though? 😳
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Dieselkeough 08-Nov-20 08:12 PM
😳
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character-confusion 08-Nov-20 08:13 PM
comflush
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parm 08-Nov-20 08:57 PM
comflushed
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 08-Nov-20 09:29 PM
@Senator Morshu Ferrok yo you should found tqila
@cbass not sure how well that would go over, considering I’m a cis white male that only occasionally dabbles in femboys
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cbass 08-Nov-20 09:30 PM
found it and then when you've found a suitable gay to run it, give it to them
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Dieselkeough 08-Nov-20 09:30 PM
>.>
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 08-Nov-20 09:32 PM
🤔
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ابو عبيدة 09-Nov-20 04:30 AM
please sign my bill
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Amaaroc 09-Nov-20 04:32 AM
Good luck homie
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Jeb 09-Nov-20 03:42 PM
please clap sign my bill
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Nov-20 08:28 PM
Here's some castle doctrine for ya'll
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Senator Mucus 10-Nov-20 08:29 PM
My unironic political opinion is probably in favor, but I probably should vote against as I’m part of the Ingsoc party.
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Nov-20 08:30 PM
boohooo
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Jeb 10-Nov-20 08:35 PM
some parts of the bill are based, some are not
alas
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Nov-20 08:35 PM
Yeah
I tried to achieve a reasonable balance
Baby steps
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Jeb 10-Nov-20 08:35 PM
btw I have made a bill again after so long and only 3 people have signed boohooo
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Nov-20 08:36 PM
That's because at least half of the parties here would fall victim to it
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Jeb 10-Nov-20 08:37 PM
if half of the parties are EXPLICITLY advocating for terrorism and the hurting of our own citizens then something is wrong my man (edited)
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Nov-20 08:38 PM
troll
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Dieselkeough 10-Nov-20 10:31 PM
Maween doesnt approve.
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Sen. Empharius 11-Nov-20 09:05 AM
if half of the parties are EXPLICITLY advocating for terrorism and the hurting of our own citizens then something is wrong my man
@Jeb have you met Patrium?
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character-confusion 16-Nov-20 11:08 AM
@parm put your bills in dollars like everyone else
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parm 16-Nov-20 11:08 AM
@parm put your bills in dollars like everyone else
@character-confusion smh fine
all of that conversion for nothing boohooo
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cbass 16-Nov-20 11:13 AM
bruh did u really not put it in dollars
you fuckin dweeb
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parm 16-Nov-20 11:15 AM
bruh did u really not put it in dollars
@cbass i converted it into rupees for le realism
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cbass 16-Nov-20 11:16 AM
what a loser
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parm 16-Nov-20 11:17 AM
funwaa
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 11:24 AM
@parm wheres the the land value tax boohooo
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cbass 16-Nov-20 11:25 AM
yeah idk if miko shared any digits with you but lemme tell ya (edited)
an lvt would make a lot of money
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Dieselkeough 16-Nov-20 11:27 AM
The lib bills will have a three way split vote it seems
Cool
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 11:32 AM
We agreed to put a lvt but he didnt put it ree
I am sad
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parm 16-Nov-20 11:34 AM
We agreed to put a lvt but he didnt put it ree
@Ferry ☭ ima replace the property tax section with LVT chad
just gimme a sec
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 11:34 AM
O
Pog
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parm 16-Nov-20 11:34 AM
an lvt would make a lot of money
@cbass how much?
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cbass 16-Nov-20 11:35 AM
gimme a percentage? (edited)
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parm 16-Nov-20 11:35 AM
uhhh 15%
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cbass 16-Nov-20 11:35 AM
oh jesus
okay hang on a few
okay
$403,031,924,700
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parm 16-Nov-20 11:37 AM
WHART
WHAT HOLY
FUC pog
time to make a UBI
entj
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cbass 16-Nov-20 11:37 AM
the unrest you will face if you pass that will destroy the FSL
and probably patrium too
a 15% lvt is fucking brutal
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parm 16-Nov-20 11:37 AM
something like 5%?
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cbass 16-Nov-20 11:37 AM
miko asked for 2%
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parm 16-Nov-20 11:38 AM
a 15% lvt is fucking brutal
@cbass the goal is 100% entj
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 11:38 AM
5%.
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parm 16-Nov-20 11:38 AM
well, 5% would make 1/3 of that
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cbass 16-Nov-20 11:38 AM
1% will give you $26,868,794,980
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parm 16-Nov-20 11:38 AM
landchads coping and seething rn
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cbass 16-Nov-20 11:39 AM
5% will give you $134,343,974,900
👀 2
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 11:39 AM
Doubt 5% is a lot Hmm
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parm 16-Nov-20 11:39 AM
i mean, we can just abolish all other texes
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cbass 16-Nov-20 11:39 AM
or a little more than the current income tax plan makes
you could
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 11:39 AM
Realization
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parm 16-Nov-20 11:39 AM
single tax time chad
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cbass 16-Nov-20 11:39 AM
or
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 11:39 AM
I still aint sure what we mean by land tbh
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cbass 16-Nov-20 11:39 AM
you could just add that and restore the budget to what it was before
except without the deficit spending
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parm 16-Nov-20 11:39 AM
I still aint sure what we mean by land tbh
@Ferry ☭ land
literally it
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 11:40 AM
Rural? Urban? Both?
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parm 16-Nov-20 11:40 AM
both
all land
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 11:40 AM
Ex. pls
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parm 16-Nov-20 11:40 AM
?
just ALL land
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 11:40 AM
I dont get it
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parm 16-Nov-20 11:41 AM
wdym
it's just whoever owns land pays x% of the value of their land to the government anually
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cbass 16-Nov-20 11:41 AM
^
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parm 16-Nov-20 11:42 AM
ight time to make henry george proud
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cbass 16-Nov-20 11:42 AM
so if you own 100 sq ft, and its worth $1k and theres a 1% LVT, you pay $100 to the gov annually (edited)
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 11:42 AM
O
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parm 16-Nov-20 11:42 AM
also maybe UBI 👀
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 11:42 AM
I see
also maybe UBI 👀
@parm NIT gigachad
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parm 16-Nov-20 11:42 AM
NIT and UBI are the same smh
mathematically
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 11:43 AM
Realization
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parm 16-Nov-20 11:43 AM
wait we could just use the income tax to fund the UBI :clueless:
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 11:43 AM
spit
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parm 16-Nov-20 11:43 AM
10% income tax 5% LVT quite possibly the world's simplest tax code
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 11:44 AM
Libsoc party proposing low taxspit
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parm 16-Nov-20 11:45 AM
troll
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 11:45 AM
@Mr.Korrupto come here nigga we're making George proud
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cbass 16-Nov-20 11:45 AM
>10% income tax >UBI
just get rid the income tax
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 11:46 AM
@Ferry ☭ nigga think of the farmers
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 11:46 AM
Thonking
:jesse:
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 11:47 AM
look considering the data cbass gave me yesterday
or today, idk
it would be kinda uhhh
bad
@Ferry ☭ 3k$ per sq m2
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 11:48 AM
Hmm
Sounds great
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 11:49 AM
if I use average farmland size per usa data
just for an example
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 11:50 AM
Bruh what
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 11:50 AM
nearly 1 800 000 sq m (edited)
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cbass 16-Nov-20 11:51 AM
@Ferry ☭ 3k$ per sq m2
@Mr.Korrupto 2500ish*0.02
its really not that bad
about $50 per sq m
yk what
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 11:51 AM
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cbass 16-Nov-20 11:51 AM
yeah 2% is really high
yeah
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 11:52 AM
36k$ per year at 2%
I dont think farmers will be happy
@cbass LVT at 1% calcs please
or try doing even 0.75%
I wanted to get LVT into the ULP bill
but I dont wanna exactly show a middle finger torwards farmers
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cbass 16-Nov-20 11:54 AM
1% will give you $26,868,794,980
@cbass
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 11:54 AM
Which farmers Hmm
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 11:54 AM
the ones that exist in patrium and have striked already before
0.75 would be what, 20 bil-ish?
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 11:55 AM
I'm new here, i wasnt told everything 😟
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Dieselkeough 16-Nov-20 11:55 AM
A c c e l e r a t e
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 11:55 AM
what's the population of patrium
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 11:56 AM
Hmm
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 11:57 AM
wait
if this is the average...
and at 1% the average (atleast per usa standards) farmer would pay 18k$...
@Ferry ☭ @parm do you guys really wanna risk that
unless average farmland per farmer is much smaller
@cbass cbass, my guy
can you maybe talk with mods
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cbass 16-Nov-20 11:58 AM
yeah waddup
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 11:58 AM
and get an average farmland size
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cbass 16-Nov-20 11:58 AM
um
no
thats hellish
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 11:58 AM
so far LVT is lookin pretty damn fucking grin
...is there a country where I could use its averages
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cbass 16-Nov-20 11:59 AM
the same one we always use
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 11:59 AM
and they would somewhat translate to patrium
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Dieselkeough 16-Nov-20 11:59 AM
The LVT would put all farmers 8n debt to the government
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 11:59 AM
@cbass tazmania?
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cbass 16-Nov-20 11:59 AM
malaysia my friend
malaysia
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 11:59 AM
ah malaysia
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cbass 16-Nov-20 11:59 AM
just hang on a second
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 12:00 PM
Lower or eliminate other taxes on poor working class Thonking
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cbass 16-Nov-20 12:00 PM
Nearly twenty four percent of Malaysia's land area is composed of land dedicated to agriculture alone.
Lower or eliminate other taxes on poor working class :Thonking:
@Ferry ☭ i already did that like a lot
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 12:00 PM
Oh
Current rate?
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:00 PM
yea but that's for all farms
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cbass 16-Nov-20 12:00 PM
i know
gimme a minute
im dealing with more than one thing at once
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:00 PM
kk
oh I also need to structure and expand the ULP bill a bit more
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cbass 16-Nov-20 12:01 PM
find that bill
the tax brackets are in there
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:01 PM
@parm how the fuck the FSL bill is so short
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cbass 16-Nov-20 12:01 PM
okay now
farmland
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 12:02 PM
What are farmers missing by being so poor?
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:09 PM
entj
@parm how the fuck the FSL bill is so short
@Mr.Korrupto well, i didn't really fuck with the internal funding for the departments but you had a whole section dedicated to like the Patrian Health Service
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cbass 16-Nov-20 12:09 PM
Sixteen percent of the population of Malaysia is employed through some sort of agriculture.
31.53 million * 0.16 = 5,044,800
Nearly twenty four percent of Malaysia's land area is composed of land dedicated to agriculture alone.
127,355 mi^2 * 0.24 = 30,565.2 = 30,565 mi^2
The average household size in Malaysia is 4.3 persons
5,044,800 / 4.3 = 1,173,209.302 = 1,173,209 30,565 / 1,173,209 = 0.02605 mi^2 = 67,469.19 m^2 $2,483 per m^2 * 67,469 m^2 = $167,525,527 $167,525,527 * 0.01 = $1,675,255.27
oop
so your average farmer will pay $1.6 million under a 1% LVT
unless i fucked that up somewhere
and i think i did cause that doesnt seem right
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:10 PM
yea u fucked something up
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cbass 16-Nov-20 12:10 PM
dunno
yall can figure it out
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:10 PM
hmmm....how ya getting the value of the land
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cbass 16-Nov-20 12:11 PM
forget where
but malaysia's number was around 3400
so i dropped it a bunch cause...war
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:11 PM
also like a lot of farms are owned by big companies
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:12 PM
you did fuck something up
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:12 PM
yea lol
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:12 PM
my calculations of 18k$ using USA average farmland
is far better
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:13 PM
damn time to run back to those spreadsheets
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:14 PM
anyways my bill is clearly better since I actually took time to dissect shit and adjust it on a step-by-step basis
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 12:14 PM
also like a lot of farms are owned by big companies
@parm ok, 100% lvt to cuck the companies it is
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:14 PM
ferry
you know that this will also put out all non-corpo farmers out of business
and allow corpo to uh y'know
TAKE OVER THE MARKET
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 12:15 PM
Thonking
5%
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:16 PM
5% is still up there at putting them out
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:16 PM
ight ima do some homework and finish the calculation
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:16 PM
WAIT
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:16 PM
also fuck consumption tax smh
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:16 PM
@cbass is there a possibility
a possible LVT implementation within this hellhole
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:16 PM
👀
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:16 PM
could just directly
wait what's the word
fuck
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 12:17 PM
Uh cant we just find a way to not tax independent farmers? Hmm
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cbass 16-Nov-20 12:17 PM
no
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:17 PM
exclude farmers from paying the lvt
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cbass 16-Nov-20 12:17 PM
no
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:17 PM
why
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:17 PM
but that'd make the tax code more complex boohooo
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cbass 16-Nov-20 12:17 PM
because then i cant calculate an actual amount the LVT would make
and yeah what mega said^
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:17 PM
my solution is a UBI
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cbass 16-Nov-20 12:17 PM
shut up mega
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:17 PM
which would offset the tax
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:17 PM
oh mega you know that'
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 12:17 PM
Well if miko is correct then this is bad entj
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cbass 16-Nov-20 12:18 PM
you guys could always just not fuck with the tax code
no 1
😔 1
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:18 PM
under your flat tax
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cbass 16-Nov-20 12:18 PM
patrium is not losing money
Thonking 1
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:18 PM
the average person pays more
your average joe pays more in income tax
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cbass 16-Nov-20 12:18 PM
why are you typing in
phrases
like this
its
really hard to
keep track of
what you're tyring
to say
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:18 PM
because fuck you, that's why!
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:18 PM
did you hear of the new discord update?
the reply feature
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:19 PM
capitalism, always^^^^
troll
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:19 PM
but yea Mega you're all about workers and shit yet you force them to pay more in thieving taxes
curious
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cbass 16-Nov-20 12:20 PM
^
i know idk why he's so insistent on flat taxes
fuckin shit leftie
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:20 PM
I have a solution boohooo
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cbass 16-Nov-20 12:20 PM
is it a ubi
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 12:20 PM
Ok fine just put a fixated income tax at 16% like we propose and put a 4% lvt
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:20 PM
i know idk why he's so insistent on flat taxes
@cbass because simple tax coded are based
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:20 PM
"4% LVT"
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:20 PM
is it a ubi
@cbass yes
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:20 PM
die
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:20 PM
entj
i want a 100% LVT eventually
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 12:20 PM
"4% LVT"
@Mr.Korrupto yes
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:20 PM
lefties on their way to destroy the economy
funwaa 2
yes 1
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cbass 16-Nov-20 12:20 PM
Ok fine just put a fixated income tax at 16% like we propose and put a 4% lvt
@Ferry ☭ you do understand that you would watch your approval go down faster than i did on your mom last night, right?
entj 1
⭐ 2
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:21 PM
good point
16% income tax wouldn't be too bad
but 4% LVT would be 👀
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:21 PM
a flat tax hurts your median income earner you fuckwad
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 12:21 PM
@Ferry ☭ you do understand that you would watch your approval go down faster than i did on your mom last night, right?
@cbass i raped ur dad faster than you did my mom.
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cbass 16-Nov-20 12:21 PM
my dad gave consent
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 12:21 PM
No
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:22 PM
a flat tax hurts your median income earner you fuckwad
@Mr.Korrupto that's why the UBI exists, to shift the curve downwards
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cbass 16-Nov-20 12:22 PM
16% income tax wouldn't be too bad
@parm friendly reminder the lowest bracket is 5% currently
you'd literally hike their rate 11%
talk about "people's party"
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:22 PM
it's just linear functions boohooo
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 12:22 PM
And the highest is 32%.
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:22 PM
WHY DO I EVEN CARE ABOUT WORKERS MORE THAN THE LEFTIE PARTY
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cbass 16-Nov-20 12:22 PM
yeah fuck them rich kids
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:22 PM
WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:22 PM
you'd literally hike their rate 11%
@cbass but it would practically amount to a net less in taxes
(edited)
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cbass 16-Nov-20 12:22 PM
WHY DO I EVEN CARE ABOUT WORKERS MORE THAN THE LEFTIE PARTY
@Mr.Korrupto this is my point
right here
miko is a fucking ancap here
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:22 PM
entj
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:22 PM
compared to those 2 gringos*
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cbass 16-Nov-20 12:22 PM
and the dumbass ancoms dont even give a shit about the lower class
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:23 PM
>polak >"gringo" 🤔
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cbass 16-Nov-20 12:23 PM
truly magical
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 12:23 PM
How is a fucking highest tax rate of 32% better than a linear universal 16% tax rate
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cbass 16-Nov-20 12:23 PM
because fuck the rich
they dont need it
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:23 PM
its the 1%, they can afford it in all honesty
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 12:23 PM
What are you on about jesse
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cbass 16-Nov-20 12:23 PM
its the 1%, they can afford it in all honesty
@Mr.Korrupto my thoughts when i wrote the bill
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:23 PM
for now I care about the lowest, second lowest and average earner
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:23 PM
and the dumbass ancoms dont even give a shit about the lower class
@cbass but my UBI proposal means that the bottom 50% pay NOTHING in taxes
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:24 PM
MEGA
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:24 PM
they actually earn money
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:24 PM
WE HAVE OTHER SHIT TO FUND IN THIS COUNTRY
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cbass 16-Nov-20 12:24 PM
>doesnt like complex tax codes >wants a UBI
fucking dumbass
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:24 PM
ik we just have a 40% base rate
>doesnt like complex tax codes >wants a UBI
@cbass a UBI isn't complex
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:24 PM
UBI THAT WOULD SET BACK THE EFFECTS OF A FLAT 16% INCOME TAX WOULD JUST EAT OUR BUDGET LIKE CHROME EATS RAM
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cbass 16-Nov-20 12:24 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:24 PM
it's a literal linear function boohooo
let me get the spreadsheets out
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 12:24 PM
Why was the income tax rate split anyway lol
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:24 PM
progressive taxes
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 12:24 PM
Wut
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cbass 16-Nov-20 12:24 PM
because flat taxes are discriminatory to the lower class
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:25 PM
AHHDJFJHJHKSJJGH
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cbass 16-Nov-20 12:25 PM
and the MLF is a lefty party
fucking larper
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:25 PM
entj
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:25 PM
is this chat canon (edited)
or not
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:25 PM
fine ima shift the tax rates
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cbass 16-Nov-20 12:25 PM
up to you
lmao
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 12:25 PM
Nigga its not like i know how to map progressive tax rates
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:25 PM
alright then the following message is NOT canon
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cbass 16-Nov-20 12:25 PM
>lefty >doesnt understand prog tax rates
yes 1
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:26 PM
MEGA I SWEAR TO GOD IF YOU PROPOSE A FLAT TAX ONE MORE FUCKING TIME I WILL PHYSICALLY REMOVE YOU OUT OF THIS GODDAMN SERVER
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:26 PM
entj
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 12:26 PM
Never saw the sequence "X%/X%" used
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:26 PM
fine 50/50 prog tax
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:26 PM
a what
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:26 PM
@cbass do you know what are the income levels for the current ax
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 12:26 PM
Give me the info first lol!
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cbass 16-Nov-20 12:26 PM
:pain:
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:26 PM
MEGA
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cbass 16-Nov-20 12:26 PM
oh shit my nitro ran out lol
funwaa 1
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:27 PM
DID YOU EVEN LOOK AT THE DATA CBASS DID FOR THE BUDGET WRITE UP
ITS ALL THERE
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:27 PM
i did
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cbass 16-Nov-20 12:27 PM
Never saw the sequence "X%/X%" used
@Ferry ☭ did you look at the bill
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:27 PM
HOLY JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
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cbass 16-Nov-20 12:27 PM
you tard nugget
complete buffoon
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 12:27 PM
Which one you dumbarse
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cbass 16-Nov-20 12:27 PM
>where are the brackets >doesnt look at the tax bill
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:27 PM
DID YOU EVEN LOOK AT THE DATA CBASS DID FOR THE BUDGET WRITE UP
@Mr.Korrupto it only shows how many people fall into a bracket
not their minimum and maximum income
fuck discord lagging
not their minimum and maximum income
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cbass 16-Nov-20 12:28 PM
look at the bill
lmao
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:28 PM
because its % based
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 12:28 PM
My reaction to this chat honestly
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:29 PM
not min/max income
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:31 PM
🤔
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:32 PM
oh
fuck
e
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character-confusion 16-Nov-20 12:34 PM
Did discord spaz?
Did discord spaz?
Fuck
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:34 PM
test
ctrl+r often
it sends but displays them only after a refresh
post r under this message if you can see it
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 12:36 PM
Hmm
Love to get insulted over not knowning this specific thing about x yet no one told me entj
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Deleted User 16-Nov-20 12:38 PM
Oof
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:40 PM
@Deleted User did you read the ulp bill
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character-confusion 16-Nov-20 12:40 PM
also btw
about the tax thing
tax rates are low for the lowest bracket now
but they were 13% until like 2 months ago
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 12:40 PM
So it's a progressive tax or what
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Deleted User 16-Nov-20 12:40 PM
No but I’ll probably vote for yours
funwaa 1
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character-confusion 16-Nov-20 12:40 PM
so going back up wouldn't make people all that upset
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:40 PM
"probably"
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Deleted User 16-Nov-20 12:41 PM
The other ones are by lefties right?
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:41 PM
@character-confusion its a 3% increase vs old one still
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character-confusion 16-Nov-20 12:41 PM
yeah it is
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 12:41 PM
I didnt even know that was supposed to be a progressive tax.
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:41 PM
The other ones are by lefties right?
@Deleted User the lefty hill doesn't even make that big of changes
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character-confusion 16-Nov-20 12:41 PM
but rn like 60% of taxes are higher than that
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:41 PM
yea, I actually cared to make it more than just budget go brr
@character-confusion the average income one is still lower than the proposed 16% flat
by a single %
but still
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Deleted User 16-Nov-20 12:41 PM
I’ll vote for the ULP bill and have the PNP vote for it also
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character-confusion 16-Nov-20 12:42 PM
@character-confusion the average income one is still lower than the proposed 16% flat
@Mr.Korrupto but median income
is i think higher
so more than half of people pay more
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 12:42 PM
untroll
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:43 PM
troll
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character-confusion 16-Nov-20 12:43 PM
there's a bound on lower end not upper end
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 12:43 PM
Cancel the bill ig
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character-confusion 16-Nov-20 12:43 PM
of course average is higher than median
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:43 PM
yea, prog taxes are based off income levels
the income you earn past a certain amount gets taxed at different rates
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character-confusion 16-Nov-20 12:44 PM
what
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:44 PM
wdym?
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character-confusion 16-Nov-20 12:44 PM
no?
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:45 PM
wdym no
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character-confusion 16-Nov-20 12:45 PM
it's
total income
taxed
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:45 PM
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character-confusion 16-Nov-20 12:46 PM
not in your little bill it's not
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:46 PM
so like someone can have their taxes literally doubled by earning a single extra dollar?
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character-confusion 16-Nov-20 12:46 PM
yes
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:46 PM
not in your little bill it's not
@character-confusion my bill is flat
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character-confusion 16-Nov-20 12:46 PM
the one currently in effect
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:46 PM
yes
@character-confusion how did the economy not completely capsize untroll
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character-confusion 16-Nov-20 12:46 PM
it fucking did
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:46 PM
it did but like bruh
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character-confusion 16-Nov-20 12:47 PM
blame @cbass for creating literally the worst economic bill in existance
and you all for supporting it
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 12:47 PM
entj
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:47 PM
We don't have enough info for making a progressive tax that doesn't suck
so like we can only really do a flat tax or any other tax that can be represented as a linear function of income to tax
quadratic taxes chad
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 12:48 PM
Mfw
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:48 PM
yea...there's no fucking way im doing a prog tax
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:49 PM
im pretty sure the issue with the mlf bill was the mayor cuts without any actual consideration
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 12:49 PM
Mayor cuts..?
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:50 PM
we went from 200 bil budget
to 130
with 100 being actively used
and a 30 bil surplus
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 12:50 PM
Wut
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:50 PM
im pretty sure the issue with the mlf bill was the mayor cuts without any actual consideration
@Mr.Korrupto that and also the fact that earning one more dollar could double your taxes
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character-confusion 16-Nov-20 12:50 PM
also @parm if you want to do progressive taxes you can, you can do it like miko did in his bill where you just kinda say "here are the vague tax rates, i leave it to the experts to work out the exact numbers"
i guess
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:51 PM
also @parm if you want to do progressive taxes you can, you can do it like miko did in his bill where you just kinda say "here are the vague tax rates, i leave it to the experts to work out the exact numbers"
@character-confusion no that's the pussy method. I can emulate progressive taxes by offsetting my flat rate with a constant credit
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:52 PM
"constant credit" I swear to god
UBI THAT WOULD SET BACK THE EFFECTS OF A FLAT 16% INCOME TAX WOULD JUST EAT OUR BUDGET LIKE CHROME EATS RAM
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:52 PM
UBI, but kinda yes really a UBI
just increade the total income tax to like ~40%
maybe even 30
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character-confusion 16-Nov-20 12:52 PM
SEAB: Patrium cannot afford a UBI. We would strongly advise against it.
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:53 PM
ah yes, steal from the worker and then give it back and pretend you're doing them a favor
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:53 PM
ok then
hands tied
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:53 PM
WHAT A GLORIOUS STRATEGY
HOLY FUCK MEGA
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:53 PM
indeed troll
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character-confusion 16-Nov-20 12:53 PM
ah yes, steal from the worker and then give it back and pretend you're doing them a favor
@Mr.Korrupto me when wages
entj 1
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:53 PM
@character-confusion SEAB comin in da clutch
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character-confusion 16-Nov-20 12:53 PM
anyway you can implement a UBI if you want
i'm not gonna physically stop you
i didn't physically stop cbass from his tax bill
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:54 PM
I'll figure out a way to fund it or i'll just keep the 16% income tax
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:54 PM
lvt fucks over the farmer
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:54 PM
16% income tax with funded public services shouldn't be bad
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:54 PM
40% income tax fucks over the worker
you dont have options (edited)
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:54 PM
lvt fucks over the farmer
@Mr.Korrupto miko really be betraying his nigga george
troll 2
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:54 PM
look at the data we have
it does
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:54 PM
i don't untroll
well
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:55 PM
unless I can carefully adjust EVERY bit once maybe proper data is given to us by mods
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:55 PM
yea 16% flat tax is it
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:55 PM
I wont risk it with an LVT
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character-confusion 16-Nov-20 12:55 PM
oooo we about to have a june reprise with farmer's riots entj
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:55 PM
oooo we about to have a june reprise with farmer's riots :entj:
@character-confusion AWA 2.0 chad
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 12:56 PM
>georgist >"lvt bad" ??
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character-confusion 16-Nov-20 12:56 PM
>creates tax affecting farmers almost exclusively >"here have a cucked union to make up for it"
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:56 PM
>georgist >"lvt bad" ??
@Ferry ☭ lvt good when I can actually tune it
with the current data
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 12:56 PM
Hmm
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:56 PM
I cant
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:57 PM
@Ferry ☭ lvt good when I can actually tune it
@Mr.Korrupto means-tested taxation troll
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character-confusion 16-Nov-20 12:57 PM
unless I can carefully adjust EVERY bit once maybe proper data is given to us by mods
@Mr.Korrupto#8023 boohooo
Data is hard
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:57 PM
my ideal would be a progressive LVT, on either land value or income you earn more income? great, you can afford a bigger lvt entj
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 12:57 PM
Whatever just replace income taxes with corporation taxes
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:58 PM
or land value x land size
with nice brackets
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:58 PM
Data is hard
@character-confusion it is
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:58 PM
to save farmers
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:58 PM
but like we stuck with a flat tax until you give the data because i am NOT cucking myself to some coastal elite SEAB bitchboys to make a tax code (edited)
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 12:58 PM
>x land size >with nice brackets Then what are you bitching about (edited)
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:58 PM
@Ferry ☭ mods
cbass is refusing
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character-confusion 16-Nov-20 12:58 PM
but like we stuck with a flat tax until you give the data because i am NOT cucking myself to some coastal elite SEAB bitchboys to make a tax code
@parm bruh
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 12:59 PM
Cbass seems like an ass lol
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:59 PM
to calculate an lvt with brackets or anything other than a flat lvt
LMFAO
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:59 PM
@parm bruh
@character-confusion yea i aint lazy 😤
Cbass seems like an ass lol
@Ferry ☭ nah he da homie
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:59 PM
rip Ferry in the eyes of Jasper
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 12:59 PM
What
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:59 PM
he's also @no mod bias here
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 12:59 PM
Yeah?
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parm 16-Nov-20 12:59 PM
What
@Ferry ☭ dat mantis ethnostate booster dude
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cbass 16-Nov-20 12:59 PM
bruh
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 12:59 PM
the coastal elite bitchboys are useful
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 01:00 PM
untroll
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cbass 16-Nov-20 01:00 PM
damn ferry i thought we were chill
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 01:00 PM
which I know personally, considering I was the one that passed SEAB entj
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parm 16-Nov-20 01:00 PM
yea but like it's almost cheating to have them create a tax code for us
entj
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cbass 16-Nov-20 01:00 PM
^
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 01:00 PM
I CREATED THAT SHIT
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 01:00 PM
Wut
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 01:00 PM
SO I WILL USE IT
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parm 16-Nov-20 01:00 PM
which I know personally, considering I was the one that passed SEAB entj
@Mr.Korrupto i had a bill that would have turned SEAB into a central planning agency troll
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 01:00 PM
complaints can be made over at 1-800-fuck-you
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 01:00 PM
😕
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 01:02 PM
Elites? Fuck 'em
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 01:03 PM
Anti-elitism gang
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character-confusion 16-Nov-20 01:03 PM
Damn, how dare those people check notes understand economics?
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cbass 16-Nov-20 01:04 PM
ferry says fuck the elites but supports a flat income tax
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parm 16-Nov-20 01:04 PM
Damn, how dare those people check notes understand economics?
@character-confusion >authleft
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character-confusion 16-Nov-20 01:04 PM
You know who was anti-elitist and put incompetents in charge of the economy?
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parm 16-Nov-20 01:04 PM
entj
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character-confusion 16-Nov-20 01:04 PM
maoism
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parm 16-Nov-20 01:04 PM
You know who was anti-elitist and put incompetents in charge of the economy?
@character-confusion holy fuck character betraying mao
how
how
how
o wait
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 01:04 PM
Character being based for once :tro:
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 01:04 PM
ferry says fuck the elites but supports a flat income tax
@cbass only because someone didnt specify that the tax was progressive
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cbass 16-Nov-20 01:06 PM
@cbass only because someone didnt specify that the tax was progressive
@Ferry ☭ should've looked at the bill huh
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 01:06 PM
WHAT BILL NIGGA
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character-confusion 16-Nov-20 01:06 PM
Fuck wrong bill
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cbass 16-Nov-20 01:07 PM
same bill i linked before
no that was the right one
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parm 16-Nov-20 01:07 PM
Demilitarization Act Written by Senator Jack Beifong, MLF Article I: Budget Balancing The current budget for the Department of Defense accounts for 42% of the total national spending. The new spending shall be decreased to roughly one third its current, from $89.2 billion to $...
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 01:07 PM
Ok
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parm 16-Nov-20 01:08 PM
time to enact austerity troll
(/s)
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character-confusion 16-Nov-20 01:08 PM
@character-confusion holy fuck character betraying mao
@parm Mao is based but he’s also a fucking idiot
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cbass 16-Nov-20 01:08 PM
everyone blames my bill but no one says why 😔
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character-confusion 16-Nov-20 01:08 PM
We said why many times
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 01:09 PM
Just dont tax lower class people at all
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cbass 16-Nov-20 01:09 PM
i don't fink so
Just dont tax lower class people at all
@Ferry ☭ i got told no
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 01:09 PM
gh
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cbass 16-Nov-20 01:09 PM
by the rightoids
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 01:09 PM
Lol
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parm 16-Nov-20 01:10 PM
everyone blames my bill but no one says why 😔
@cbass 1) super large surplus 2) underfunded everything 3) fucked the incme tax so that someone could pay double the tax by just earning a single dollar more
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cbass 16-Nov-20 01:10 PM
imagine not knowing how progressive income taxes work 😳
and yeah everything was underfunded but you all voted for it anyway
it's not really my fault 🤷‍♀️
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parm 16-Nov-20 01:10 PM
imagine not knowing how progressive income taxes work 😳
@cbass yea ik how progressve taxes work but you just put different flat rates for different people, not income level
and yeah everything was underfunded but you all voted for it anyway
@cbass BRUHHHHH
entj
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cbass 16-Nov-20 01:11 PM
that bill passed with flying colors
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parm 16-Nov-20 01:11 PM
this just in: jack beifong admits that he did norhing
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 01:11 PM
Also hold on, we dont fund healthcare?
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parm 16-Nov-20 01:11 PM
we do
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cbass 16-Nov-20 01:11 PM
it's sorted under medicare
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 01:11 PM
Why is it called medicare Thonking
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cbass 16-Nov-20 01:11 PM
because fuck you
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 01:11 PM
untroll
No u
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character-confusion 16-Nov-20 01:13 PM
and yeah everything was underfunded but you all voted for it anyway
@cbass this is why it’s hard for us mods not to interfere when you all are shooting yourselves in the foot
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 01:13 PM
Also we still need the land value x land size or whatever miko is talking about
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cbass 16-Nov-20 01:13 PM
that's unfortunate
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 01:14 PM
idk I'm waiting it out
with lvt
will do it as a separate bill
I wont push cbass mods to their limit
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Ferry ☭ 16-Nov-20 01:15 PM
gh
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cbass 16-Nov-20 01:15 PM
thanks miko
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 01:16 PM
not sure about mega
he might still be a threat
to your sanity
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cbass 16-Nov-20 01:16 PM
because im this close to deciding that the united states decided we're all too retarded to live and nuke the whole fucking country
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parm 16-Nov-20 01:17 PM
im just gonna roll w/ my income tax
so it's just a flat tax for no
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cbass 16-Nov-20 01:18 PM
>leftist >flat tax
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parm 16-Nov-20 01:18 PM
>leftist >flat tax
@cbass you won't give us enough info to make a non-shit progressive tax
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cbass 16-Nov-20 01:19 PM
because im the only mod that has actually done anything helpful in like a week
im tired
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parm 16-Nov-20 01:20 PM
because im the only mod that has actually done anything helpful in like a week
@cbass well, im not asking anything from u rn smh
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cbass 16-Nov-20 01:20 PM
you literally just did
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parm 16-Nov-20 01:20 PM
im just doing a flat tax not to destroy your snairt
sanity
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Dieselkeough 16-Nov-20 03:19 PM
Do you think you could keep any tax alterations we have?
Like the charity tax cuts
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character-confusion 16-Nov-20 03:22 PM
i believe they're only messing with income tax
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Dieselkeough 16-Nov-20 03:24 PM
Ah.
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cbass 16-Nov-20 03:41 PM
possibly adding an lvt
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Mr.Korrupto 16-Nov-20 06:40 PM
Im not
Mega might go crazy and do it
But for now I wont
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parm 16-Nov-20 06:41 PM
im not either
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 16-Nov-20 06:42 PM
how about
a 2 Child Tax :clueless:
a tax for having 2 or more children
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cbass 16-Nov-20 06:44 PM
😳
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Sen. Mihiwihi 16-Nov-20 06:45 PM
decrease the population of patrium?
😳 1
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 16-Nov-20 06:48 PM
a 2 Child Tax :clueless:
@Big Brother (Clement2022) How about a 2 child tax break?
Where we give people money for making more babies
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 16-Nov-20 06:49 PM
@Big Brother (Clement2022) How about a 2 child tax break?
@Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) tax breaks? we are a government not a charity troll
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character-confusion 16-Nov-20 06:50 PM
just have a tax on having less than 2 kids
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 16-Nov-20 06:50 PM
What about a one child tax?
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 16-Nov-20 06:50 PM
but nah, having people engage in sexually promiscuous culture is not incentive to a homogenous society
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 16-Nov-20 06:50 PM
just have a tax on having less than 2 kids
@character-confusion She gets it!
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 16-Nov-20 06:50 PM
ehh, having a kid is good for a homogenous society
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character-confusion 16-Nov-20 06:50 PM
gotta pump out those little patiran loyalists
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 16-Nov-20 06:50 PM
We want population!
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 16-Nov-20 06:50 PM
all I'm saying is China is the 2nd largest economy...
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 16-Nov-20 06:51 PM
Because they have a lot of people
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Sen. Mihiwihi 16-Nov-20 06:51 PM
cus they have a bunch of cheap labor
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 16-Nov-20 06:51 PM
Which we don't
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Sen. Mihiwihi 16-Nov-20 06:51 PM
exactly
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 16-Nov-20 06:51 PM
wha
dont we have like
50-100 mil
population
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 16-Nov-20 06:51 PM
We must force people to have 12 children each
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Sen. Mihiwihi 16-Nov-20 06:51 PM
china has 1 billion or something
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character-confusion 16-Nov-20 06:51 PM
indeed it does (edited)
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 16-Nov-20 06:52 PM
ok 30 million
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Sen. Mihiwihi 16-Nov-20 06:52 PM
and i wouldnt force it
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 16-Nov-20 06:52 PM
probably more now tho
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character-confusion 16-Nov-20 06:52 PM
we have like
42M?
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Sen. Mihiwihi 16-Nov-20 06:52 PM
people's choice
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 16-Nov-20 06:52 PM
since then since we annexed PAR
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character-confusion 16-Nov-20 06:52 PM
yeah since the par
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 16-Nov-20 06:53 PM
anyways, starting off with something small like a 2 child tax will help us enforce our 1 child policy later down the line and our state-mandated gfs troll
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Sen. Mihiwihi 16-Nov-20 06:54 PM
ytho
just let people have as many kids as they want
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 16-Nov-20 06:55 PM
Just force people to make as many children as they can
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Sen. Mihiwihi 16-Nov-20 06:56 PM
but that will increase the rate of childbirth deaths
and mortality rates
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 16-Nov-20 07:06 PM
And?
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 16-Nov-20 07:07 PM
state-mandated gfs troll
@Big Brother (Clement2022) incel communism moment
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 16-Nov-20 07:08 PM
nah, I'm just adopting Nero Shironeko thought
speaking of which, should I invite them to the server?
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parm 16-Nov-20 07:16 PM
yes
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Deleted User 16-Nov-20 07:51 PM
when did PIP gain 6 members
lmao
nice job by them ig
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character-confusion 16-Nov-20 07:52 PM
when ferrok and his crew took over them ig
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cbass 16-Nov-20 07:52 PM
yeah
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Deleted User 16-Nov-20 07:52 PM
cool
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 17-Nov-20 09:27 PM
@Sen. Sapphire R. (She/Her) (PPE) @cheesesoilder @Retiarius @Nazbol-Light @Parks Brit @ZhenDeRen (UTC+8) Greetings senators of the PPE, would any of you be interested in supporting my economic bill? Your party head supports it, but has decided against sponsoring any of the bills. Support would be greatly appreciated.
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Sen. Sapphire R. (She/Her) (PPE) 17-Nov-20 09:27 PM
I would love to see the bill.
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 17-Nov-20 09:27 PM
Option #3
National Production and Construction Act, 2020 Introduced by Sen. Ferrok (LPP) Whereas foreign investment in the Patrian economy declines; Whereas more and more Patrians find themselves worrying where their next meal will come from; Be the following enacted by the Senate o...
So, @Sen. Sapphire R. (She/Her) (PPE), would you consider voting for my economic bill?
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parm 17-Nov-20 09:35 PM
ahh yes, the bill that doesn't solve the issue at hand
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Dieselkeough 17-Nov-20 09:36 PM
Bill 2 is better
PIPs bill doesnt solve the problem at all.
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Sen. Empharius 18-Nov-20 01:23 PM
Does anyone wnat to sign eihter mine or Mega's bill?
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Sen. Julian Titus (Chiang) 18-Nov-20 01:23 PM
I did already
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Jeb 18-Nov-20 01:47 PM
that $5 bill is based
havent read the telecomms one but i am a bit skeptical
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Sen. Empharius 18-Nov-20 02:14 PM
would you like to sign it then @Jeb ?
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Ferry ☭ 18-Nov-20 02:16 PM
I signed it
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Jeb 18-Nov-20 02:16 PM
i already signed the 5$ billl tho
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parm 18-Nov-20 02:17 PM
eyo ultra drop my siggie on there would ya?
@Sen. Empharius ye drop my siggie
on ur bill
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Sen. Empharius 18-Nov-20 02:19 PM
nice
i already signed the 5$ billl tho
@Jeb sorry, misread
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Jeb 18-Nov-20 02:19 PM
aight gucci
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Jeb 18-Nov-20 02:28 PM
"be even more hostile to companies in an economic crisis where being hostile to companies was one of the main problems :hmmm:"
like something more based would've been introduce the governemtn to the market to cause competition and have the companies strive for a better quality service
not just eliminate the market alltogether
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parm 18-Nov-20 02:29 PM
utilities just can't have a market
it's a natural monopoly
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Jeb 18-Nov-20 02:29 PM
when regulated properly they can
you just hate capitalism in general smh
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Sen. Empharius 18-Nov-20 02:30 PM
like something more based would've been introduce the governemtn to the market to cause competition and have the companies strive for a better quality service
@Jeb fuck it, I can do that
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parm 18-Nov-20 02:30 PM
I mean....it would naturally become a monopoly or it would be inefficient
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Sen. Empharius 18-Nov-20 02:30 PM
I have a terrible economic idae I can do
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Jeb 18-Nov-20 02:30 PM
I mean....it would naturally become a monopoly or it would be inefficient
@parm no
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parm 18-Nov-20 02:31 PM
@parm no
@Jeb unless you want four separate networks servicing the same area then yes
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Jeb 18-Nov-20 02:31 PM
@Jeb unless you want four separate networks servicing the same area then yes
@parm isnt that how it works already
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parm 18-Nov-20 02:31 PM
@parm isnt that how it works already
@Jeb yea and it's inefficient as FUCK
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Jeb 18-Nov-20 02:32 PM
i dont think a city should be restricted to a single internet provider
like at least not a large one
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parm 18-Nov-20 02:32 PM
what does an internet provider do? (rhetorical question) (edited)
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Jeb 18-Nov-20 02:32 PM
utility companies should work WITH the government y'know
plan out how stuff i gonna work and where
build infraestructure
you can't just completely delete that section of the market
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Sen. Empharius 18-Nov-20 02:33 PM
the government should just won the utilities lmao
provide them for free
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Jeb 18-Nov-20 02:33 PM
what does an internet provider do? (rhetorical question)
@parm provide internet infraestructure and communication with servers in the internet
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parm 18-Nov-20 02:33 PM
build infraestructure
@Jeb if you have several separate networks for internet in the same area then it's enefficient
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Jeb 18-Nov-20 02:33 PM
provide them for free
@Sen. Empharius expensive AND communist
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parm 18-Nov-20 02:34 PM
having one publicly owned network is way more efficient
you can even see this in towns that have their own municipal broadband system
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Jeb 18-Nov-20 02:34 PM
@Jeb if you have several separate networks for internet in the same area then it's enefficient
@parm thats why i said the whole working WITH the government thing was necessary
to plan ahead n stuff
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parm 18-Nov-20 02:34 PM
@parm thats why i said the whole working WITH the government thing was necessary
@Jeb why not just own the utilitied
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Sen. Empharius 18-Nov-20 02:34 PM
@Sen. Empharius expensive AND communist
@Jeb and?
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parm 18-Nov-20 02:35 PM
it's literally just a middleman
market forces aren't even at play here
and that's practically a government enforced monopoly
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Jeb 18-Nov-20 02:35 PM
@Jeb why not just own the utilitied
"why not destroy another section of the market in a time where that leads us ever deeper into economic doom"
(edited)
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parm 18-Nov-20 02:35 PM
How would public ownership be worse than private ownership?
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Jeb 18-Nov-20 02:36 PM
market and economics
your entire point is "why not socialism"
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Sen. Empharius 18-Nov-20 02:36 PM
lmao there is no disadvantage to the government owning it, unless the government is super corrupt
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parm 18-Nov-20 02:36 PM
market and economics
@Jeb BUT MARKET FORCES AREN'T EVEN AT PLAY HERE THO
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Sen. Empharius 18-Nov-20 02:36 PM
the market doesnt effect utilities anyway
even in the USA thier government supported, private monopolies
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parm 18-Nov-20 02:37 PM
^
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Sen. Empharius 18-Nov-20 02:37 PM
with thier prices limited
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Jeb 18-Nov-20 02:37 PM
unless the government is super corrupt
@Sen. Empharius weeeeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllllllll
entj 1
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parm 18-Nov-20 02:37 PM
market forces don't work with utilities
@Sen. Empharius weeeeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllllllll
@Jeb entj not as corrupt as our companies troll
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Sen. Empharius 18-Nov-20 02:37 PM
^^^^
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Jeb 18-Nov-20 02:37 PM
ok gommunist (edited)
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parm 18-Nov-20 02:38 PM
gommunsit
troll
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Jeb 18-Nov-20 02:39 PM
even in the USA thier government supported, private monopolies
@Sen. Empharius why do you think ive mentioned like 3 times that the companies should work with the govment
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parm 18-Nov-20 02:39 PM
@Sen. Empharius why do you think ive mentioned like 3 times that the companies should work with the govment
@Jeb but that's just an unnecessary middleman boohooo
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Jeb 18-Nov-20 02:39 PM
im not saying they should be left free to ask 100 dollars per second of internet
i am saying however that the market should still exist
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Sen. Empharius 18-Nov-20 02:40 PM
just have the government give it for free lmao
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Jeb 18-Nov-20 02:40 PM
just have the government give it for free lmao
@Sen. Empharius cringe!
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Sen. Empharius 18-Nov-20 02:40 PM
it isnt that expensive
and were a government, we can run a deficit. Hell, we should be running a deficit or breaking even
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Jeb 18-Nov-20 02:41 PM
not even cuba (country gommunists most commonly simp for) has 100% free internet
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Sen. Empharius 18-Nov-20 02:41 PM
surplusses are bad if your a government
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Jeb 18-Nov-20 02:41 PM
@Sen. Empharius oh wow the libertarians weren't wrong when they said socialists dont know about economics
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Sen. Empharius 18-Nov-20 02:42 PM
that isnt a socialist principle lmao
that's basic keynsianism
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parm 18-Nov-20 02:42 PM
i am saying however that the market should still exist
@Jeb BUT MARKET FORCES LITERALLY DONT APPLY TO UTILITIES
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Sen. Empharius 18-Nov-20 02:42 PM
any money a government has in surplus is money they arent spending to better the lives of thier people, and biuld up the economy
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parm 18-Nov-20 02:43 PM
that's basic keynsianism
@Sen. Empharius oh dear, keynesianism :cursed:
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Jeb 18-Nov-20 02:43 PM
any money a government has in surplus is money they arent spending to better the lives of thier people, and biuld up the economy
@Sen. Empharius what i was refering to was you basically saying it doesnt matter if we run the country's economy to the ground
(edited)
@Jeb BUT MARKET FORCES LITERALLY DONT APPLY TO UTILITIES
are you sure
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Sen. Empharius 18-Nov-20 02:44 PM
@Sen. Empharius what i was refering to was you basically saying it doesnt matter if we run the country's economy to the ground
@Jeb what's the worst that can happen? Debt? As long as we can kick the economy back into gear debt is fine
a deficit isnt a inherently bad thing for a government
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Jeb 18-Nov-20 02:45 PM
a slight and coordinated one probably isnt
youre saying we should destroy the economy and get into large debt
thats not how any of this works
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Sen. Empharius 18-Nov-20 02:46 PM
as long as the economy gets kicked back into high gear, that's what matters
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parm 18-Nov-20 02:47 PM
are you sure
@Jeb they don't
either companies naturally consolidate themselves into monopolies or the government steps in and distorts market forces
and when the government steps in, might as well get rid of the middle man
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Jeb 18-Nov-20 02:48 PM
as long as the economy gets kicked back into high gear, that's what matters
@Sen. Empharius look you can't crash your car into a tree at 120kph, ONLY replace the engine, and expect it to work
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parm 18-Nov-20 02:48 PM
:clueless:
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Jeb 18-Nov-20 02:48 PM
and when the government steps in, might as well get rid of the middle man
@parm there will still be some form of market and competition between companies my man
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Sen. Empharius 18-Nov-20 02:49 PM
@Sen. Empharius look you can't crash your car into a tree at 120kph, ONLY replace the engine, and expect it to work
@Jeb debt isnt an inherently bad thing as long as our economy grows faster then teh debt can
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parm 18-Nov-20 02:49 PM
@parm there will still be some form of market and competition between companies my man
@Jeb dude...look at the US rn. deregulated telecom and almost no competition
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Jeb 18-Nov-20 02:49 PM
@Jeb debt isnt an inherently bad thing as long as our economy grows faster then teh debt can
@Sen. Empharius so... not a deficit
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Sen. Empharius 18-Nov-20 02:50 PM
yes a deficit
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Jeb 18-Nov-20 02:50 PM
@Jeb dude...look at the US rn. deregulated telecom and almost no competition
@parm nigga where the fuck these claims coming from, your ass? companies still have some sort of competition as they fight for certain areas n stuff
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Sen. Empharius 18-Nov-20 02:50 PM
I mean the economy as a whole, not how much the government is making
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Jeb 18-Nov-20 02:50 PM
shit like poland where the government stepped into the market as its own "company" caused the quality and price to improve (edited)
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Sen. Empharius 18-Nov-20 02:51 PM
if you take in 100$ of debt due to your deficit, but that deficit grows the ecnomy by 200$ your in the clear
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Jeb 18-Nov-20 02:51 PM
if you take in 100$ of debt due to your deficit, but that deficit grows the ecnomy by 200$ your in the clear
@Sen. Empharius true
i think the debate with ultra was more about grammar than anything tbh
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Sen. Empharius 18-Nov-20 02:52 PM
maybe
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parm 18-Nov-20 02:54 PM
@parm nigga where the fuck these claims coming from, your ass? companies still have some sort of competition as they fight for certain areas n stuff
@Jeb https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2020/2/18/21126347/antitrust-monopolies-internet-telecommunications-cheerleading
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Jeb 18-Nov-20 02:55 PM
mucho texto
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parm 18-Nov-20 02:55 PM
smh
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 18-Nov-20 03:22 PM
Isn’t minimum wage $6?
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parm 18-Nov-20 03:22 PM
Isn’t minimum wage $6?
@Senator Morshu Ferrok it's $3.50 afaik
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 18-Nov-20 03:22 PM
Oh
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cbass 18-Nov-20 03:25 PM
yeah it's 3.50
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 18-Nov-20 04:02 PM
@Sen. Empharius sign me in for me pls
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Sen. Empharius 18-Nov-20 04:11 PM
alright
I need 7 right?
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 18-Nov-20 04:14 PM
@parm Sign me in the telecom bill too
I need 7 right?
@Sen. Empharius yup
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parm 18-Nov-20 04:14 PM
ight thx
one more sig
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cbass 18-Nov-20 04:16 PM
@Sen. Empharius i have a suggestion for your bill so as to not hurt private enterprise so much, if you're interested in listening
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parm 18-Nov-20 04:18 PM
ight i just need one more siggie on my bill
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Sen. Empharius 18-Nov-20 04:19 PM
@Sen. Empharius i have a suggestion for your bill so as to not hurt private enterprise so much, if you're interested in listening
@cbass what?
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cbass 18-Nov-20 04:19 PM
your bill targets the businesses themselves rather than acknowledging that the patrian economy simply is not strong enough to support a $5 minimum wage
so i just suggest that you subsidize the businesses that can't afford to pay their workers that much, rather than punish them
because you'll run into the issue where now you're adding unemployment to the mix of problems because if they can't afford to pay a worker, the worker will get let go
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Sen. Empharius 18-Nov-20 04:21 PM
Hmm
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cbass 18-Nov-20 04:22 PM
that bill won't actually help the worker, i hate to break it to you
we're dealing with small businesses, not multinational corporations
and in a lot of cases, they genuinely can't afford to pay that much
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Sen. Empharius 18-Nov-20 04:27 PM
What would you recommend I add?
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Sen. James Durham 18-Nov-20 04:40 PM
just add a clause raising it for multinational corporations/those with over 50 employees/consistent contractors
kind of how obama did with ObamaCare
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Sen. Empharius 18-Nov-20 04:43 PM
Good idea
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cbass 18-Nov-20 05:54 PM
@Sen. Empharius modification looks,,,,,alright
not perfect but
it's better
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Sen. Empharius 19-Nov-20 10:27 AM
I only need one more sig for the 5$ act
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Ferry ☭ 19-Nov-20 10:28 AM
Hmm
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Sen. James Durham 19-Nov-20 05:52 PM
Is the PEA based off of the TVA
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parm 19-Nov-20 05:52 PM
yes actually
based TVA
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Sen. James Durham 19-Nov-20 05:54 PM
Reagan denounced the TVA in 1964 (edited)
therefore PEA uber cringe and unbased
AND A FUCKING LOAN FROM THE PRC
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parm 19-Nov-20 06:04 PM
entj
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Senator Evans 19-Nov-20 06:14 PM
Oh no a low interest loan from an international creditor
whatever shall we dooooooo
Also it’s a bank, not their government, and as I recall we owe like hundreds of billions to the us?
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Sen. James Durham 19-Nov-20 06:49 PM
A private company in China majority owned by Chinese might as well be the government
Also China is literally cracking down on megacorps as we speak
Like TenCent etc.
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Senator Evans 19-Nov-20 06:50 PM
I mean compared to what we owe to the USA rn this is next to nothing, I just think it’s a good idea to diversify our creditors
So that nobody owns us
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Sen. James Durham 19-Nov-20 06:50 PM
That's smart
but
PRC
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Senator Evans 19-Nov-20 06:51 PM
Refer to the above^
troll
We just need cash boohooo
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Sen. James Durham 19-Nov-20 06:51 PM
I cannot overcome my pre-conceived notions and bias about the Chinese COMMUNIST Party
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Senator Evans 19-Nov-20 06:51 PM
C o m m u n i s t
M e g a c o r p o r a t i o n
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character-confusion 19-Nov-20 06:52 PM
what money do we owe the US? war debt? we paid off our war debt
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Sen. James Durham 19-Nov-20 06:52 PM
(the chinese are basically modern nazis but lets ignore that :)))))
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Senator Evans 19-Nov-20 06:52 PM
@character-confusion shit
Then what’s the 400 billion ?
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character-confusion 19-Nov-20 06:52 PM
that's uh
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Senator Evans 19-Nov-20 06:52 PM
Or is that no longer a thing
Like
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character-confusion 19-Nov-20 06:52 PM
deficit
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Senator Evans 19-Nov-20 06:52 PM
Wait
That’s the yearly loss?
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Sen. James Durham 19-Nov-20 06:52 PM
Holy shit
that's pretty fucking bad
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Senator Evans 19-Nov-20 06:52 PM
entj
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Sen. James Durham 19-Nov-20 06:52 PM
Why did I vote to lower taxes '
oh god oh fuck
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Senator Evans 19-Nov-20 06:53 PM
Wait and we passed tax cuts
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parm 19-Nov-20 06:53 PM
wait
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Sen. James Durham 19-Nov-20 06:53 PM
entj
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Senator Evans 19-Nov-20 06:53 PM
in this economy
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character-confusion 19-Nov-20 06:53 PM
no
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parm 19-Nov-20 06:53 PM
@Sen. James Durham remember my master plan?
this is step one troll
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character-confusion 19-Nov-20 06:53 PM
we used to run at a decifit of around $25B
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Senator Evans 19-Nov-20 06:53 PM
welp time to introduce a tax bill
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character-confusion 19-Nov-20 06:53 PM
400B is accumulated
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Sen. James Durham 19-Nov-20 06:53 PM
@parm dont tell me you actually voted for the lolberts bill
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Senator Evans 19-Nov-20 06:53 PM
Oh so it’s just the total debt
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parm 19-Nov-20 06:53 PM
no, im talking about china
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Senator Evans 19-Nov-20 06:53 PM
But to who?
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character-confusion 19-Nov-20 06:53 PM
idk
does it have to be to someone?
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Sen. James Durham 19-Nov-20 06:54 PM
@parm Oh that plan
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character-confusion 19-Nov-20 06:54 PM
i guess it does
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Sen. James Durham 19-Nov-20 06:54 PM
bwhahahahahahhahah
BASED
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parm 19-Nov-20 06:54 PM
entj
indeed
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Senator Evans 19-Nov-20 06:54 PM
cursed
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parm 19-Nov-20 06:54 PM
not cursed
based
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character-confusion 19-Nov-20 06:54 PM
@cbass who do we owe our deficit to?
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Sen. James Durham 19-Nov-20 06:54 PM
It does have to be to somebody
but it could just be to private shareholders (edited)
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Senator Evans 19-Nov-20 06:54 PM
Also @character-confusion how many patrians are without electricity
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Sen. James Durham 19-Nov-20 06:54 PM
or loaners in this instance
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character-confusion 19-Nov-20 06:54 PM
uh
idk
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Sen. James Durham 19-Nov-20 06:54 PM
wait it would be creditors
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parm 19-Nov-20 06:54 PM
i was just gonna say to devalue the debt but we use the rupee so we cant piss off india
gh
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Senator Evans 19-Nov-20 06:55 PM
@Sen. James Durham Idk if we have that many private investors buying bonds
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character-confusion 19-Nov-20 06:55 PM
5%?
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Senator Evans 19-Nov-20 06:55 PM
What’s our population again?
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character-confusion 19-Nov-20 06:55 PM
42M?
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parm 19-Nov-20 06:55 PM
time for autarky chad
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Senator Evans 19-Nov-20 06:55 PM
Nice
Avatar character-confusion 42M?
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parm 19-Nov-20 06:55 PM
SINCE WHEN
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character-confusion 19-Nov-20 06:55 PM
no
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parm 19-Nov-20 06:55 PM
i thought it was 31M
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character-confusion 19-Nov-20 06:55 PM
39M population
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parm 19-Nov-20 06:55 PM
bruh since WHEN
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character-confusion 19-Nov-20 06:55 PM
well we aquired part of thuzland
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parm 19-Nov-20 06:55 PM
oh
well you didn't put that in the budget shit
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Senator Evans 19-Nov-20 06:55 PM
So I have like 2 million people worth of extra electricity
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parm 19-Nov-20 06:55 PM
or in lore
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Senator Evans 19-Nov-20 06:55 PM
Export tiiime
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character-confusion 19-Nov-20 06:56 PM
i most certainly did
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Senator Evans 19-Nov-20 06:56 PM
(Assuming this shit passes)
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character-confusion 19-Nov-20 06:56 PM
well cbass made the budget
and i'm pretty sure he did
Avatar character-confusion i most certainly did
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parm 19-Nov-20 06:56 PM
the budget showed 31M for income tax
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character-confusion 19-Nov-20 06:56 PM
huh
🤷‍♂️
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parm 19-Nov-20 06:57 PM
deez niggas be trippin hard
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Senator Evans 19-Nov-20 06:57 PM
also @character-confusion thuziland was forced to do neoliberal free trade shit by the USA right?
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character-confusion 19-Nov-20 06:57 PM
more or less
yeah
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Senator Evans 19-Nov-20 06:57 PM
Heheh
so exporting power to them will be fun
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character-confusion 19-Nov-20 06:58 PM
@parm assume that PAR income taxes go to the PAR government
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parm 19-Nov-20 06:58 PM
ahh ok
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Senator Evans 19-Nov-20 06:58 PM
Let’s leave the thuzis alone
for now
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parm 19-Nov-20 06:59 PM
Thuzland Special Economic Zone
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Senator Evans 19-Nov-20 07:00 PM
We can make vocational training camps
That or we could just take their citizenship and then be able to justify being horrific to them
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character-confusion 19-Nov-20 07:00 PM
we had labor camps at one point
they kidnapped some senators
and people decided to grow a conscience
😔
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parm 19-Nov-20 07:05 PM
genocide entj
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character-confusion 19-Nov-20 07:05 PM
smh it's not genocide if you don't kill them
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Senator Evans 19-Nov-20 07:05 PM
I mean both super powers would be cool with my proposal untroll
entj 1
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parm 19-Nov-20 07:06 PM
genocide doesn't just mean killing lol it can also mean basically killing their cultural identity or dehumanizing them
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character-confusion 19-Nov-20 07:06 PM
-cide means kill untroll
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parm 19-Nov-20 07:06 PM
now where have we seen said superpowers committing genocide troll
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Senator Evans 19-Nov-20 07:06 PM
@character-confusion cultural genocide exists
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character-confusion 19-Nov-20 07:07 PM
sure
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Senator Evans 19-Nov-20 07:07 PM
B u t
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character-confusion 19-Nov-20 07:07 PM
cultural genocide as opposed to regular genocide
yes?
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Senator Evans 19-Nov-20 07:07 PM
Eh you’re still effectively erasing a group of people
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parm 19-Nov-20 07:07 PM
(a) Killing members of the group; (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
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character-confusion 19-Nov-20 07:07 PM
there are more of them smh
they have a whole country
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parm 19-Nov-20 07:08 PM
this falls under (b) and (c)
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character-confusion 19-Nov-20 07:08 PM
it certainly does not
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parm 19-Nov-20 07:08 PM
"being horrific to them" certainly does tho
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character-confusion 19-Nov-20 07:09 PM
horrific is subjective
calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
this is not the goal
so doesn't apply
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cbass 19-Nov-20 07:14 PM
i wish i knew
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character-confusion 19-Nov-20 07:15 PM
we should uh
probably
figure that out
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parm 19-Nov-20 07:24 PM
According to modern monetary theory, nobodyentj
The deficit was caused by spending more on government programs, which means that we're giving money we don't have to govt workers
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character-confusion 19-Nov-20 07:26 PM
yes but the question was whether that money is just that, or if it comes form somewhere
plenty of countries run at a deficit because they borrowed money
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parm 19-Nov-20 07:27 PM
Maybe notes and bonds?
Damn PCBI really taught me more about liberal economics than all of schoolentj
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Senator Evans 19-Nov-20 07:30 PM
But bonds means that a lot of private investors would see Patrian debt as a secure place to invest money entj
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Senator Mucus 19-Nov-20 10:37 PM
The energy bill seems based, you can add my signature if you’d like.
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character-confusion 19-Nov-20 10:44 PM
@Senator Evans
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Senator Evans 20-Nov-20 05:14 AM
@Senator Mucus yeee
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 23-Nov-20 11:52 AM
I’m apprehensive towards giving China any sort of base on Jazira much more Patrium itself
I like the idea of training with Chinese forces however
We can sell their information to India
troll
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Sen. James Durham 23-Nov-20 12:20 PM
It is much more towards building relationships with them
If I was a tankie I would make the port just a massive new installment instead of a few buildings and an airstrip of an extension from the British one
Besides, this way we get to play both sides
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Senator Evans 23-Nov-20 12:29 PM
Eh also the it’s been specifically made so that if either the Chinese or the Brits pull out then the other sides facilities will kind of be dead in the water, so it’s not like China has its own massive ass fortress
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parm 23-Nov-20 12:45 PM
true
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Sen. James Durham 23-Nov-20 12:54 PM
True, so they cannot just pull out and now we have a huge naval base for no reason
although i wouldnt be opposed to that tbh :P (edited)
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Deleted User 23-Nov-20 12:55 PM
well we are just breaking ground
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Senator Evans 23-Nov-20 12:56 PM
but eh either way the Brits or China can’t have much more than a relatively small task force operating out of this base
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Sen. James Durham 23-Nov-20 12:57 PM
Yeah they are allowed one strike group to stay there permanently, and cannot have more than that
and they can't have more than 1 combat battalion at one time for more than 6 weeks out of the year, and that's capped at 3 combat battalions, since they have 2 training with us for 3 weeks
Also we train with them 50 km from Thuzlands border chad
And with China 25 km
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Senator Evans 23-Nov-20 01:27 PM
Heheh
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cbass 24-Nov-20 08:00 PM
@Dieselkeough because that makes sense lmao
obviously
just be like mega and compress into one treaty smh
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Dieselkeough 24-Nov-20 08:01 PM
not really, i mean i have written a bill that is intended to have two groups of course i could talk to both india and england about it to have both approve of that route
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cbass 24-Nov-20 08:01 PM
thats dope amigo
unfortunately im too tired to care to argue about it with you
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Dieselkeough 24-Nov-20 08:01 PM
but me and mega have two different bills on how to proceed
not one
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cbass 24-Nov-20 08:01 PM
save your paragraphs for someone else ❤️
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Dieselkeough 24-Nov-20 08:02 PM
so we cant both work together and also have two different bills containing different strategies
with only one winning
you have to choose one
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cbass 24-Nov-20 08:02 PM
you could always just work together luv
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Dieselkeough 24-Nov-20 08:02 PM
we have different plans on how to improve things
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cbass 24-Nov-20 08:02 PM
then compete?
thats the point
oh dear
you've missed the point
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parm 24-Nov-20 08:02 PM
i want an epicly long blli
ten pages long chad
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cbass 24-Nov-20 08:03 PM
mega do you think its reasonable to only allow one?
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parm 24-Nov-20 08:03 PM
perhaps
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Dieselkeough 24-Nov-20 08:03 PM
the way we were operating things before was better
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cbass 24-Nov-20 08:03 PM
k
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Dieselkeough 24-Nov-20 08:03 PM
tbhy
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parm 24-Nov-20 08:03 PM
actually yes
tbh
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cbass 24-Nov-20 08:03 PM
this isnt a change from before
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Dieselkeough 24-Nov-20 08:03 PM
i dont like this new thing
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cbass 24-Nov-20 08:03 PM
twas a reminder
not a change
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parm 24-Nov-20 08:03 PM
it forces co-operation
which is good
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Dieselkeough 24-Nov-20 08:03 PM
well yeah, but i wrote this stuipidly long bill
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cbass 24-Nov-20 08:03 PM
rip you
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Dieselkeough 24-Nov-20 08:04 PM
and waited for hours only for you to say
oh wait, changed my mind
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cbass 24-Nov-20 08:04 PM
.
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cbass 24-Nov-20 08:04 PM
.
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Dieselkeough 24-Nov-20 08:04 PM
it was definitely a change
in addition countries in the modern era dont jus tmake one bill
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parm 24-Nov-20 08:04 PM
want to make an even stupidly longer bill chad
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Dieselkeough 24-Nov-20 08:04 PM
for one country
they make many
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cbass 24-Nov-20 08:05 PM
well you have fun
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Dieselkeough 24-Nov-20 08:05 PM
for many countries
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cbass 24-Nov-20 08:05 PM
goodnight
sleep tight
dont let the butthurt bite
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Dieselkeough 24-Nov-20 08:05 PM
this is just fucking retarded
i will just remove the foreign policy sections i guess.
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parm 24-Nov-20 08:06 PM
just separate part of the defense production act then ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Deleted User 02-Dec-20 03:26 PM
@parm can you approve my edits
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parm 02-Dec-20 03:26 PM
yessir
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Deleted User 02-Dec-20 03:51 PM
mega why havent u confirmed em yet
smh
it takes 2 seconds
nvm
my computer was rarted
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parm 02-Dec-20 03:52 PM
google docs is fucky
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Deleted User 02-Dec-20 03:52 PM
ye
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Senator Mucus 04-Dec-20 02:59 PM
@parm Hey Mega, based bill, but could it be more meritocratic? We already have a council of economic experts (SEAB), why not put them in charge as opposed to having the senate choose them?
no 3
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Senator Mucus 04-Dec-20 05:49 PM
People keep reacting no, but I’m not sure why. Not wanting experts in charge if the economy is an awful take.
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parm 04-Dec-20 05:52 PM
I mean...they do have to be experts
also
elitism funwaa
Central Economic Bureau Act, 2021 Introduced by Sen. Mega (FSL) Whereas our economy is in shambles due to failed policy; Whereas we need to create an institution to help manage the economy; Be the following enacted by the Senate of Patrium: SECTION 1: SUMMARY This Act aims to consolidate ...
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Senator Mucus 04-Dec-20 05:53 PM
I’m just saying, it seems like you just took the SEAB system and they just decided to remake it.
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parm 04-Dec-20 05:53 PM
well, it's inspured by the SEAb but has way more power
it's supposed to be a consolidation
of public industry
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Senator Mucus 04-Dec-20 05:54 PM
I know, but why not just use the SEAB to run it rather than making SEAB run it.
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Senator Mucus 04-Dec-20 05:55 PM
Not like they’re doing much else. They’ve only been called in for a bill once and they only occasionally pop in to say “oh the economy is fucked”
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Ferry ☭ 05-Dec-20 01:25 AM
Meritocracy doesn't really work at all
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 05-Dec-20 05:12 AM
entj 1
majorcope 1
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Sen. Julian Titus (Chiang) 05-Dec-20 05:15 AM
Lmao
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Deleted User 05-Dec-20 06:50 AM
and thats why we use Democracy, the opposite of having experts and the skilled in charge
chad 3
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:31 AM
@Big Brother (Clement2022) can i see a budget for the nuke bill
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 08:31 AM
@Big Brother (Clement2022) This is extremely based
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:32 AM
its 50 billion bucks tho
thats half the annual budget and all the fun money
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 08:33 AM
F
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 07-Dec-20 08:35 AM
Spread over years tho
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:41 AM
I feel as if there isn’t enough detail/depth
I agree
its too brief
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 07-Dec-20 08:43 AM
Too brief?
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:43 AM
@Sen. Alexander Lanark we need 49% private ownership with the director appointed by the government
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 07-Dec-20 08:43 AM
Fine. 57%. Is that enough for you all to shut up
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:43 AM
no
51-49
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parm 07-Dec-20 08:43 AM
67% minimum
untroll
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:43 AM
too high
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parm 07-Dec-20 08:43 AM
too low
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 08:43 AM
no
its fine
the gov still has a majority
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:43 AM
yeah
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 08:44 AM
whats the problem
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 07-Dec-20 08:44 AM
Pretty high public % for a Commie
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 07-Dec-20 08:44 AM
I suggested the 57% number for you all to shut up
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:44 AM
no thats too high
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 07-Dec-20 08:44 AM
Too high
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:44 AM
51-49
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 07-Dec-20 08:44 AM
49% tops
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 07-Dec-20 08:44 AM
Bitch it's literally just 6% more
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:44 AM
so we dont drain are coughers
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 08:44 AM
51-49 is where it should be
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:44 AM
great its 6% less, whats the issue?
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 07-Dec-20 08:44 AM
Difference is public now has majority
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:44 AM
entj
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 08:44 AM
Just to prevent overspending and to keep the gov in control
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:44 AM
its just 6%? just meet us at our level then
and we should be fine
just 6%
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 07-Dec-20 08:45 AM
Company buys all of it they can just order around the reactor, turning it off whenever they please
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 07-Dec-20 08:45 AM
Let me ask you, do you want an extra 6% or 16%
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 07-Dec-20 08:45 AM
Because they have majority
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 07-Dec-20 08:45 AM
gh
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:45 AM
do you want all hell to break loose with the NCP and LP?
we've been gracious enough to not oppose most of your proposals
so we are asking for this one compromise
51-49
why not have the CEB oversee the government shares or something?
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 08:46 AM
51% public and 49% private
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 07-Dec-20 08:46 AM
I have already increased public ownership by 49%
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:46 AM
i think thats a fair compromise
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 07-Dec-20 08:46 AM
no
Nonononono
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 08:46 AM
and we'll let the CEB control it
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:46 AM
yeah
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 08:46 AM
if the bill writers so desire
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parm 07-Dec-20 08:46 AM
i take it
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:46 AM
the 51% of gov shares will be controlled y the CEB
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 07-Dec-20 08:46 AM
gh
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 07-Dec-20 08:46 AM
49% public ownership 51% government
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 08:46 AM
^
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 07-Dec-20 08:46 AM
No higher
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 08:47 AM
sounds great, with ceb control over the gov shares
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:47 AM
with the 51% controlled by the CEB
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 07-Dec-20 08:47 AM
We shouldn't be so concerned about the percentage...
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 07-Dec-20 08:47 AM
CEB unbased
Yes we should
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:47 AM
yeah but its a compromise
so we should do it
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 08:47 AM
Yeah we shouldn't selling off 33% is the same as 49% in all reality
gov stays in control
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 07-Dec-20 08:47 AM
Gov always in control
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:47 AM
it just lowers are spending
thats the only reason
why raise our spending on this, when it does nothing?
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 07-Dec-20 08:48 AM
ok lets look at it this way
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 07-Dec-20 08:48 AM
Also sign the bill please agony
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:48 AM
i wanna see the changes first
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 07-Dec-20 08:48 AM
if a private corporation wants to build a reactor at some place let's say contributes like $5 billion
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:48 AM
and maybe some detail on how the power networks will be managed
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 07-Dec-20 08:48 AM
we can't just fork over more money
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:49 AM
and who we trade with for uranium
thats a big one
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 07-Dec-20 08:49 AM
like beyond the spending cap
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:49 AM
and what the rates are
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 07-Dec-20 08:49 AM
I’m at school rn
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 08:49 AM
Okay I signed
We technically are asking all nations
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 07-Dec-20 08:49 AM
Will flush out the bill when I get home if it still needs signatures
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:49 AM
Apostolatos shipping is glad to offer the government a low price for the shipping of the uranium
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 08:49 AM
With nuclear power
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:49 AM
if you want to include that in the bill
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 07-Dec-20 08:49 AM
It mentions sourcing in the bill
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:49 AM
what are the rates?
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 07-Dec-20 08:49 AM
Finding uranium deposits on our land
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:50 AM
what does that do for the enviornment?
thats another concern then
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 07-Dec-20 08:50 AM
Uranium mining can be safe
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:50 AM
and if we dont have enough
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 08:50 AM
That I don't care about
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 07-Dec-20 08:50 AM
Just need ventilation underground
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 08:50 AM
:P
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:50 AM
(yeah my character is a conversationalist)
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 07-Dec-20 08:50 AM
bruh
Nuclear energy is one of the best things for the environment
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 07-Dec-20 08:51 AM
We enrich it properly we would go through only ~6-12 kg of u235. Annually for all reactors
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 07-Dec-20 08:51 AM
No carbon emissions
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:51 AM
im talking about the mining
for uranium
nuclear energy is great otherwise
What are the ownership percentages as of right now
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 07-Dec-20 08:51 AM
We have Uranium in Patrium
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:51 AM
i just want it to be eco friendly
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 07-Dec-20 08:51 AM
Deposit of 1000 kg will last 100+ years
Public has 49%
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:52 AM
No, private is 49
Public is 51
Like public as in gov owned
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 07-Dec-20 08:52 AM
Public ownership is the same as gov ownership lmao
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:52 AM
Yeah
Wed be spending a shit ton on this.... (edited)
So 51% is public/gov and 49% is private ownership
And CEB gets control of the government shares per megas compromise
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 08:53 AM
Yeah sounds good
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 07-Dec-20 08:53 AM
25.5 billion, 24.5 will be from private investments
A year
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:53 AM
Oh jeez that’s a lot annually
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parm 07-Dec-20 08:53 AM
also id like an expanded timeframe for ths
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 08:53 AM
For energy independence that's not a bad price
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 07-Dec-20 08:54 AM
wait I thought the money was a figure
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parm 07-Dec-20 08:54 AM
so that we dont spend like half our budget on it
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:54 AM
If we can lower annual spending and extend the project
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parm 07-Dec-20 08:54 AM
what do you guys think?
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:54 AM
I think we do that
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parm 07-Dec-20 08:54 AM
yea
we should do that
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 07-Dec-20 08:54 AM
gh! we have a graph
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:54 AM
Also, make sure all the jobs to build it are unionized
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parm 07-Dec-20 08:54 AM
^
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 07-Dec-20 08:54 AM
Yeah sure
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 08:54 AM
It's play money we're spending though, no?
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 07-Dec-20 08:54 AM
That's a good compromise
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parm 07-Dec-20 08:55 AM
ye but we can invest that in a sovereign wealth fund
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 07-Dec-20 08:55 AM
We're not trying to make the bill more expensive...
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 07-Dec-20 08:55 AM
Also, the 2025 goal is too ambitious. We literally have to start almost from scratch
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 07-Dec-20 08:55 AM
muh nuclear weapons
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:55 AM
Yeah but I want it to be good for Patrian workers
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 07-Dec-20 08:55 AM
I mean we decide their pay
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 07-Dec-20 08:55 AM
No nukes, throw them into space research
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 07-Dec-20 08:55 AM
pretty much since we make all the decisions
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:55 AM
Minimum of 5 an hour
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 07-Dec-20 08:55 AM
I want a Patrian flag on the moon by 2040
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parm 07-Dec-20 08:57 AM
perhaps...
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 08:57 AM
Also would like to remind everyone that my bill of Respect Our Veterans Act, 2021 is up in 1 signature
If you are somebody who wants to support disenfranchised and downtrodden lower class people who have served in the military, you'd love this bill
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parm 07-Dec-20 08:58 AM
wait where is that bill?
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 08:58 AM
And to keep it light-hearted, it even has a Parade in Catalan!
troll 1
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:58 AM
👀
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 08:59 AM
Doctor Marina Bleu has a following bill expanding on the parades
entj 1
:)
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 08:59 AM
Oh no
The parade
Lmao
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 09:02 AM
It's a wonderful display of national unity, I would think!
troll
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 07-Dec-20 09:04 AM
Nothing happened in Catalan on May 12th 2020
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 09:05 AM
Exactly!
Avatar Big Brother (Clement2022) gh! we have a graph
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cbass 07-Dec-20 09:08 AM
why does it take longer with aid?
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 07-Dec-20 09:08 AM
it takes shorter
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cbass 07-Dec-20 09:09 AM
that's not what it shows
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 07-Dec-20 09:09 AM
Red is with aid
gh!
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cbass 07-Dec-20 09:09 AM
with aid is blue
you titled it wrong then
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 09:09 AM
He swapped them accidently probs
Confused me a bit too
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 07-Dec-20 09:09 AM
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cbass 07-Dec-20 09:09 AM
with and without aid (blue and red respectively)
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 07-Dec-20 09:09 AM
at the bottom it says it
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cbass 07-Dec-20 09:09 AM
yeah but at the top it says something else
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 07-Dec-20 09:09 AM
mfw
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cbass 07-Dec-20 09:10 AM
cringe ele cant make a graph
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 07-Dec-20 09:10 AM
I'll tell him to change the graph
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 07-Dec-20 09:15 AM
Oh I realized
I’m fixing it now
If I can
Nvm gonna have to wait till I get home
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 07-Dec-20 09:16 AM
@Sen. Alexander Lanark Can you give me email permission to edit?
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 07-Dec-20 09:16 AM
Uhhh sure idk ur email tho
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 07-Dec-20 09:17 AM
@Sen. Alexander Lanark Or are you able to dm me a link with permission to edit?
Or does that change everyone else's permissions?
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 07-Dec-20 09:17 AM
Changes everyone’s
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Sen. Empharius 07-Dec-20 01:15 PM
I do like nuclear power (edited)
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parm 07-Dec-20 01:17 PM
yea i do too (edited)
@Big Brother (Clement2022) wouldn't it fall under the PRA for the nuclear thing?
wait nvm
yea the PRA owns the public share
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 07-Dec-20 01:18 PM
?
what
what's the PRA
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 01:18 PM
Patrium River Authority'
very cringe
Avatar Big Brother (Clement2022) what's the PRA
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parm 07-Dec-20 01:18 PM
the Patrium River Authority (ie. the energy company)
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 07-Dec-20 01:18 PM
gh
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parm 07-Dec-20 01:18 PM
the PRA already owns a nuclear reactor
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 07-Dec-20 01:19 PM
why is the River Authority running the energy company
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parm 07-Dec-20 01:19 PM
and several dams
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parm 07-Dec-20 01:19 PM
because Evans wanted to make a TVA reference
TVA being the Tennessee Valley Authority
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 07-Dec-20 01:19 PM
I'd say keep them separate and have one run the dams and one run the nuclear because they're specialized
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 01:20 PM
Hmmmm all of the PMJ votes swap
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parm 07-Dec-20 01:20 PM
ehhhhhhh i'd keep them the same bc they might help each other out with power transfer and shit
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 01:20 PM
except for the party head
hmmm
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 01:20 PM
hmmmmmm
its fine the bill was a longshot anyways
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 07-Dec-20 01:20 PM
gh
Head Chairman (gov) Head Director of Development for Atomic Research (gov) Head Director of Construction (gov) HeadDirector of Resource Procurement (gov) Head Director of Human Resources (elected) Head Director of Infrastructure (gov) Head Director of Environment and Social Policies (gov) Head Director of Finance and Marketing (elected) x y z I need 3 more positions
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 01:27 PM
What is this for @Big Brother (Clement2022)
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 07-Dec-20 01:29 PM
@Deleted User for the Patrian Nuclear & Energy Corp.
hmm
lemme come up with a cooler acronym
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 01:32 PM
Patrian Energy and Nuclear Initiative Study
@Big Brother (Clement2022)
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 07-Dec-20 01:32 PM
lol
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 01:32 PM
oh god
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 01:32 PM
troll
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character-confusion 07-Dec-20 01:32 PM
I fucking knew someone would -
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 01:33 PM
We're literally all children
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 01:33 PM
Patrian Energy Technological and Engineering Responsibility
PETER
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 07-Dec-20 01:35 PM
Patrian Energy and Nuclear Science
hmm
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 01:35 PM
PENSS
Patrian Energy and Nuclear Science Society
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 07-Dec-20 01:38 PM
Patrium Energy and Nuclear Investment Subsidiary
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 01:39 PM
boohooo
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Dieselkeough 07-Dec-20 01:40 PM
can we amend the CEB to not include the PRA
because the PRA is based
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 01:41 PM
That's what the Nuke bill should do
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 07-Dec-20 01:41 PM
?
What's the PRA
LOL
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parm 07-Dec-20 01:41 PM
ehh let's just keep the PRA under the CEB
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Dieselkeough 07-Dec-20 01:41 PM
n o h
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parm 07-Dec-20 01:41 PM
mfw it was the energy company
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 07-Dec-20 01:41 PM
Yeah they're separate iirc
Avatar Dieselkeough n o h
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parm 07-Dec-20 01:41 PM
wh
the CEB just manages government assets
boohooo
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Dieselkeough 07-Dec-20 01:42 PM
PRA is apart of our gubbermint now
troll
PRA IS our government
they control all the strings
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 01:42 PM
PRA >>>> some cringe centralized thingy
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parm 07-Dec-20 01:43 PM
the PRA is some centralized thingy
not for long tho:
troll
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character-confusion 07-Dec-20 01:52 PM
@Dieselkeough are you not gonna address what I mentioned at all or
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Dieselkeough 07-Dec-20 01:53 PM
party heads
ggo der
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Senator Mucus 07-Dec-20 03:12 PM
I didn’t even notice the garden bill abolished the CEB until Mega dmed me.
I’m not even mad, that was clever. Still voting no though.
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parm 07-Dec-20 03:12 PM
pog
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 03:16 PM
Based
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Senator Mucus 07-Dec-20 03:17 PM
I’m even voting against my party here. I hope I’m not unpersoned or anything.
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 03:17 PM
Most of my party is voting against Chiang, not even to undermine him, just so I could use it as a tool for propaganda lmao
entj 1
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 03:20 PM
Bro
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 03:20 PM
What
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 03:20 PM
You're giving Mega control of Nuclear Material to own the NCP
..........
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 03:20 PM
It was good propaganda
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 03:20 PM
Dude's legit an anarchist
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 03:20 PM
Actually it wasn’t to own the NCP
I can swear on someones mother grave
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 03:20 PM
and you want to give him 5 nuclear reactor's worth of nuclear material
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 03:21 PM
As I said, I am an Opportunist, and you guys would have failed anyways seeing the vote count, so I took the better route (edited)
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 03:21 PM
Yeah nah
The lefties are dm'ing people to vote against
with no pretext
And the rightists don't do that (edited)
fun :)
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 03:23 PM
You guys were like 32-34 when I switched Oh dont get me wrong, they were indeed spamming everyone and as much as the NCP sucks hot ass, you guys only really dm to get sigs
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 03:23 PM
Yeah we dm people we know would already agree with it
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 03:23 PM
Yeah
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 03:23 PM
We don't dm people we know would otherwise not vote/vote against when their fucking party leader is against it
:))))))
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 03:23 PM
I don’t like dm campaigning
It’s cheap
I dm party heads
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Dieselkeough 07-Dec-20 03:24 PM
i think its just because Chiang hasnt been active
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 03:24 PM
Yeah
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Dieselkeough 07-Dec-20 03:24 PM
to change his vote yet
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 03:24 PM
The only dm campaigning I do is getting sigs but I like to work across the aisle
I’m waiting for chaing to come back
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 03:24 PM
Yeah Chiang would get his party in line
and the bill would win
:(
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 03:24 PM
Yeah but I don’t beg for votes
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 03:24 PM
awwwww, you dmed me for ur bill so u think of me as a party head, thanks
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Dieselkeough 07-Dec-20 03:24 PM
Chiann would understand the corruption this bill brings
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 03:25 PM
No, it’s just you are active
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 03:25 PM
Yeah you're the more active version of Chiang
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 03:25 PM
Yeah, currently the acting head of the PMJ
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Dieselkeough 07-Dec-20 03:25 PM
//plus some "influence" uwu//
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 03:25 PM
If billy was more inactive people would treat me the same way
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 03:25 PM
I’m like the omly active person in my party
Also if you think we’re done with the CEB after this
And my back hurts from all this carrying
We’re gonna make every little thing a living hell
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 03:26 PM
Nah, every party hates me on a personal level excluding fucking @Dieselkeough (love ya) Pretty sure lotsa ppl like ya
I wanna work with the PMJ
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Dieselkeough 07-Dec-20 03:27 PM
uwu
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 03:27 PM
I wanna work with the NCP too We just need to find common ground
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Dieselkeough 07-Dec-20 03:27 PM
we are glad to work with the PMJ
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 03:27 PM
I'm pretty sure I would unironically agree with you on a lot of policy but I really just dislike you since we bickered when billy was gone
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 03:28 PM
Wanna have a non aggression pact (edited)
?
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Dieselkeough 07-Dec-20 03:28 PM
us and PMJ are allies, id think
as of now that is
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 03:29 PM
Well as acting head of the PMJ, I can say we are allies, also because I feel like you are the only person in ur party
Like, does anyone else in PADRE even exist?
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 03:29 PM
Yeah, thats ur fault tbh, Im a great guy
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 03:29 PM
Hmmmmm, define NAP
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Dieselkeough 07-Dec-20 03:30 PM
well
yeah
we are the 7th most acctive party chat
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 03:30 PM
NAP but not gay and not lolbert
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Dieselkeough 07-Dec-20 03:30 PM
7th most active chat overall
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 03:30 PM
Wait I said lolbert twice
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Dieselkeough 07-Dec-20 03:30 PM
i meann
most active party chat in general
i do lil events for our party
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 03:30 PM
I made the NAP justify a totalitarian government
Its fun
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Dieselkeough 07-Dec-20 03:30 PM
like recentlky we voted on the party animal
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 03:31 PM
unfathomably based
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Dieselkeough 07-Dec-20 03:31 PM
the black ops booby, native to patrium, won
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 03:31 PM
Black Ops?
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Dieselkeough 07-Dec-20 03:31 PM
yes.
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 03:31 PM
That
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Dieselkeough 07-Dec-20 03:31 PM
the black faced booby
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 03:31 PM
That doesn’t answer the question
Ah
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Dieselkeough 07-Dec-20 03:31 PM
also known as the black ops booby
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 03:31 PM
Still confused
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Dieselkeough 07-Dec-20 03:32 PM
but yeat
h
we have the most active party chat
and 7th most active chat overall
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 03:32 PM
And yet u are the only person active on the non-party chat server
oof
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Dieselkeough 07-Dec-20 03:33 PM
more or less.
im trying to get my folks to move out of dms
but (edited)
boohooo
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 03:33 PM
Lmao
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Senator Mucus 07-Dec-20 03:40 PM
I changed my vote to for the garden bill, I’d rather not have the CEB as Mega’s puppet.
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 03:43 PM
Based
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parm 07-Dec-20 03:44 PM
unbased
funwaa 1
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 03:45 PM
Bruh this bill was a Hail Mary and a half
I never expected it to be passed
Then I saw you sign and I got so happy
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parm 07-Dec-20 03:45 PM
holy shit this bill has 80 votes almost
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 03:45 PM
We were all in vc
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parm 07-Dec-20 03:45 PM
this server is getting active
never skipping VC night again
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 03:45 PM
Yeah because your side is dming all the inactives
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parm 07-Dec-20 03:45 PM
troll
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 03:45 PM
And we have to respond
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parm 07-Dec-20 03:45 PM
yours is too
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 03:46 PM
Because you started
We hadn’t before
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 03:46 PM
I mean yeah
We dmed our parties first
But then you guys noticed
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parm 07-Dec-20 03:46 PM
i just used a Jim Halpert clip 🤮
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 03:46 PM
After 14 hours
Jim is based
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parm 07-Dec-20 03:47 PM
true he is based
but like office clips
🤮
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 03:47 PM
The funniest office clip is Michael falling into the koi pond
Hot Take: The Office sucks and itsnt very funny
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Dieselkeough 07-Dec-20 03:48 PM
you are now banned from my minecraft server
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Sen. James Durham 07-Dec-20 03:50 PM
Is this a hot take?
The only people who like it are 15 y/o girls who squeal over Jim.
Or maybe I've been overexposed to my sister's friends
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Dieselkeough 07-Dec-20 03:54 PM
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 04:00 PM
Bleu a 15/yo girl confirmed
And as we all know
Girl stands for... Guy In Real Life
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Dieselkeough 07-Dec-20 04:03 PM
troll
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 04:06 PM
I’m fine with the office
It’s mundane entertainment
And better than friends
true 2
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parm 07-Dec-20 04:07 PM
i knew a girl who loved friends
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Deleted User 07-Dec-20 04:14 PM
How dare
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Senator Mucus 08-Dec-20 06:38 AM
The Padre bill is almost based, but it shouldn’t be one from each party. The size of each party is also a factor.
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Deleted User 08-Dec-20 07:01 AM
(yah, I recommend each party should have 1 vote/delegate + 1 vote/delegate per 5 members) (So PMJ which has 6 members would have 2 votes/delegates, while the NCP which has 25 ((cap)) would have the maximum of 6 votes, which seems fair to me)
(I see u Mega)
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parm 08-Dec-20 07:06 AM
(fuck i forgot what i was gonna say 😔)
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Deleted User 08-Dec-20 07:07 AM
(dum dum being dum)
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Deleted User 08-Dec-20 12:30 PM
Anyone who votes against hates Santa Claus and wants children to cry
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parm 10-Dec-20 07:41 AM
@Your Friend Tamara dont talk in #policy-proposals
SMH!
gh!
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Dec-20 07:42 AM
Tell that to @Deleted User
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parm 10-Dec-20 07:42 AM
gh
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Dec-20 09:02 AM
@Sen. Alexander Lanark @Big Brother (Clement2022) I support the nuclear bill but any particular reason why PIP isn’t given any seat in the management board?
I mean, you gave PMJ and PADRE seats
And you gave yourself two seats
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 09:04 AM
The PIP would try and burn down the planet
Therefore only auths are allowed
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:07 AM
I originally gave PIP a seat but wanted to maintain an ideological balance still
like uhh
Far-Left has 3, center has 3, and far-right (including PMJ) has 3
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Dec-20 09:09 AM
Well you have 5 auth party seats, 2 middle, and 2 libertarian party seats
I don’t see the harm in adding a center libertarian party
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:10 AM
perhaps yeah
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 10-Dec-20 09:13 AM
Ideological balance by fucking up where it matters most: the research and development
I won't be surprised if this led to a Chernobyl
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Senator Michelle Evans 10-Dec-20 09:14 AM
True, could we just get the board of directors to modify shit?
After the bill is passed? @Big Brother (Clement2022)
Like we all have a seat right?
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:14 AM
?
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Senator Michelle Evans 10-Dec-20 09:14 AM
(Or ever party that has a director had a seat)
Couldn’t the board of directors make replacements?
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parm 10-Dec-20 09:14 AM
Or maybe just fuck off with politics
just have regular experts smh
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 10-Dec-20 09:15 AM
(good, I can yeet my character into research)
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Senator Michelle Evans 10-Dec-20 09:15 AM
@Big Brother (Clement2022) we can do that right?
We each have shit on the board
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parm 10-Dec-20 09:15 AM
agony
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:15 AM
wdym by that
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Senator Michelle Evans 10-Dec-20 09:15 AM
Like
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:16 AM
Like the party on the seat can elect whoever they want to represent them, even an npc
it doesnt have to be a senator
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Senator Michelle Evans 10-Dec-20 09:16 AM
Each of the board members is elected by a party
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Dec-20 09:16 AM
Yeah considering PIP is the party of P R O G R E S S
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Senator Michelle Evans 10-Dec-20 09:16 AM
And we each get a seat
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parm 10-Dec-20 09:16 AM
TPO: "let's take the CEB out of the Senate's hands" Me: "good idea" TPO: puts nuclear plants in a political committee
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Senator Michelle Evans 10-Dec-20 09:16 AM
(For me it’s transport)
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:16 AM
i mean
if u want
u could
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Senator Michelle Evans 10-Dec-20 09:16 AM
Nice
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:16 AM
give someone else a seat
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parm 10-Dec-20 09:16 AM
(for me it's resource management)
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:16 AM
but then it's up to them
to negotiate
i guess
?
or idk what u mean exactly
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Senator Michelle Evans 10-Dec-20 09:17 AM
Time to vote to replace the director of research as the first order of business :wholesome:
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 10-Dec-20 09:17 AM
The NCP will never give up their seat, no matter how incompetent they might be
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parm 10-Dec-20 09:17 AM
mfw senators trying to operate a nuclear plant untroll
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Senator Michelle Evans 10-Dec-20 09:17 AM
@Dr. Kris Lawrence we can just vote them off
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:17 AM
gh!
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parm 10-Dec-20 09:17 AM
wholsum
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:17 AM
it doesnt have to be senators
i mean
this is kind of technocratic
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Senator Michelle Evans 10-Dec-20 09:17 AM
Eh
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parm 10-Dec-20 09:17 AM
the Senate is kakistocracy in action
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:18 AM
i view it like this
each party is a
uhh what do u call it
like
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 10-Dec-20 09:18 AM
Finding a scientist supporting the NCP is like finding a proton inside the sun
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:18 AM
a syndicalist!
so like the
FSL would know which person can represent the environment the best
Avatar Big Brother (Clement2022) it doesnt have to be senators
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parm 10-Dec-20 09:18 AM
gh
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:18 AM
so they appoint an environmental representative
gh
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 10-Dec-20 09:19 AM
Well, you fucked up
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:19 AM
sigh
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parm 10-Dec-20 09:19 AM
gh
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:20 AM
how about this, I'll also change the administration with my nuclear weapons bill
like add a clause
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parm 10-Dec-20 09:20 AM
...managed by a committee of Senators...assign a Senator...
ok
wait
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 10-Dec-20 09:20 AM
The most hostile to science major party actually is in charge of nuclear development
agony 3
You actually fucked up hard
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parm 10-Dec-20 09:20 AM
why dont we just change it in the consensus econ bill?
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:20 AM
this bill doesnt even give u access to weapons mfw
whats the concensus econ billl
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parm 10-Dec-20 09:21 AM
(1) The CEB is no longer political, it will be completely independent from the Senate except for vetos in bills (2) Discourage outsourcing (3) Labor rights and unions (4) Encourage the formation of co-ops (5) Deregulation in certain industries (6) Farmer subsidies
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:21 AM
:perhaps:
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parm 10-Dec-20 09:21 AM
that's the basic gist
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:21 AM
but
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parm 10-Dec-20 09:21 AM
im trying to get every party's input on this
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Dec-20 09:21 AM
How about we hide a clause removing the NCP from the PNE board in some other bill
untroll 1
entj 1
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parm 10-Dec-20 09:22 AM
serves them right
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Dec-20 09:22 AM
Exactly
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parm 10-Dec-20 09:22 AM
but seriously keeping this in the hands of the senate is a bad idea
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Dec-20 09:22 AM
Yeah
I mean
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Senator Michelle Evans 10-Dec-20 09:22 AM
@Big Brother (Clement2022) if we’re changing the bill already could this just be made into an agency under the PRA since they already have a nuclear plant?
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Dec-20 09:22 AM
It does keep it nonpartisan
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parm 10-Dec-20 09:22 AM
^
just make this a subsidiary of the PRA
51% PRA
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Dec-20 09:23 AM
Considering that if it weren’t based on party, all board members would be PIP
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parm 10-Dec-20 09:23 AM
and the rest private
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parm 10-Dec-20 09:23 AM
i mean....the board should be non-partisan
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:23 AM
i mean
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Senator Michelle Evans 10-Dec-20 09:23 AM
@Big Brother (Clement2022) like
It’ll still have autonomy
And control its own operations
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parm 10-Dec-20 09:23 AM
why does everyone want to politicize shit boohooo
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Senator Michelle Evans 10-Dec-20 09:23 AM
And stuff
This just makes it simpler idk
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parm 10-Dec-20 09:23 AM
^
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Dec-20 09:24 AM
Yeah, if seats on the board weren’t assigned based on party, and instead by meritocracy, all seats would be PIP
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parm 10-Dec-20 09:24 AM
yea it'd be better to reorganize as a subsidiary of the PRA
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parm 10-Dec-20 09:24 AM
EHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
the PIP doesn't have that big of a monopoly on scientists
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Dec-20 09:24 AM
PIP is the party of academics
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 09:24 AM
fucking hell
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:24 AM
nah, TPO has the most academics
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 09:24 AM
someone just make a bill to make it non partisan
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parm 10-Dec-20 09:24 AM
anarcho-leftcoms troll
Avatar Big Brother (Clement2022) nah, TPO has the most academics
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Dec-20 09:24 AM
*self-proclaimed academics
Avatar Big Brother (Clement2022) nah, TPO has the most academics
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 09:24 AM
doubt
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parm 10-Dec-20 09:25 AM
FSL is the party of unions, college students, and new porto
yea we have a diverse base 😎
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:25 AM
no, seriously we have the most academics
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parm 10-Dec-20 09:25 AM
but it's concentrated in the New Porto regions and cities
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 09:25 AM
I dont belive you
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parm 10-Dec-20 09:26 AM
boohooo im trying to make NLF balls
Avatar Sen. Empharius I dont belive you
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:26 AM
Our base is in St Solomon
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Dec-20 09:26 AM
PIP is the party of progress and Liberty
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:26 AM
conveniently where all the universities are
and uhh....
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Senator Michelle Evans 10-Dec-20 09:26 AM
Ours is just the urban working class
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:27 AM
more educated
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Dec-20 09:27 AM
Not all, and you only have St. Solomon because plot armor
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:27 AM
tends to vote more authoritarian
plot armor?
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Dec-20 09:27 AM
Yes
Avatar Big Brother (Clement2022) Our base is in St Solomon
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 09:27 AM
split with the NLF
and they have far more of it
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:27 AM
what no
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Dec-20 09:27 AM
In reality it’d probably be NLF or maybe even MLF or PPE dominated
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:27 AM
we have more party seats = more population
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 09:29 AM
they have far more popularity
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:29 AM
no untroll
where'd u see that
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 09:29 AM
in the party popularity thing?
Where you havent broken 5 since Dino was found to have done war crimes?
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:30 AM
.2 more lol
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Senator Michelle Evans 10-Dec-20 09:30 AM
@Big Brother (Clement2022) you have the city center
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 09:30 AM
look, there is no way in hell that academics are in the TPO
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Senator Michelle Evans 10-Dec-20 09:30 AM
But the more outlying areas of St. Solomon are mine
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 09:30 AM
To my guess, thier mainly in PIP
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:30 AM
why would academics not like the inner party
academics tent to think
tend
that the populace
is not educated
and cant
make decisions for themselves
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 09:31 AM
no they dont
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:31 AM
hence more authoritarian
i mean
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 09:31 AM
they dont though
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:31 AM
irl they tend
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Dec-20 09:31 AM
TPO is the party of Kakistocracy and Combatocracy
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 09:31 AM
you just made that up
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:31 AM
to vote democrat
which is
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 09:31 AM
litterally no, never, at no point
Have you ever met academics?
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:31 AM
a party of big government
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Dec-20 09:31 AM
IRL St. Solomon as a large city would vote NLF majority
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 09:31 AM
LMAO
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Dec-20 09:32 AM
Maybe MLF and PPE
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 09:32 AM
they like the dems because thier socially liberal
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 09:32 AM
Nah
TPO/NLF
That's the city
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 09:32 AM
Academics would never vote TPO
thier too damn idealist
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 09:32 AM
Yes they would
That's their ideal
troll
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 09:32 AM
have you ever met academics
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 09:33 AM
Yes I have
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 09:33 AM
besides @Big Brother (Clement2022) the "who has stuff where" map isnt canon
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 09:33 AM
They are all Big Brother
:D
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 09:33 AM
no they fucking aint
I know academia
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 09:34 AM
I know just as well as you
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:34 AM
The Fascist government endorsed a stringent education policy in Italy aiming at eliminating illiteracy, which was a serious problem in Italy at the time, as well as improving the allegiance of Italians to the state.[50] To reduce drop-outs, the government changed the minimum age of leaving school from twelve to fourteen and strictly enforced attendance.[51] The Fascist government's first minister of education from 1922 to 1924 Giovanni Gentile recommended that education policy should focus on indoctrination of students into Fascism and to educate youth to respect and be obedient to authority.[51] In 1929, education policy took a major step towards being completely taken over by the agenda of indoctrination.[51] In that year, the Fascist government took control of the authorization of all textbooks, all secondary school teachers were required to take an oath of loyalty to Fascism and children began to be taught that they owed the same loyalty to Fascism as they did to God.[51] In 1933, all university teachers were required to be members of the National Fascist Party.[51] From the 1930s to 1940s, Italy's education focused on the history of Italy displaying Italy as a force of civilization during the Roman era, displaying the rebirth of Italian nationalism and the struggle for Italian independence and unity during the Risorgimento.[51] In the late 1930s, the Fascist government copied Nazi Germany's education system on the issue of physical fitness and began an agenda that demanded that Italians become physically healthy.[51]
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Intellectual talent in Italy was rewarded and promoted by the Fascist government through the Royal Academy of Italy which was created in 1926 to promote and coordinate Italy's intellectual activity.[52]
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 09:34 AM
WEW
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 09:34 AM
and academia would vote PIP or PPE
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 09:34 AM
rex would cream his pants
econ profs would vote LP
:^)
wonder why
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Senator Michelle Evans 10-Dec-20 09:34 AM
I miss when there was a left center technocratic party boohooo
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 09:34 AM
yeah, but fuck em
academics arent voting TPO
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cbass 10-Dec-20 09:34 AM
#approval-ratings
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Dec-20 09:34 AM
Academia has historically been liberal, economically or socially
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cbass 10-Dec-20 09:34 AM
^
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 09:34 AM
the suggesting that they would is completely fucking insane
Avatar Sen. Empharius yeah, but fuck em
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 09:35 AM
>fuck the educated people on econ, they're all dummies anyways, communism will work!
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cbass 10-Dec-20 09:35 AM
pretty consistently, actually
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:35 AM
approval ratings is useless tho
peabrain 2
NCP has the most voters
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 09:35 AM
lmao I'll listen to capitalist economicsts when they're able to predict a single thing right
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:35 AM
even tho thhey have low approval
also
we are technocracy
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cbass 10-Dec-20 09:35 AM
they're educated in capitalist economics, so of course they're going to assume communism wouldn't work, because its almost guaranteed to have weaker growth
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:35 AM
which tend
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cbass 10-Dec-20 09:35 AM
for now
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 09:35 AM
Therefore commie bad. Thank you!
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 09:35 AM
as opposed to Marxist economics, who have correctly predicted every global economic trend since Marx himself was alive
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 09:36 AM
:D
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:36 AM
to have a base
of educated
folk
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Dec-20 09:36 AM
Not really, no
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cbass 10-Dec-20 09:36 AM
no, commie good because commie cares about human rights more than the next dollar
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Dec-20 09:36 AM
Like
At all
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 09:36 AM
you dont seem to be
but I'll comcede that you might grab some of the more reactionary STEMlords
Avatar Senator Morshu Ferrok Not really, no
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:37 AM
That's our platform untroll
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 09:37 AM
communism has faster growth though
Avatar Big Brother (Clement2022) That's our platform untroll
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Dec-20 09:37 AM
Who’s platform
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 09:37 AM
not a single party follows thier platform, your no excepiton
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cbass 10-Dec-20 09:37 AM
ehhhh
Avatar Senator Morshu Ferrok Who’s platform
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:37 AM
TPO platform
Avatar Big Brother (Clement2022) TPO platform
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Dec-20 09:37 AM
I thought you were IngSoc?
Avatar cbass ehhhh
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 09:38 AM
five year plan gang
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 09:38 AM
I mean
we talk influences from many ideologies
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cbass 10-Dec-20 09:38 AM
oh right just remembered i gotta do something
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parm 10-Dec-20 09:39 AM
these be the niggas who want burgundy
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Senator Michelle Evans 10-Dec-20 09:39 AM
Y a y
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 10:03 AM
what program is that
i need to make better partyballs
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parm 10-Dec-20 10:03 AM
krita
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 10:03 AM
is it free and easy to use?
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parm 10-Dec-20 10:03 AM
it's paint.net but works on mac troll l
yes
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 10:03 AM
oh ok
how do you get the edges so smooth
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parm 10-Dec-20 10:04 AM
stabilizer
annoying but noice
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 10:04 AM
lemme see if paint.net has that
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 10-Dec-20 10:04 AM
ANTI-ALIASING REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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parm 10-Dec-20 10:04 AM
prolly does
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 10-Dec-20 10:04 AM
Why is everyone voting no for the reactor bill
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 10-Dec-20 10:05 AM
Nuclear annihilation under the NCP
Reedit it and then revote
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 10:05 AM
bro im going to nominate a qualified person
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 10-Dec-20 10:05 AM
How is NCP going to that
Avatar Dr. Kris Lawrence Reedit it and then revote
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Dec-20 10:05 AM
Reddit moment
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 10:05 AM
literally make an NPC and recommend them to me
smh
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parm 10-Dec-20 10:06 AM
yall fucked up on the board of directors
like fucked up hard
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 10:06 AM
i dont wanna be a director
i didnt ask for it
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 10-Dec-20 10:06 AM
How
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Senator Michelle Evans 10-Dec-20 10:06 AM
@Sen. Alexander Lanark basically
Avatar Sen. Alexander Lanark How is NCP going to that
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 10-Dec-20 10:06 AM
Being in charge of FUCKING NUCLEAR DEVELOPMENT
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 10:06 AM
made it party appointed
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Senator Michelle Evans 10-Dec-20 10:06 AM
People don’t like that senators are in charge of nuclear science
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 10:06 AM
🙈
i said i would drop the job
why are you ignoring that
jesus
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 10-Dec-20 10:07 AM
You have to assign to a senator as per the bill
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 10-Dec-20 10:07 AM
Read the clauses
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 10:07 AM
whats the clause?
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 10:07 AM
TFW you put up a farmer subsidy bill before mega can
chad
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 10-Dec-20 10:07 AM
If they don’t make the quota for work they can be fired
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 10:07 AM
are we all monkey brained
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 10-Dec-20 10:08 AM
Literally if they don’t do what they are supposed to they get fired
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 10-Dec-20 10:08 AM
@Sen. Alexander Lanark Not sure if this is a good idea when there is a literal nuclear scientist in the senate
funwaa 1
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 10:08 AM
thats not good enough
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 10-Dec-20 10:08 AM
Who’s the nuclear scientist?
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 10:08 AM
i never even asked for the job
idk why i have it
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 10-Dec-20 10:08 AM
It was assigned at random minus director head
entj 1
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 10:08 AM
as the billionaire in the room make me director of finance
Avatar Sen. Alexander Lanark Who’s the nuclear scientist?
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 10-Dec-20 10:08 AM
...well, my character does, PhD, worked at CERN, you know the stuff
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 10-Dec-20 10:09 AM
I’ll edit it
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 10:09 AM
you cant
its being voted on
just take it down
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 10-Dec-20 10:09 AM
I know
Avatar Sen. Alexander Lanark I’ll edit it
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 10:09 AM
u cant
its being voted on
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 10:09 AM
and revote
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 10:09 AM
like I said
I will literally just
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 10-Dec-20 10:09 AM
I’m gonna take it down
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 10:09 AM
just take it down
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 10:09 AM
change it
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 10:09 AM
yeah
Avatar Sen. Alexander Lanark I’m gonna take it down
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 10:09 AM
dont
too late for that
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 10:09 AM
take it down
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 10-Dec-20 10:09 AM
Why?
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 10:09 AM
we can just
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parm 10-Dec-20 10:09 AM
just ttake it down
and
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 10:09 AM
change it
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 10:09 AM
take it down
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 10:09 AM
with the weapons bill
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 10:09 AM
take it down
its simpler
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 10:09 AM
but
its fucking
12 hours
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 10:09 AM
take
it
down
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 10:09 AM
wasted mfw
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 10:09 AM
its only 12 hours
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cbass 10-Dec-20 10:10 AM
@Sen. James Durham i instantly orgasmed at section 2
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parm 10-Dec-20 10:10 AM
the AWA would be a useful thing to address in the farmer bil @Sen. James Durham
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cbass 10-Dec-20 10:10 AM
pov: jumble gets even more based
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parm 10-Dec-20 10:11 AM
also define when the crisis ends or who decides it ending
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 10-Dec-20 10:11 AM
Gimme like 30 minutes I will ask a mod to take it down, the bill won’t pass as it stands, in the meantime all party leaders or #2s idk dm me what you want for your positions, TPO already has claimed Human Resources and head director
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parm 10-Dec-20 10:11 AM
no, i dont want this board to be political
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 10:11 AM
here me out, dont give shit to parties
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parm 10-Dec-20 10:11 AM
that's the thing
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 10:11 AM
give it to experts
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 10:13 AM
give it to an expert
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 10-Dec-20 10:13 AM
If you don’t want it politicized fine by me
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 10:13 AM
please
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 10-Dec-20 10:13 AM
Ok
I will
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 10:13 AM
this shouldnt be a political thing
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 10:24 AM
yeah it's a draft but I wanted out there before yours so i dont get accused of plagerism
again
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 10:26 AM
The full compass unity on the nuclear bill is hilarious
troll 1
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BrosPros 10-Dec-20 10:26 AM
MCNUKES
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character-confusion 10-Dec-20 10:37 AM
hey @Deleted User
i think you got this definition backward
Charter School: A school or educative institution funded through functioning within the private sector, operated through the government
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parm 10-Dec-20 10:38 AM
yea
dont put it up yet, delete there are some flaws thar could be ironed out
do we have a school board system?
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 10:38 AM
Ahh ty
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character-confusion 10-Dec-20 10:39 AM
It is necessary to still allow for student liberty and choice, even when it may be perceived as unfair.
Lolberts got to you huh?
“Harmful Students” includes Class 2 people who attend the school
@Deleted User what does this mean?
Charter School: A school or educative institution funded and formed by communities and community members, operating in the public sector.
@Deleted User this is still wrong
charter schools are publically funded, privately operated
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 10:42 AM
Are they publicly funded?
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character-confusion 10-Dec-20 10:42 AM
yes
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 10:42 AM
I thought it was like a weird hybrid
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character-confusion 10-Dec-20 10:43 AM
A charter school is a school that receives government funding but operates independently of the established state school system in which it is located.
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 10:43 AM
Thank
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cbass 10-Dec-20 10:43 AM
charter school? more like literal garbage holy fuck
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character-confusion 10-Dec-20 10:43 AM
“Harmful Students” includes Class 2 people who attend the school
pls answer
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 10:46 AM
there are good ones and bad ones
I went to one that was really good
but in other areas you have really bad ones
@Deleted User what does Class 2 people mean?
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Sebastian Matthews 10-Dec-20 10:47 AM
Tuzis
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 10:50 AM
Oop I forgot to add shit
It’s attackers/threats I’ll put it in that section
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parm 10-Dec-20 10:51 AM
as an institution they're horrible
literally giiving public dollars to private companies
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 10:54 AM
yeah
but thiers also different kinds
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 10:54 AM
that's called commisioning private companies to do your work (edited)
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 10:54 AM
and some use different types of money
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 10:54 AM
which is great
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 10:55 AM
it's complicated
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parm 10-Dec-20 10:55 AM
funwaa
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parm 10-Dec-20 10:55 AM
yea
it's p complicated but overall it takes funds away from public schools
Avatar Hippe Hoppe which is great
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 10:55 AM
jsut do it yourself, dont pay a company to do it, nationalize the company and then do it
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 10:55 AM
speaking of nationalization
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 10:55 AM
the mian issue isnt them existing, it's how little money the US puts into it's school system
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parm 10-Dec-20 10:55 AM
and a lot of charters have a corruption problem
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 10:55 AM
cmon i just need one of you to sign
The Patrium Property Rights Act Overview: This bill has been created to protect the property rights of private citizens, and prevent a tyrannical government from seizing the property of the people. Terms and Stipulations This clarifies certain uses of words and should be taken into account ...
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 10:56 AM
public school in America fucking sucks
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parm 10-Dec-20 10:56 AM
yea and some politicians want to divert the little we have to charters
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 10:56 AM
why would I sign that?
it's awful
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parm 10-Dec-20 10:56 AM
^
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 10:56 AM
bastards
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parm 10-Dec-20 10:56 AM
anyways ima return to my theory lis
also, delete about the education bill
uhhh
the PES is kinda semi-flawed
bc the surveys can be manipulated
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 10:57 AM
Only way imma get em to vote, I didn’t wanna see the precedent that Patrium now completely controls schools functions
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 10:58 AM
not really
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character-confusion 10-Dec-20 10:58 AM
what is a classs 2 citizen
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 10:58 AM
the shitty schools, believe or not, are shitty
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 10:58 AM
yeah it does lmao
but so does private school in America
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 10:58 AM
the good schools are high key the best schools in america
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 10:59 AM
America just sucks at schooling
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 10:59 AM
no
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 10:59 AM
Class 2 people are people who pose an indirect threat to Patrium, through illegal actions or suspicious/conspicuous ctivities
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 10:59 AM
it sucks at schooling retards
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 10:59 AM
fucking 30 kids to a class
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 10:59 AM
which every country is
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 10:59 AM
that's too many kids in a class
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parm 10-Dec-20 10:59 AM
untroll
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 10:59 AM
explain how
why is that too many kids in a class
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 10:59 AM
it should be a max of 10, maybe 12 if your pushing it
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:00 AM
because they cant participate in teh class and intruction cant be individualized to fit thier educational needs (edited)
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:00 AM
imo school itself is a outdated concept but ye schools could be way better
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:00 AM
^^^^^
the less kids per teacher the better
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 11:00 AM
idk about where the fuck you go to, but every student in my school is kinda required to participate
it's like 10% of our grade
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:01 AM
participating for a grade isnt the same as active learning
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 11:01 AM
as for individualization, the solution to that is self-study
and electives
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:01 AM
the current school system was literally designed to create factory workers
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:01 AM
"participate" they dont have dialouge about teh material, they dont discuss with the teacher, they barely get to say any more then a few words
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:01 AM
which are underfunded as hell
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:01 AM
electives arent individualized learning
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:01 AM
^
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 11:02 AM
to this
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 11:02 AM
and this
idk what kind of bumfuck school you go to where either of these statements are true
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:02 AM
mfw
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 11:02 AM
but they're just untrue for anything but the worst schools
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:02 AM
that's what it's like in public school
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:02 AM
^
yea
in a regular public school
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:02 AM
I went to a well funded public school and that's wht it was like
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:02 AM
yea same
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 11:03 AM
i'm in a public school
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:03 AM
i live in a p nice suburb
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 11:03 AM
i can assure you that it's just not correct
ofc it's arguably the best school in chicago
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:03 AM
isnt it one of those chicago magnets?
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 11:03 AM
but eh
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:03 AM
Math class is 30~40 kids in one class, all just memorizing and doing busywork
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:03 AM
same
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:03 AM
i mean....you can't extrapolate from one of the best schools in chicago to the experiences of most students
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 11:04 AM
as i said,
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:04 AM
damn, slurs realy make your argument seem more valid
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 11:04 AM
would you prefer mentally challenged
Avatar Hippe Hoppe as i said,
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:04 AM
the point of schools is to help as many as they can
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:04 AM
I would prefer you dont use slurs?
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:05 AM
in addition
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:05 AM
American public schools are a race to the middle
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:05 AM
are you assuming most kis are retarded?
^
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:05 AM
the lowest performing kids get shafted, so do the highest performing
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:05 AM
ye basically
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:05 AM
so that the class can get a high average grade, so they can get funding
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 11:05 AM
the highest performance kids binge watch organic chemistry tutor
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:06 AM
your school provides tutors?
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:06 AM
no it's a yt channel
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:06 AM
oh
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 11:06 AM
never heard of the organic chemistry tutor
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:06 AM
i think it's a yt channel
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 11:06 AM
it is
This channel focuses on providing tutorial videos on organic chemistry, general chemistry, physics, algebra, trigonometry, precalculus, and calculus.
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:06 AM
ya
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:07 AM
I'm going to think of a list of people the American school system shafts
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:07 AM
i remember watching to study for my algebra 2 final
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:07 AM
everyone troll
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 11:07 AM
if you're annoyed that the american school system is bad
just self study
all of the resources anybody could need exist on the internet
organic chemistry tutor, crash course, khan academy
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:07 AM
that's what i do but you're looking at this from a point of self-interest
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 11:08 AM
welcome to the libertarian party
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:08 AM
this is practically a bootstraps argument
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:08 AM
agony
libcaps be like:
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:10 AM
Neorodivergent kids Smart kids Unintelligent kids Poor kids Kids with bad mental health Kids in poor nieborhoods (this one goes double because schools are funded with property taxes) kids whith stress issues Kids who are good at one thing but bad at another kids who are especially introverted kids who are especually extroverted kids who are poor and more
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:10 AM
what if they cant afford the internet?
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 11:10 AM
go to the library
free computers
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:10 AM
if your poor, you dont have that free time
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:10 AM
what if that library is far away?
what if you live in a place without easily accessible amenities and your parents dont have a car (edited)
this is a reality for millions of people
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 11:11 AM
then how tf are you getting to school
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:11 AM
walking?
the bus?
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 11:12 AM
libraries are significantly more common than schools
and almost everywhere has busses to the nearest large one
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:12 AM
most neiborhoods dont have libraries
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:12 AM
^
yea
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:12 AM
poor areas get fucked so hard
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:12 AM
school buses exist
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:13 AM
because the kids cant afford extra help, the schools dont get funding because thiers no property tax money, and there arent amenities to help them out
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:17 AM
fucking saved my grade in math last year lmao
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:17 AM
lmao the seethe from commies
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:17 AM
just be smart
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:17 AM
public schools are fine if you live in a well-off place
property taxes ftw
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:17 AM
if you're in a well-off place
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:17 AM
and get into a good school like @Hippe Hoppe and i did chad and mega too
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:18 AM
yea tru i am applying to a great school
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:18 AM
Should it be different?
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:18 AM
youre gonna get in
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:18 AM
No, I did, but I had to leave the public schools to do it is my point
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:18 AM
There's always going to be a class system
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:18 AM
my public school is like one of the best in south florida
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:18 AM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:18 AM
agony
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:18 AM
im at a public school funwaa
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:18 AM
>florida ah there's your problem
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:19 AM
ehh south florida is just disgruntled New Yorkers
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:19 AM
true
tampa is just the chicago mafia southern location
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:20 AM
yea
north florida is fucked up part
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:20 AM
north florida >>>>>> south florida
funwaa 2
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:20 AM
i'd tell you a famous person that went to my school but that'd be a serious doxx
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:20 AM
I like the bama part more than N*w york but with cubans (edited)
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:20 AM
funwaa funwaa funwaa funwaa funwaa funwaa funwaa funwaa funwaa funwaa funwaa funwaa funwaa funwaa funwaa funwaa funwaa funwaa funwaa funwaa funwaa funwaa funwaa funwaa funwaa
south FL is just warm new york with cubans
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:21 AM
cubans are based
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:21 AM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:21 AM
Cuba is based
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:21 AM
a lot of younger cubans here are lefties
entj
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:21 AM
based
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:21 AM
not cuban immigrants to americ
fuckin
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:21 AM
cuban immigrants are epic
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:21 AM
"Castro took my slaves" type of niggas
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:22 AM
tfw you went omegle and saw more white supremacist argies than americans
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:22 AM
or they just wanted a better life lmao
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:22 AM
mfw
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:22 AM
because of an american blocade troll
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:22 AM
if communism is so good why couldnt they stop the CIA entj
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:22 AM
Bro an argie fascist gave me his telegram
lmao
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:23 AM
jumble has some sus contacts
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:23 AM
yes.
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:23 AM
if democracy is so good then why did Napeleon lose to Russia?
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:23 AM
this tbh
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:23 AM
wtf tsarism is based?
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:23 AM
democracy isnt good chad
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:23 AM
Because a monarchy will prevail over the mob rule that was France
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 11:24 AM
napoleon was an emperor
dipshit
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:24 AM
God Save the Tsar!
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cbass 10-Dec-20 11:25 AM
you absolute baboon, napoleon didn't seize power democratically
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:26 AM
he might as well. Everybody loved him
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:26 AM
moment
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:26 AM
"First Consul of the Republic"
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cbass 10-Dec-20 11:26 AM
which is why he should've been allowed to conquer europe 😔
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:26 AM
he declared it democratic after
simple
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:26 AM
@Kermit the C_L_A_M server frenchaboo
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Kermit the C_L_A_M 10-Dec-20 11:26 AM
i have been summoned
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cbass 10-Dec-20 11:26 AM
napoleon was corsican
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:26 AM
they were talking about napoleon
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Kermit the C_L_A_M 10-Dec-20 11:26 AM
fuck napoleon
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:27 AM
lmao gay island cringe!
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Kermit the C_L_A_M 10-Dec-20 11:27 AM
napoleon was the fucking stalin of the french revolution
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:27 AM
wtf kermit's a trot?
he's used the term 'bureaucratic collectivism' before
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cbass 10-Dec-20 11:28 AM
gracchus the trot
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Kermit the C_L_A_M 10-Dec-20 11:28 AM
he actively went agaisnt the original social stances of the jacobins, and he seized power simply because he wanted it not becuase he believed in the ideals
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Kermit the C_L_A_M 10-Dec-20 11:28 AM
i used to be
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right after my tankie phase
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:28 AM
it shows
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Kermit the C_L_A_M 10-Dec-20 11:28 AM
i mean i really hate trotsky and trots but they have some good terminology
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cbass 10-Dec-20 11:28 AM
i did too and then i found out what it actually was (sort of) and went "oof icky" and ive been moving more libertarian since
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Kermit the C_L_A_M 10-Dec-20 11:28 AM
modern trots are just pathetic
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:29 AM
I actually see the Russian revolution as the modern day version of teh Frence revolution
there's some good parrales there
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Kermit the C_L_A_M 10-Dec-20 11:29 AM
lenin did as well
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:29 AM
yeah
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cbass 10-Dec-20 11:29 AM
my 10th and 11th grade history teacher was a purple libright
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Kermit the C_L_A_M 10-Dec-20 11:29 AM
lenin had a monument to robes built but then it was taken down
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cbass 10-Dec-20 11:29 AM
allegedly*
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:29 AM
i used to be a sucdem then i slowly shifted into libsoc then minarchist then anarchist territory
i almost became a panarchist
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:29 AM
like the French one, the mdoern one did not last long enough
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:29 AM
then i read malatesta (edited)
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 11:29 AM
you absolute baboon
it lasted far too long
fuck the ussr
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:29 AM
and became an ancom
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cbass 10-Dec-20 11:29 AM
i started out as neolib 😐
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:30 AM
didnt we all tho
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:30 AM
now were just waiting for the modern day 48'
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:30 AM
that's like status quo
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Kermit the C_L_A_M 10-Dec-20 11:30 AM
ive hovered around the same semi auth far left region
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cbass 10-Dec-20 11:30 AM
😐 yes.
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 11:30 AM
neolib is indocrinated by schools
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:30 AM
excdpt we hopefully win some this time
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 11:30 AM
although it's becoming ancom
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:30 AM
the paris commune LETSFUCKINGGOOOOOOO
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Kermit the C_L_A_M 10-Dec-20 11:30 AM
no
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:30 AM
LETSFUCKINGGOOOOOOO
i wish
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Kermit the C_L_A_M 10-Dec-20 11:30 AM
ive basically just been ideologies that are close to me politically rather than moving towards ideologies (edited)
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cbass 10-Dec-20 11:31 AM
neolib > socdem > ancap > trot > demsoc > libsoc > ancom > undetermined (present)
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:31 AM
RIP, first socialist revolt in histry
the Commune will always live in our hearts
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cbass 10-Dec-20 11:31 AM
god save the commune
wait i missed part
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:31 AM
my history teacher is an unironic tankie
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:31 AM
they shouldn't have paused thier advance for negotiations
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:31 AM
motherfucker is based though
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cbass 10-Dec-20 11:32 AM
neolib > socdem > ancap > trot > demsoc > libsoc > ansynd > ancom > ansynd > undetermined (present)
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Kermit the C_L_A_M 10-Dec-20 11:32 AM
baby > vague socialist > Hard core Leninist > Trot > Syndie > the cluster fuck that is me synthesizing my own shit
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:32 AM
We had a debate on the use of the Atom Bomb and he said it was completely justified afterwards b/c it killed fascists
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:32 AM
my econ teacher is a Keynsnian who keeps trying to get me to read some random Italian communist
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:32 AM
i tried synthesizing my own shit
but like
naw nigga
im good
like the weird market syndicalism thing i had going on for a while
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Kermit the C_L_A_M 10-Dec-20 11:32 AM
synthesizing as in, using lables of older idoelogies is less relevant
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cbass 10-Dec-20 11:32 AM
neolib >classical lib > socdem > classical liberal > ancap > trot > demsoc > libsoc > ansynd > ancom > ansynd > undetermined (present)
there
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:33 AM
the econ teacher at our school is a literal ancap lmao, hes so based
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:33 AM
ansynd and ancom practically the same smh
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cbass 10-Dec-20 11:33 AM
i know
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:33 AM
he talked about how he wants to be allowed to smoke and drink in class
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Kermit the C_L_A_M 10-Dec-20 11:33 AM
but realistically my current position would be Jacobin + Syndie + futurist + Maoist
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cbass 10-Dec-20 11:33 AM
my econ teacher was a neocon
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:33 AM
gramsci?
bordigga?
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:33 AM
baby > generic libertarian > trumper > paleocon
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:33 AM
entj
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Kermit the C_L_A_M 10-Dec-20 11:33 AM
i have cummed
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:33 AM
idk how you guys actually change so much
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:33 AM
Apol>SocDem>Democratic Socialist>SocDem>OrthodoxMarxism>AnarchoCommunusm>AnarchoNihilism
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:33 AM
superstructure cuck funwaa
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:33 AM
Progressive liberal > ultra capitalist progressive > socdem > Libsoc > "libertarian socialism with authoritarian characteristics" > IDK but I really like Lenin and have started reading theory
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Sebastian Matthews 10-Dec-20 11:33 AM
My ap history teacher was/is party of the tea party
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:34 AM
fucking, Sraffa or some shit like that
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Kermit the C_L_A_M 10-Dec-20 11:34 AM
when i read lenin i stopped being a leninist entj
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:34 AM
I think that's the name
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:34 AM
can we switch mine is an unironic tankie AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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cbass 10-Dec-20 11:34 AM
lefty ideologies vary a lot more than right ones
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:34 AM
bordiga is too fat to be trusted
entj
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:34 AM
leftists be like: splits the party
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:34 AM
yeah you guys dont have any mainstream political representation so that's bound to happen
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:35 AM
baby>"progressive/lib soc (i was dumb)>highschool neolib>right center
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:35 AM
I want the DSA to die and at least stop focusing on idpol
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Kermit the C_L_A_M 10-Dec-20 11:35 AM
the underlying political postion of mine is that ever since i read the social contract i have basically just been a modern Rousseau
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:35 AM
do you have any theory reccomendations? I've only really read state and rev so far
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:35 AM
stop reading theory
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Sebastian Matthews 10-Dec-20 11:35 AM
Fun fact he ended up on an Israel news sites after a speech he gave 😅 (edited)
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cbass 10-Dec-20 11:35 AM
yeah exactly so there's a lot more theoretical parts that kind of get left open to interpretation
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:36 AM
idk what tendency I am now
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:36 AM
Anti-Duhring Unique and it’s property Uhhh What is property Ethics inventing right and wrong Blessed is the flame And most importantly Music Theory 101
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 11:36 AM
Apolitical -> Minarchist -> Libertarian Synthesis untroll
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Kermit the C_L_A_M 10-Dec-20 11:36 AM
well perosnally ive read state and rev, what is to be done, some of his other stuff whaich was pointless, i would reocmend more broad political philosophy, as in, the social contract is the most based book you will ever read
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cbass 10-Dec-20 11:36 AM
go back to part one, you'll be happier
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:36 AM
lmao based as fuck. Mine just hates Nazis and the japanese (idk why). Is really old school though, doesnt believe in idpol at all.
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:36 AM
lmao read music theory
Yes
Based
Read all of it
i read julius caesar writing about genociding and enslaving gaul, thats my theory.... time for praxis
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:37 AM
you can kinda see that with islamist vs christian vs pagan neonazis but it's on a wider scale for you guys
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Kermit the C_L_A_M 10-Dec-20 11:37 AM
i would also say read mao but thats just me
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:37 AM
Kill the Frenchmen, Save the world.
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:37 AM
Read Proudhon
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Kermit the C_L_A_M 10-Dec-20 11:37 AM
no
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:37 AM
Only chads can (edited)
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Kermit the C_L_A_M 10-Dec-20 11:37 AM
fuck anarchists
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:37 AM
Do it
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Kermit the C_L_A_M 10-Dec-20 11:38 AM
k
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cbass 10-Dec-20 11:38 AM
exactly, in christiandom, ideas are far more practiced, and plus there's a lot more organization to keep things consistent
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Sebastian Matthews 10-Dec-20 11:38 AM
I mean I can agree with hating nazis and imperial Japanese but also fuck tankies
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:38 AM
nah, Tankies are based
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Avatar Kermit the C_L_A_M fuck anarchists
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Sebastian Matthews 10-Dec-20 11:38 AM
Please do 😩😩😩
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:38 AM
Yeah i don't like any of the 3 lmao.
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Kermit the C_L_A_M 10-Dec-20 11:38 AM
a lot of the stuff i use for theory isnt poltical theory but more philosophy or sociology chad
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:39 AM
Sociology often assumes social organization is necessary which is kinda weird
its telling that your guys ideas change when you flip between different authors.... like you dont have any ideas of your own entj
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cbass 10-Dec-20 11:39 AM
same
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:39 AM
I like sociology tho
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Kermit the C_L_A_M 10-Dec-20 11:39 AM
becuase it is, cope harder stirneroid
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:39 AM
It’s fun
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:39 AM
Stirner believe in a union of egoists nerd
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Kermit the C_L_A_M 10-Dec-20 11:39 AM
ik
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:39 AM
baby > idk some sort of liberal/socdem > social libertarian > democratic socialist > libertarian socialist (who also simped for tankies) > mutualist > libsoc (w/o tankie simping) > some sort of parecon enjoyer > ansynd > ancom
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:39 AM
I’m not a stirnerite
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 11:39 AM
jewish nazism is unironically a valid ideology that I believe in
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:39 AM
YOURE !#
*13
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Kermit the C_L_A_M 10-Dec-20 11:39 AM
its all the same troll
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:39 AM
yes
cope
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:39 AM
Yeah I think it might just be something more hardwired into politics. Like people focus more on one thing one the right (although it can vary) and if you agree with them on that then they ride with you. Leftists want you to agree with everything they say usually.
I might be wrong, its more common than me being right (edited)
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:40 AM
i do the "is this a good idea that will help me" if yes i support if no i dont no reading dead stinky italians
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:40 AM
i was anti-trump during the election troll
also the amount of politics my middle school made us do agony
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 11:40 AM
FUCK BIDEN
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Dec-20 11:40 AM
Apolitical -> Minarchist -> Libertarian -> Classical Fascist troll
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cbass 10-Dec-20 11:40 AM
yeah that's definitely true lmao
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:40 AM
we have books 1~3 of the Abrahamic series, when does book four come out? It's been a while
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Dec-20 11:40 AM
https://discord.com/channels/705637850967834665/719285463692607558/786665544027209780 I’m confused as to why two Libertarians signed this bill which restricts liberties
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:41 AM
book of mormon lmao
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cbass 10-Dec-20 11:41 AM
BECAUSE THE LP ARE TRAITORS TO LIBERTARIANISM LOVE LIVE LIBERTY (edited)
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:41 AM
Dear lord Rex would cream his pants
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:41 AM
LOBERTY
LOBERTY
LOBERTY
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:41 AM
nah, that's a fanfic
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:41 AM
LOBERTY
Avatar Sen. Empharius nah, that's a fanfic
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:41 AM
true true
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:41 AM
I'll be honest, I kinda stopped following the series a bit ago, the Jesus fandom is just too toxic
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:41 AM
Bahai is book 4
Avatar Senator Morshu Ferrok https://discord.com/channels/705637850967834665/719285463692607558/786665544027209780 I’m confused as to why two Libertarians signed this bill which restricts liberties
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 11:41 AM
wutr
none of us signed it
what are you on
Avatar Deleted User Bahai is book 4
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:42 AM
what's tht one?
Avatar Sen. Empharius nah, that's a fanfic
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:42 AM
Bro I know Mormons and they're based as fuck lmao. If you look at it from a community perspective they're very collectivist. But they're also religious so you might hate them
Avatar Hippe Hoppe wutr
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Dec-20 11:42 AM
An FSL member and a PIP member signed it
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:42 AM
its a combination of all of them in some cringe ecumenicistic mess
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:42 AM
wh
who signed in te FSL?
did i?
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Dec-20 11:42 AM
Ferry
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 11:42 AM
the FSL is ancom
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:42 AM
oh
yea
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 11:42 AM
wtf are you talking about
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Kermit the C_L_A_M 10-Dec-20 11:42 AM
mormons are literally the worst of humanity I can say this as half my family is mormon
Avatar Hippe Hoppe the FSL is ancom
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:42 AM
ancom is a subset of libertarianism (edited)
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Dec-20 11:43 AM
Anarchy is a variation of Libertarianism
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Kermit the C_L_A_M 10-Dec-20 11:43 AM
i am ethnically mormon entj
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:43 AM
mormons are cringe heretics
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:43 AM
entj
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 11:43 AM
oh when i see libertarianism i think of bottomright
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:43 AM
tru
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:43 AM
no
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 11:43 AM
anarchy is libertarianism but based
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Dec-20 11:43 AM
Maybe y’all should change your party name to reflect that then
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:43 AM
That sucks. The Mormons I know are great people.
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Kermit the C_L_A_M 10-Dec-20 11:43 AM
mormons breed a really bad social enviroment unironically
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:43 AM
but that's bc right-libs had liberal stolen from them
Avatar Sen. Empharius no
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Dec-20 11:43 AM
yes
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:43 AM
when when people think anarchy means more democracy
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character-confusion 10-Dec-20 11:43 AM
wow
chat chat chat
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Dec-20 11:43 AM
Who said that
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:44 AM
we're being autists
not even talking about policy kekw
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Kermit the C_L_A_M 10-Dec-20 11:44 AM
becuase half their religion is "be normal" but inter perosnal relationships are really toxic with them
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:44 AM
i wouldnt even consider mormons to be christian lmao
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:44 AM
Huh. Who knew, never really been super close to any of them.
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Kermit the C_L_A_M 10-Dec-20 11:44 AM
they are about as christian as deng is maoist
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:44 AM
lmao
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:45 AM
Thats Anti-Democracy, shoot him!
mormonism is the worst splinter group to come out of the protestant reformation second worst is Jehovahs Witnesses
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:45 AM
entj
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:45 AM
Calvinists are also dumb
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:45 AM
I swear you better not insult southern baptists next.
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:45 AM
"God predetermined my wife to cheat on me" troll
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 11:45 AM
mormons are about as christian as catholics are jews
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:45 AM
So help me God.
Avatar parm entj
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:45 AM
Also you literally just asked for a Technocratic viewpoint lmao
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 11:46 AM
like it's not wrong to say that they are
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:46 AM
All prots are dumb chad
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Kermit the C_L_A_M 10-Dec-20 11:46 AM
the other half of my family is calvinist boohooo
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:46 AM
anything is better than this senate tbh
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cbass 10-Dec-20 11:46 AM
I HATE CALVINISTS AND SOUTHERN BAPTIISTS
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FUCK PROTTIES
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 11:46 AM
presbytarian church the one true church
funwaa 2
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:46 AM
anyone who isnt in the Orthodox Church is a heretic entj
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:46 AM
fuck abrahamic religion niggas funwaa
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Sen. Empharius 10-Dec-20 11:46 AM
fuck the prots, fuck the caths
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:46 AM
Yes.
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Dec-20 11:46 AM
Abrahamic Religions are kinda cringe ngl
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 11:46 AM
bro how dare you insult zoroastrianism
ima fuck you up
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:46 AM
Anarchy means less Democracy because more people will die and so less to be Democratic. You know what, I love Anarchy meow.
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cbass 10-Dec-20 11:46 AM
shut the fuck up bitchass "mary wasn't based" ass bitch
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:46 AM
libertation theology is based
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:46 AM
Cringe, imagine not liking prots for killing more catholics than the orthos ever did.
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:46 AM
zoroastrianism is abrahamic/
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Dec-20 11:47 AM
No
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 11:47 AM
yeah
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cbass 10-Dec-20 11:47 AM
ay fuck you fuckin prot
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:47 AM
ahura mazda be rolling his eyes at yall smh
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:47 AM
Even A—An—Anarch— 🤮
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 11:47 AM
i do be a rastafarian
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:47 AM
imagine not having apostolic succession funwaa
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:47 AM
I bet you're c*tholic. Sweden killed millions of your kind, we'll do it again.
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:47 AM
i am a pastafarian
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:47 AM
imagine having sola scriptura
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:47 AM
My man is Angra Mainyu, fuck your Ahura Mazda
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cbass 10-Dec-20 11:47 AM
i respect sweden BUT I FUCKING HATE PROTS
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:47 AM
also isnt there a jewish religion that also likes nazis?
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:47 AM
Imagine needing some old pedo fuck to tell you God's word. Sad!
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:48 AM
Ja
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:48 AM
imagine thinking we have a Pope
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:48 AM
entj
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cbass 10-Dec-20 11:48 AM
fuckin prots
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 11:48 AM
imagine not having your people historically be the punching bag of the world, only to finally get a guarantee of land, but the fucking muslims are salty that we're better than them in every way so they keep bombing our synagogues
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:48 AM
gh
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 11:48 AM
kinda cringe, ngl
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:48 AM
I prefer the antipope
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:48 AM
cope!
troll
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:48 AM
Pope and antipope are cringe
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Dec-20 11:48 AM
I prefer the anti-anti antipope
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:48 AM
Ja
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Hippe Hoppe 10-Dec-20 11:48 AM
i prefer poop
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:48 AM
I just want Roman Orthodoxy boohooo
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parm 10-Dec-20 11:48 AM
my peeps got cucked by muslims and brits
Avatar Senator Morshu Ferrok I prefer the anti-anti antipope
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:48 AM
I prefer the antichrist
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:48 AM
>implying I was talking about orthodox christians I respect Russians for killing the Fr*nch, another subhuman catholic race (edited)
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Dec-20 11:48 AM
Ok Rasputin
The only good Orthodoxy is Coptic
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cbass 10-Dec-20 11:49 AM
i do too, benedict xiii gang rise up
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:49 AM
Coptics are based but theres some technical differences
their iconography is beautiful
my uber driver in florida is coptic and he was epic
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cbass 10-Dec-20 11:50 AM
coptics are based as fuck
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:50 AM
from egypt too
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Dec-20 11:50 AM
AntiIconoclasm is kinda based
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:50 AM
Coptics are probably the closest church to Orthodoxy
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cbass 10-Dec-20 11:50 AM
cross christian unity is orthodox and catholics hating protties and loving coptics
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:50 AM
I wanna heal the Coptic schism more than the catholic one
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Dec-20 11:50 AM
I like them because Prester John
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cbass 10-Dec-20 11:50 AM
everyone does
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:51 AM
the catholics are too fargone after Vatican I and II
its sad
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cbass 10-Dec-20 11:51 AM
billy said fuck women
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:51 AM
i want Hagia Sophia back more than anything tho boohooo
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:51 AM
Are prots closer than caths to orthos?
Hmmmm
I never cared about subhuman catholics and their history
Might have to research this
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Dec-20 11:51 AM
Konstantinopolis must be reclaimed
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cbass 10-Dec-20 11:52 AM
prots are further from orthodox than catholics but in a different direction
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:52 AM
yeah lmao
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cbass 10-Dec-20 11:52 AM
calvinist prots^
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:52 AM
YES
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cbass 10-Dec-20 11:52 AM
YES
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:53 AM
What about reformed christians?
wait
I forget, isn't calvinist reformed?
Lutherans are way different from Calvinists
And Baptists are different from both.
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:55 AM
anything that isnt orthodox is heretical
but then we go to which orthodox bishops are in heresy entj
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:55 AM
ffs
just say you hate catholics
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:55 AM
cause Moscow and Constantinople are nearing schism
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:55 AM
dont say the prot part out loud
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 11:55 AM
lmao
i left out the anti-protestant part of the P platform when we did the merger
*NCP
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Sen. James Durham 10-Dec-20 11:57 AM
hooray
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 12:08 PM
@character-confusion I’m v sorry for pinging.... Is that any better?
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character-confusion 10-Dec-20 12:08 PM
What specifically?
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 12:10 PM
Changed charter, defined class 2, made some grammatical and syntactual improvements
Also I made sure the first bit was in size 11 (edited)
I had to write it on mobile which was tricky
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character-confusion 10-Dec-20 12:23 PM
@Deleted User so its ready to go up?
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 12:25 PM
Ye
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Deleted User 10-Dec-20 06:21 PM
We got da sigs boohooo
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parm 10-Dec-20 06:22 PM
@character-confusion
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cbass 11-Dec-20 07:42 PM
@Big Brother (Clement2022) what bill
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Dec-20 07:43 PM
The Anti-Terrorism & Infrastructure bill
I figured
basically
it started as only anti-terrorism
but I read that connecting people is the best way to counter-terrorism
entj 1
so I added the infrastructure part
and the natural conclusion is that we should also integrate PAR to counter-terrorism
but my bill lets them have a referendum first
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parm 11-Dec-20 07:44 PM
based
@cbass add a referendum provision for the bill
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cbass 11-Dec-20 07:46 PM
already did
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Dec-20 07:46 PM
(gh)
(I'd prefer to do it all at once)
(so my approval rating goes up entj)
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cbass 11-Dec-20 07:46 PM
blow me
mine is 0.7 cause i left the damn party to a couple of jackasses
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Dec-20 07:47 PM
lmao
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cbass 11-Dec-20 07:47 PM
i have to fix months worths of mistakes
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Dec-20 07:47 PM
I mean
I inherited this party when it was one of the lowest parties too
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Sen. James Durham 11-Dec-20 07:47 PM
Be more realistic, you have years worth of mistakes jammed into a month
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parm 11-Dec-20 07:47 PM
entj
gh!
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Dec-20 07:47 PM
Yeah I'll be honest I would just create another party
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cbass 11-Dec-20 07:47 PM
you right
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Dec-20 07:48 PM
0.7 is too much to fix lmao
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parm 11-Dec-20 07:48 PM
the FSL's rating was one of the highest until i fled to bolivia
troll l
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cbass 11-Dec-20 07:48 PM
you gotta believe
ill get there
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Sebastian Matthews 11-Dec-20 09:42 PM
If the senate ever has above like at 20% aproval id be shocked (edited)
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Sen. James Durham 11-Dec-20 09:43 PM
we have 12%
HIGHER THAN CONGRESS
LETSFUCKINGGOOOOOOO
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Sebastian Matthews 11-Dec-20 09:43 PM
HELL YEAH
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character-confusion 11-Dec-20 09:43 PM
is that true?
smh let's fix that
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Sen. James Durham 11-Dec-20 09:43 PM
A bunch of larping teens are better at their jobs than Congress
POG
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Dec-20 09:44 PM
I am also better than congress.
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character-confusion 11-Dec-20 09:44 PM
better?
Avatar character-confusion is that true?
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Sebastian Matthews 11-Dec-20 09:44 PM
please no
Avatar character-confusion smh let's fix that
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Sen. James Durham 11-Dec-20 09:44 PM
Please no
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character-confusion 11-Dec-20 09:44 PM
funwaa
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Sen. James Durham 11-Dec-20 09:44 PM
It's only by like a single %
and it's le funny
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character-confusion 11-Dec-20 09:44 PM
but
half of you guys are in jail rn...
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Dec-20 09:44 PM
Epic.
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Sebastian Matthews 11-Dec-20 09:45 PM
only the bh
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Sen. James Durham 11-Dec-20 09:45 PM
oh wait
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Dec-20 09:45 PM
@character-confusion make a military approval rating
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Sen. James Durham 11-Dec-20 09:45 PM
it's 23%
mb
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Dec-20 09:45 PM
Junta time troll
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character-confusion 11-Dec-20 09:45 PM
ookie
how's that?
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Sen. James Durham 11-Dec-20 09:48 PM
basado
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cbass 12-Dec-20 07:49 AM
@BrosPros 2 things first, tamara is a she, not a he and second, put my siggie on there
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cbass 15-Dec-20 08:59 PM
NUKES? LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOO
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character-confusion 15-Dec-20 09:04 PM
Use is to be decided by a committee of 3 decided by introducers of the act
spinthink
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Sen. Alexander Lanark 15-Dec-20 09:08 PM
don't worry
for safety reasons
so no terrorist can mcnuke us
don't think about it too hard
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Sen. James Durham 15-Dec-20 09:35 PM
Hahhahahhaha
Veto it please
Hahha
Or dont actually
More based that way
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character-confusion 15-Dec-20 09:35 PM
Just noticed did you entp
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cbass 31-Dec-20 02:26 PM
@Senator Uzbek III Esq. put my siggie
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Senator Uzbek III Esq. 31-Dec-20 02:26 PM
sure
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Deleted User 31-Dec-20 02:26 PM
@Senator Uzbek III Esq. add my sig: Sen. Lucius S. Buccio, ASS
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Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP 31-Dec-20 02:27 PM
@Senator Uzbek III Esq. well china can’t be trusted
Siggy?
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Senator Uzbek III Esq. 31-Dec-20 02:27 PM
thanks guys
Avatar Senator Uzbek III Esq. thanks guys
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Sen. James Durham 31-Dec-20 02:28 PM
change ban to shamelessly steal and make an alternative troll
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Senator Uzbek III Esq. 31-Dec-20 02:28 PM
lol
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Sen. James Durham 31-Dec-20 02:28 PM
jk good bill put my sig
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Senator Uzbek III Esq. 31-Dec-20 02:28 PM
Patrium+
should be our state mandated social media
troll
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parm 31-Dec-20 02:29 PM
@Senator Uzbek III Esq. what if you included a clause that nationalizes all of the banned companies' assets in patrium
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Senator Uzbek III Esq. 31-Dec-20 02:29 PM
hmmm
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parm 31-Dec-20 02:29 PM
that would be based i think
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Senator Uzbek III Esq. 31-Dec-20 02:29 PM
I'll think about that
what do the rest of you guys think
any alterations?
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Sen. James Durham 31-Dec-20 02:30 PM
Nah don't nationalize
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parm 31-Dec-20 02:30 PM
why not?
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Sen. James Durham 31-Dec-20 02:30 PM
businesses are leaving rn b/c of nationalization
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parm 31-Dec-20 02:30 PM
they're gonna be banned anyways
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Sen. James Durham 31-Dec-20 02:30 PM
doing more of it as one of the first moves of the new senate is a bad sign to the rest of the world
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parm 31-Dec-20 02:30 PM
when was the last time we've nationalized amything 🤔
the last nationalization was of patrian construction co. a few years prior iirc
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Senator Uzbek III Esq. 31-Dec-20 02:31 PM
wait how do I make myself anonymous in the google doc
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parm 31-Dec-20 02:31 PM
🤔
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Sen. James Durham 31-Dec-20 02:34 PM
ask the mods theyre the ones saying businesses are leaving
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Senator Uzbek III Esq. 31-Dec-20 02:35 PM
anyone else interested in signing?
Senator Durham, could you forward the bill to your party? perhaps they'd be interested as well
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Sen. James Durham 31-Dec-20 02:39 PM
maybe
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cbass 31-Dec-20 05:52 PM
@Sen. James Durham damn 😔 didn't even ask for my help
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Sen. James Durham 31-Dec-20 05:53 PM
It's just the statue one
:P
the actual bill is something I just got back to after studying for the SAT
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cbass 31-Dec-20 05:53 PM
oh shit
different one
got confused
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Sen. James Durham 31-Dec-20 05:53 PM
Honoring our Nation vs Healing our Nation
very different
troll
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cbass 31-Dec-20 05:54 PM
got confused bebecito
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Your Friend Tamara 31-Dec-20 05:55 PM
@Sen. James Durham idc what the bill says, you wrote it, it's shit.
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cbass 31-Dec-20 05:58 PM
@Sen. James Durham accept my edits
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Sen. James Durham 31-Dec-20 05:58 PM
oh yeah mb
meant to put that for chu
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cbass 31-Dec-20 05:59 PM
thanks babe
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Sen. James Durham 31-Dec-20 05:59 PM
but bro it's the basedest bill
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cbass 31-Dec-20 05:59 PM
also put WUF for me now
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Sen. James Durham 31-Dec-20 05:59 PM
smh
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cbass 31-Dec-20 05:59 PM
instead of MLF
< 3 (edited)
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Sen. James Durham 31-Dec-20 05:59 PM
kk
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cbass 31-Dec-20 05:59 PM
its a solid bill ngl
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Sen. James Durham 31-Dec-20 05:59 PM
very good bill
the best of bills
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cbass 31-Dec-20 06:00 PM
bestest of bills
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Your Friend Tamara 31-Dec-20 06:08 PM
@cbass idc how good it is, he wrote it
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Sen. James Durham 31-Dec-20 06:09 PM
but
i
:(
If I made a trans rights bill you would shoot it down?
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cbass 31-Dec-20 06:11 PM
don't be so partisan
fuckin cuck
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Your Friend Tamara 31-Dec-20 06:13 PM
I'm prob gonna vote yes, but just let me shit on this bill for rn.
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cbass 31-Dec-20 06:13 PM
sign it
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parm 31-Dec-20 07:04 PM
i want to bomb the statues
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Deleted User 31-Dec-20 07:44 PM
@Sen. James Durham add my sig
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Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP 01-Jan-21 03:50 PM
I took an random empty file
Wait
I need to edit something
BILL IS NOT FINISHED
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Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP 02-Jan-21 04:15 PM
Man I think I’m fucking (not fucking) done (at all, oh my fucking shithead there’s too much shitfuckery), unless someone else is negotiating with like 5+ countries
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Sen. James Durham 02-Jan-21 05:39 PM
fuck them we'll invade them all and destabilize them
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character-confusion 02-Jan-21 05:42 PM
✋ fixing your country's problems so businesses don't hate you 👉 causing problems for other countries so businesses hate them more
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Kermit the C_L_A_M 02-Jan-21 05:42 PM
😎
gaming
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Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP 02-Jan-21 05:51 PM
...
Bruhs
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 02-Jan-21 06:13 PM
Damnit, I wish I'm in my computer, the Ele template would be really useful for that
There it is
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character-confusion 02-Jan-21 06:18 PM
lol
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cbass 02-Jan-21 07:43 PM
good plan
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Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP 03-Jan-21 01:08 AM
Improve coal industry for better productions!
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 04-Jan-21 11:48 PM
(@Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP lol I already have a Civil Rights Act in the rebellion days)
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Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP 04-Jan-21 11:48 PM
(Well fuck)
Avatar Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP (Well fuck)
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 04-Jan-21 11:51 PM
(https://docs.google.com/document/d/16PjL4IJLBNn9SdzfC_CSl5923KyBd0xSyfub1X-nJ5c/edit?usp=drivesdk) (The rebel government's Civil Rights Act, complete with a touch of panarchist magic of regional overturn)
Civil Rights Act Whereas citizen not conforming to the normality is discriminated against. With neither the Senate nor the regions have the power to protect civil liberties of these citizens. Be the Senate of the Darseny Confederation enact this bill to protect the rights of people Federal reco...
(probably modify this?)
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Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP 04-Jan-21 11:52 PM
Ok?
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Truer King KingKingKing 04-Jan-21 11:53 PM
Yo @Dr. Kris Lawrence Thats terrible lmao
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Sen. James Durham 04-Jan-21 11:53 PM
exactly
it is a based civil rights law
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Truer King KingKingKing 04-Jan-21 11:53 PM
It isn’t
It is extremely biased, and specifically focused on certain groups
Bills of Rights are supposed to be all-encompassing
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Sen. James Durham 04-Jan-21 11:54 PM
Don't care
cope
seethe
dilate
incel
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Truer King KingKingKing 04-Jan-21 11:54 PM
Literally 2/3s of it is just for a single letter of LGBTQ+
And it is also incredibly specific
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Your Friend Tamara 04-Jan-21 11:55 PM
based??????????????
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Truer King KingKingKing 04-Jan-21 11:55 PM
Whereas Bill of Rights are supposed to be generalized and non-specific
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 04-Jan-21 11:55 PM
I mean, use it as a foundation
Avatar Your Friend Tamara based??????????????
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Truer King KingKingKing 04-Jan-21 11:55 PM
Im arguing against that lmao
Avatar Truer King KingKingKing Im arguing against that lmao
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Your Friend Tamara 04-Jan-21 11:55 PM
Ik, I'm just tryna be biased.
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Dieselkeough 05-Jan-21 03:03 AM
@Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP the rebels civil rights act was never legally binding
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Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP 05-Jan-21 03:47 AM
I’m confused by the 1st passage, and why is it 12 hr voting instead of the standered 24
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Dieselkeough 05-Jan-21 03:55 AM
Because at that time voting standards by mods wasnt a thing yet
Also first passage states no law shall be passed which discriminates or prevents the discrimination of people.
However it does not prevent action made by executive branches made on their own accord
Or actions made by government entities on their own accord
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Truer King KingKingKing 05-Jan-21 08:51 AM
Doesn’t that mean without a repeal, that an Equal Rights Act of any kind is Illegal?
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Your Friend Tamara 05-Jan-21 09:35 AM
@character-confusion are there actually 2.million solarist in this country?
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Truer King KingKingKing 05-Jan-21 09:36 AM
Whats the pop of Patrium again?
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 09:36 AM
38,000,000 i think
it was 31mil before thuzi war
and 5% of 38 mil is around 2 mil
so i said approx in the bill
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Truer King KingKingKing 05-Jan-21 09:38 AM
Wait, when did the Thuzoid war happen
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cbass 05-Jan-21 09:39 AM
2 years ago ic
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Truer King KingKingKing 05-Jan-21 09:39 AM
So 2020?
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Your Friend Tamara 05-Jan-21 09:39 AM
How is there 5%? How?
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cbass 05-Jan-21 09:39 AM
i think so, yes
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Your Friend Tamara 05-Jan-21 09:39 AM
How
Avatar Your Friend Tamara How is there 5%? How?
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cbass 05-Jan-21 09:39 AM
7 solarist senators
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Truer King KingKingKing 05-Jan-21 09:39 AM
Ew
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Your Friend Tamara 05-Jan-21 09:39 AM
HOW HOW
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cbass 05-Jan-21 09:39 AM
and 7/98 is about 7%
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Truer King KingKingKing 05-Jan-21 09:40 AM
What does Constantines Heretical version of Solarism even believe in?
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cbass 05-Jan-21 09:40 AM
so there's actually closer to 3 million
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 09:40 AM
bruh it isnt constantine
constantine is gone
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Truer King KingKingKing 05-Jan-21 09:40 AM
Idc
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Your Friend Tamara 05-Jan-21 09:40 AM
@character-confusion HOW ARE THERE SO MANY SOLARIST FUCKS?
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 09:40 AM
ok trotskyite
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Truer King KingKingKing 05-Jan-21 09:40 AM
Bacciball, what does Solarism even believe in
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 09:40 AM
the Unconquerable Sun
and one nation under one god
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cbass 05-Jan-21 09:41 AM
and one nation under one Sun*
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 09:41 AM
or in this case one island
with one leader
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cbass 05-Jan-21 09:41 AM
one island under the sun????
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 09:41 AM
Yes.
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cbass 05-Jan-21 09:41 AM
weezer moment????
patrium's national anthem after the solarists take over^
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 09:42 AM
the motto of the party is Dominus et Deus, master and god
which is how we will run the nation
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cbass 05-Jan-21 09:42 AM
virgin auth solarists vs chad lib solarists
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 09:42 AM
we need a competent military leader on the throne of patrium
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Your Friend Tamara 05-Jan-21 09:42 AM
@cbass @Deleted User
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 09:42 AM
while in power it wouldnt be super auth
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Your Friend Tamara 05-Jan-21 09:42 AM
@Deleted User @cbass
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cbass 05-Jan-21 09:42 AM
cope harder, fag
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 09:42 AM
at the individual level
like people would just kinda vibe
at least Patrian people would
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Truer King KingKingKing 05-Jan-21 09:44 AM
I mean, this is all extremely non-specific and just very generalised tbh
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 09:44 AM
Yes.
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cbass 05-Jan-21 09:44 AM
yes.
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Your Friend Tamara 05-Jan-21 09:44 AM
There is no realistic way this nation could have 2 million solarist.
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Truer King KingKingKing 05-Jan-21 09:45 AM
I mean it makes sense, its just a copy and paste of Christianity and Islam
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Your Friend Tamara 05-Jan-21 09:45 AM
@Truer King KingKingKing it isn't
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 09:45 AM
it can also be more of a philosophy than a religion
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Your Friend Tamara 05-Jan-21 09:45 AM
This is just unrealistic
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Truer King KingKingKing 05-Jan-21 09:45 AM
It absolutely it
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Your Friend Tamara 05-Jan-21 09:45 AM
Like wtf
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 09:45 AM
it is popular among natives too
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Sen. James Durham 05-Jan-21 09:45 AM
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cbass 05-Jan-21 09:46 AM
Gun_Left Gun_Right
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Your Friend Tamara 05-Jan-21 09:46 AM
Based
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Truer King KingKingKing 05-Jan-21 09:46 AM
Dude, besides the competent military leader part, literally everything stated thus far is how most theocracies operate
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Your Friend Tamara 05-Jan-21 09:46 AM
This is a secular nation
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cbass 05-Jan-21 09:46 AM
theocracies are commies
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Your Friend Tamara 05-Jan-21 09:47 AM
We have always had a large secular movement
Avatar Your Friend Tamara This is a secular nation
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Truer King KingKingKing 05-Jan-21 09:47 AM
So is the USA and yet that is like 60+% Christian
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cbass 05-Jan-21 09:47 AM
^
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 09:47 AM
had
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 05-Jan-21 09:47 AM
Agreed
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 09:47 AM
this nation also is run by teenagers entj
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Truer King KingKingKing 05-Jan-21 09:47 AM
As much as Bill Bill is a heretic, his dies religion is at least realistic
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 09:48 AM
based
i like the heretic thing since it can be used for whatever lmao
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Truer King KingKingKing 05-Jan-21 09:48 AM
Like 95+% lmao Like myself and prob a few others are the only adults herw
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Your Friend Tamara 05-Jan-21 09:48 AM
WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD WORSHIP THE SUN?
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cbass 05-Jan-21 09:48 AM
^^^^^
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Truer King KingKingKing 05-Jan-21 09:48 AM
Me
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cbass 05-Jan-21 09:48 AM
me
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Your Friend Tamara 05-Jan-21 09:48 AM
GOD FUCKING DAMNIT
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Truer King KingKingKing 05-Jan-21 09:48 AM
I am a Solarist in real life
Which is why I hate Billy
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Sen. James Durham 05-Jan-21 09:48 AM
..........
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 09:49 AM
........
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cbass 05-Jan-21 09:49 AM
i converted irl just now
just to piss you off
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 09:49 AM
based
fuck the darkness praise the sun, veni vidi Patrium
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cbass 05-Jan-21 09:49 AM
i'm literally sobbing right now because the sun is behind clouds
cryingsunglasses 3
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cbass 05-Jan-21 09:49 AM
i came i saw patrium
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Truer King KingKingKing 05-Jan-21 09:50 AM
Its not behind the clouds, its above them
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cbass 05-Jan-21 09:50 AM
it's being shielded from us
we are being punished for our sins
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Your Friend Tamara 05-Jan-21 09:50 AM
@cbass good
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Truer King KingKingKing 05-Jan-21 09:50 AM
Goddamn Heretics I swear by the Gods
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Sen. James Durham 05-Jan-21 09:50 AM
Sign the bill killing drug dealers or I filibuster the Senate and nothing passes
handwithgun
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Truer King KingKingKing 05-Jan-21 09:51 AM
Go ahead, Fillibuster
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cbass 05-Jan-21 09:51 AM
yooo we should be able to actually filibuster
that'd be tight
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Sen. James Durham 05-Jan-21 09:51 AM
We kinda can
In debates
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cbass 05-Jan-21 09:52 AM
ehhh
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Sen. James Durham 05-Jan-21 09:52 AM
and the NOTA option
imagine
filibustering requires you to type something of substance every minute about the bill
hahahaha
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 05-Jan-21 09:52 AM
It happened once
But we stopped filibusters.
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cbass 05-Jan-21 09:53 AM
cringe
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 05-Jan-21 09:53 AM
It happened for one of the first bills that was very decisive.
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cbass 05-Jan-21 09:53 AM
divisive*
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Truer King KingKingKing 05-Jan-21 09:53 AM
Eh, just read Green Eggs and Ham
Its what Ted Cruz would do
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Sen. James Durham 05-Jan-21 09:54 AM
based Cruz
The beard makes him more based
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Sen. Empharius 05-Jan-21 01:13 PM
@Deleted User there are not 2 million Solarists, and my character has never made statements against Solarism, nor in favor of Terrorism. Tamara's has never made statements in favor of terrorism either (edited)
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 01:13 PM
How many Solarists are there then?
If it’s around 5%
That’s around 2 million
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Sen. Empharius 05-Jan-21 01:14 PM
it isnt though
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 01:14 PM
It is
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Sen. Empharius 05-Jan-21 01:14 PM
it strait up isnt
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 01:14 PM
Who said it isn’t
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Sen. Empharius 05-Jan-21 01:14 PM
Character said it wasnt yesterday
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 01:14 PM
Character said it wasn’t 7
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Sen. Empharius 05-Jan-21 01:15 PM
there are like 20 Solarists, and most of them are in government
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 01:15 PM
Bruh who would vote for my party besides actual Solarists
The party is for Solarists
Like the Islamic party is for Muslims
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Sen. Empharius 05-Jan-21 01:17 PM
most of them got elected then converted as far as I can tell, and they might just like the party for other reasons
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 01:17 PM
My party isn’t converts
The 4P is
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Sen. Empharius 05-Jan-21 01:18 PM
there are, at max, 50 Solarists in the world
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 01:18 PM
No there’s at least 800
Cause of Ethiopia
Stop seething that people want to have fun
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Sen. Empharius 05-Jan-21 01:18 PM
I also want to have fun
it seems like you are doing everything in our power to prevent that
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 01:18 PM
Bruh I didn’t make the Solarists to annoy you
It’s just an added benefit
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Sen. Empharius 05-Jan-21 01:19 PM
by trying to pass a bill to censure me for made up reasons
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 01:19 PM
chad
But 5% makes sense considering the amount of non convert senators
Like there are 2 parties for Solarism
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Sen. Empharius 05-Jan-21 01:21 PM
5% is insanly high
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 01:22 PM
There’s 7 senators who represent Solarists parties
Not converts
Actual Solarism
Like I’m not gonna stop the party cause you don’t enjoy it
The goal wasn’t to ruin the game for you
It was for me to have fun and do something new with an interesting concept
You just hate it for some reason
Avatar Deleted User Actual Solarism
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Sen. Empharius 05-Jan-21 01:27 PM
as far as I can tell they got elected then converted
and joined the solarist party
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Sen. Empharius 05-Jan-21 01:27 PM
I'm not mad at that, I'm mad that your trying to pass a bill specifically to censure me for something I didnt do, and claiming that 5% of the population have joined your wierd cult
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 01:28 PM
No, the got elected by Solarists from the ASS party
4P is different
Mega and cbass converted post election
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Sen. Empharius 05-Jan-21 01:29 PM
Mega hasnt converted, as far as I can tell
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 01:29 PM
Oh, the cbass is the only one
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Sen. Empharius 05-Jan-21 01:29 PM
they could have gotten elected, then converted and switched to ASS
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 01:29 PM
Or they could’ve gotten elected by Solarists
They never switched parties
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Sen. Empharius 05-Jan-21 01:29 PM
and again, the main issue here is you tyring to pass a bill specifically to cencure me for something that did not happen
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 01:29 PM
Then don’t vote for the bill
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Sen. Empharius 05-Jan-21 01:30 PM
I DIDNT EVEN DO THE THINGS YOUR GODDAMN TALKING ABOUT IN IT
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 01:30 PM
Seethe harder Reaganite
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Sen. Empharius 05-Jan-21 01:32 PM
fuck you
god I'm sick of this
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Sen. James Durham 05-Jan-21 01:33 PM
I would note that Solarism has been around since Schroder
sadly
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 01:33 PM
Yeah it’s not new
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Sen. Empharius 05-Jan-21 01:33 PM
"I'm not trying to make the game not fun for you" "Also here's a bill throwing you out of parliment for something that you never did"
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 01:33 PM
It’s not kicking you out
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Sen. Empharius 05-Jan-21 01:33 PM
I just fucking cant
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 01:33 PM
It’s just a formal condemnation
It’s not removal
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Sen. Empharius 05-Jan-21 01:34 PM
it's a cencure
a censure stops me from speaking in the senate or voting
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 01:34 PM
Which is a formal condemnation
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Sen. Empharius 05-Jan-21 01:34 PM
no
it bans me from speaking in parliment and casting votes
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 01:34 PM
“Less severe than expulsion, a censure (sometimes referred to as condemnation or denouncement) does not remove a senator from office. It is a formal statement of disapproval, however, that can have a powerful psychological effect on a member and his/her relationships in the Senate.” (edited)
It doesn’t prevent anything
It’s finger wagging
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Truer King KingKingKing 05-Jan-21 01:35 PM
Ultra is right bruh
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 01:35 PM
I’m using the US definition
I can change the wording to be condemned
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Truer King KingKingKing 05-Jan-21 01:35 PM
1. You are calling for the Terminatio of his paper
Which is literally the definition of censorship
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 01:35 PM
Yes.
I know
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Truer King KingKingKing 05-Jan-21 01:36 PM
Then, why are you acting like its not
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 01:36 PM
I’m talking about censure
2 different things
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Truer King KingKingKing 05-Jan-21 01:36 PM
You know its just going to be VETOd anyway
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 01:36 PM
I literally don’t care
Why do you guys think I do
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Truer King KingKingKing 05-Jan-21 01:37 PM
Because u big dumb
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 01:37 PM
Bruh you thought censure was censor
I’m censoring his paper yes
But I’m censuring him
Which is literally finger wagging
Like a reprimand, a censure does not remove a member from their office so they retain their title, stature, and power to vote. There are also no legal consequences that come with a reprimand or censure. The main difference is that a reprimand is "considered a slap on the wrist and can be given in private and even in a letter," while a censure is "a form of public shaming in which the politician must stand before his peers to listen to the censure resolution."[3]
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Truer King KingKingKing 05-Jan-21 01:49 PM
and
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 01:50 PM
and it doesnt prevent ultra from speaking
so he's just wrong
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Truer King KingKingKing 05-Jan-21 01:55 PM
and
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Deleted User 05-Jan-21 01:57 PM
thats all
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Sen. Empharius 05-Jan-21 04:14 PM
@BrosPros Note on your bill, Military forces were used after Jamesville in the battle of New Thames, and smaller battles around it
also, I'm thinking about signing, but I dislike the death penalty bit, would it be possible to not have it be the death penatly?
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Your Friend Tamara 05-Jan-21 04:15 PM
^
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BrosPros 05-Jan-21 04:15 PM
I will change that immediately
There
changed it
@Sen. Empharius ^
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Your Friend Tamara 05-Jan-21 04:19 PM
Me omw to sign
@BrosPros I sign it
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BrosPros 05-Jan-21 04:20 PM
cool
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Sen. Empharius 05-Jan-21 04:20 PM
I'll sign
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BrosPros 05-Jan-21 04:20 PM
death penalty is harsh though that paticular area is meant for large cartel leaders
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parm 05-Jan-21 04:21 PM
hmmmm
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BrosPros 05-Jan-21 04:21 PM
though its now not even in the bill anymore
anyways I'll add the siggie
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Sen. James Durham 05-Jan-21 08:31 PM
@Sen. Empharius yeah it was a blatant powergrab for an anti-taylor coup
now cope
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Sen. Empharius 05-Jan-21 08:32 PM
Yeah so now I’m undoing it
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Sen. James Durham 05-Jan-21 08:32 PM
yeah idc
im voting yes
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Kingston 05-Jan-21 08:34 PM
I think the commanding officer should be deiced by the senate
Avatar Sen. James Durham im voting yes
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Sen. Empharius 05-Jan-21 08:37 PM
Character said that you don’t get to appoint the person anyway, so ig there isn’t really a reason for it rn
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Sen. James Durham 05-Jan-21 08:38 PM
obv
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Sen. Empharius 05-Jan-21 08:39 PM
My mistake
Blame @Dieselkeough , they told me you did
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 05-Jan-21 09:51 PM
One minor thing on that bill
Ferrok was never president of the rebellion, that was Chara
Other than that I enjoyed reading the preface
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character-confusion 05-Jan-21 10:27 PM
i seem to remember your nickname set to "president"
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 05-Jan-21 10:28 PM
No?
That was also Chara
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cbass 05-Jan-21 10:28 PM
^
that was chara ye
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 05-Jan-21 10:28 PM
I had mine as Senator for the duration of the cw, then field marshal at the final battle
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 05-Jan-21 10:31 PM
Nope, it's me.
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parm 07-Jan-21 09:29 AM
@Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP lmao that's gonna crash our relationship with china
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Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP 07-Jan-21 09:36 AM
Exactly
But, with enough world opinion that China sucks ass, it won’t be a problem (at least)
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parm 07-Jan-21 09:37 AM
but that woul permanently cuck us to the west
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cbass 07-Jan-21 09:37 AM
^
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parm 07-Jan-21 09:37 AM
we need to remain on good terms with all powers
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cbass 07-Jan-21 09:37 AM
we need to walk a balanced line between the east and the west
☝️ 2
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parm 07-Jan-21 09:37 AM
make them their crown jewel
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parm 07-Jan-21 09:38 AM
get us in a position where we can extract significant demands from all powers
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cbass 07-Jan-21 09:38 AM
^
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Sen. Empharius 07-Jan-21 09:42 AM
China is the biggest investor in our economy, and I would bet anyone here 10 bucks thier going to win the cold war (edited)
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Sen. Cassandra Balistic 07-Jan-21 10:09 AM
unless china becomes based anti revisionist, I am banning them
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parm 07-Jan-21 10:12 AM
smh stick to the party line
hoxha sided with the chinese
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Sen. Cassandra Balistic 07-Jan-21 10:12 AM
Not when they became dengist smh
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parm 07-Jan-21 10:12 AM
true smhmh
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Sen. Cassandra Balistic 07-Jan-21 10:13 AM
he denounced them as social imperialist
when deng took power smh
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Sen. Empharius 07-Jan-21 10:14 AM
Hoxha called Mao a socdem
chad 5
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Sen. Empharius 07-Jan-21 10:14 AM
the thing is, the right is tyring to use anti China legislation to ally with the USA
if we cut them off first, I'm happy to split with the revisionsim and all that
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Sen. Cassandra Balistic 07-Jan-21 10:16 AM
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parm 07-Jan-21 10:17 AM
shqip
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Sen. Empharius 08-Jan-21 01:13 PM
I want to sign the war against Brit*an act but I know that people will use it as fodder against me in the newspapers (edited)
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 08-Jan-21 01:14 PM
It's a based bill
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Deleted User 08-Jan-21 01:15 PM
sign it
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 08-Jan-21 01:15 PM
Sign it
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 01:17 PM
VetoPower
troll
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 08-Jan-21 01:18 PM
peabrain
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parm 08-Jan-21 01:19 PM
peabrain
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 01:23 PM
peabrain
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Your Friend Tamara 08-Jan-21 02:41 PM
peabrain
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 02:46 PM
@Big Brother (Clement2022) so, what do we have in regards to nuclear armaments
in the country, currently, I mean
what are the laws
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 08-Jan-21 02:47 PM
We have 6 nuclear reactors
Well we are in the process of building them
Introduced by: Alexander Lanark (St. Solomon) Signatures: Big Brother (St. Solomon) Alexander Lanark (St. Solomon) Gee Jason Smith (St. Solomon) Jumble Abstract: The Excalibur act is a solution to the foreign interest destabilizing our country, with the successful completion of the reactors,...
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 08-Jan-21 02:48 PM
One is undergoing complete reconstruction after the city it was in was carpetbombed
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 08-Jan-21 02:48 PM
I passed this bill to build nuclear reactors
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cbass 08-Jan-21 02:48 PM
we're also building 3 arms factories and ~8 hospitals
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 02:50 PM
baby bombs, where is the good stuff
range nigga, what range do they have
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 08-Jan-21 02:51 PM
I don't think we're finished with all our reactors first
yet
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 02:51 PM
(do we have to wait 5 actual years hmm )
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parm 08-Jan-21 02:53 PM
nah it's been ~2 years in the sim
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 02:54 PM
how many days is one irl day then
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parm 08-Jan-21 02:55 PM
no fixed timing
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 02:55 PM
... okie
@Big Brother (Clement2022) so tell me, how much money would we be able to save if we were to dismantle the army
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 08-Jan-21 02:56 PM
alot
our military is 50% of our budget
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 02:56 PM
perfect!
@Big Brother (Clement2022) tell me Ele, are you familiar with the concept of Mutually Assured Destruction?
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 08-Jan-21 02:56 PM
@character-confusion the fuck
why is our military budget >15% of GDP
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Your Friend Tamara 08-Jan-21 02:57 PM
Pov: Dismantling the military in a nation that has wars every so often.
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 08-Jan-21 02:57 PM
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 02:57 PM
idk we kept building more stuff
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 08-Jan-21 02:57 PM
We're literally the most militarized nation
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Your Friend Tamara 08-Jan-21 02:57 PM
@StormTigrex destroy out armed forces.
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 02:58 PM
shhh hear me out
we build a bunch of nukes
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 02:58 PM
military isn't 50% of our budget
it's 50% of our income
which is 50% of our budget
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Your Friend Tamara 08-Jan-21 02:58 PM
yes
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 02:58 PM
so 25%
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 02:58 PM
The income: A 10 dollar bill I dropped on the street
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 08-Jan-21 02:58 PM
Our military spending was 40b iirc?
300b gdp
That's like
13%
Close enough to 50%
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 02:59 PM
so how fucked is patrium
yes 1
on a scale of one to patrium
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 08-Jan-21 02:59 PM
I mean
It's not like we'll collapse
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 02:59 PM
hmm
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 08-Jan-21 02:59 PM
It's more like we should cut spending imo
Although not yet
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Your Friend Tamara 08-Jan-21 03:00 PM
no
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 08-Jan-21 03:00 PM
I wanna see what happens in Jazira before we cut our military 😉 (edited)
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Your Friend Tamara 08-Jan-21 03:00 PM
Do you know how to build up under capitalism?
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 03:02 PM
@Big Brother (Clement2022) look, all Im saying is this, we build a couple thousand nukes and spread em nice along the border
if someone invades, boom
plausible deniability, since the strike is in our own territory
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Sen. James Durham 08-Jan-21 03:06 PM
Look all I'm saying is we don't need 20 billion on fucking planes
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 08-Jan-21 03:40 PM
Yes we do if we wanna take over jazira
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cbass 08-Jan-21 04:09 PM
cause we kept increasing it during the war
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cbass 08-Jan-21 04:10 PM
like land mines? (edited)
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 04:11 PM
kinda
@cbass Im talking silos
ensure retaliation
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cbass 08-Jan-21 04:12 PM
sounds interesting
i could get behind that
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 04:12 PM
of course, we must >ensure< retaliation
humans make mistakes
they are not naturally genocidal
that's why we should use an AI as our dead man hand
@cbass a transhumanist touch, if you will
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cbass 08-Jan-21 04:19 PM
how so?
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 04:19 PM
An AI that cares not about the loss of human life
only "the mission"
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cbass 08-Jan-21 04:19 PM
ah..
hmmm
see, the H in TECHNO stands for humanitarian...
but it doesn't say what counts as "human"
i'd be down for that
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 04:20 PM
@cbass of course! it is only a deterrent
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cbass 08-Jan-21 04:20 PM
but we need to do some work on AI before we give it nuclear codes
patrium doesn't have the tech yet
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 04:20 PM
it'd be used for defensive purposes only
that is the second core tenet of Détente, after all
"Never use your nukes first"
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cbass 08-Jan-21 04:21 PM
i wonder if there's a way we could knock out the american's nukes
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 04:21 PM
you dont need a lot of tech to tell a machine to drop a nuke in retaliation
it cannot create a preemptive strike
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cbass 08-Jan-21 04:26 PM
hmm
i still think some research should be done first
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 04:26 PM
of course
@cbass that said, we can get rid of the army
and that's 50% of our income entp
create a small self defence force if the hardliners protest too much about it
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cbass 08-Jan-21 04:27 PM
hmmmm
make religious concessions so i can expand so the right won't get too mad
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 04:28 PM
the right?
dont you mean the left?
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cbass 08-Jan-21 04:28 PM
honestly just like
everyone
the left is generally pro military
and so is the right
and the left is consistently anti-theist
save a couple
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 04:28 PM
do you know how easy it would be for a foreign nation to invade a militaryless Patrium?
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cbass 08-Jan-21 04:29 PM
yes
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 04:29 PM
it's the perfect bait
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cbass 08-Jan-21 04:29 PM
😳
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 04:29 PM
a neocon's dream!
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cbass 08-Jan-21 04:29 PM
the question then becomes
who would invade?
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 04:29 PM
who knows, who cares
its free land for grabs
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cbass 08-Jan-21 04:29 PM
not thuzland, they're still recovering from the war not selva, they're too moderate not jazira, they're on the bring of collapse
the global powers all have interests here, so they'd end up fighting each other and they cant afford that
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 04:30 PM
so no one! great, world peace achieved
its a win-win
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cbass 08-Jan-21 04:30 PM
😎
we genuinely can cut back on the military a lot
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 08-Jan-21 04:30 PM
u know
that like
we cant just justify using a nuke at anyone that invades us
US and China will probably like
sanction us
if we use it first
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cbass 08-Jan-21 04:31 PM
sanction smanction
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 04:31 PM
if someone invaded the US you can be sure as hell they'd unleash
well
hell
we can outsanction the sanctions by abolishing the army
damn
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 08-Jan-21 04:31 PM
nah
US and China has the policy
where they don't fire first iirc
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 04:32 PM
puh-leese
the US wouldnt even let Hawaii get into enemy's hands
let alone if they are losing
that's why you don't just invade a nuclear power
because that's the last stupid decision you'll make
@Big Brother (Clement2022)
hmm
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 08-Jan-21 04:34 PM
lol
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 04:34 PM
so! back to the topic at hand
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 08-Jan-21 04:34 PM
ok but I mean
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 04:34 PM
nukes
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 08-Jan-21 04:35 PM
We can't invade people if we have no military :(
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 04:35 PM
exactly!
world peace achieved
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 08-Jan-21 04:35 PM
And uniting the island is one of my goals
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 04:35 PM
thats why we PUBLICALLY dismantle the army, but PRIVATELY disperse the nukes
Costa Rica style
damn
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 08-Jan-21 04:36 PM
We gotta unite the island first
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 04:36 PM
@Big Brother (Clement2022) also Im in vc, you can just talk to me entp
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 09:46 PM
@cbass @Sen. James Durham hey guys
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cbass 08-Jan-21 09:46 PM
what
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 09:46 PM
are you planning on kicking all foriegn compnaies out of the capitol?
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Sen. James Durham 08-Jan-21 09:46 PM
We are poggers?
No?
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cbass 08-Jan-21 09:46 PM
no
did u read it?
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 09:46 PM
yes
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cbass 08-Jan-21 09:47 PM
read it again
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 09:47 PM
we're reading it in vc
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Sen. James Durham 08-Jan-21 09:47 PM
uh oh
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 09:47 PM
Domestic Production The area of St. Solomon and several surrounding provinces shall be directly burdensome to Patrium and Patrium alone. This shall apply to any private Patrian companies as well as the Patrian Construction Co. No foreign company nor government shall operate within this region, specifically with regard to the repair of Patrium’s infrastructure.
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cbass 08-Jan-21 09:47 PM
specifically with regard to the repair of Patrium’s infrastructure.
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Sen. James Durham 08-Jan-21 09:47 PM
specifically with regard to the repair of Patrium’s infrastructure.
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cbass 08-Jan-21 09:47 PM
did you read that part?
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Sen. James Durham 08-Jan-21 09:47 PM
specifically with regard to the repair of Patrium’s infrastructure.
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cbass 08-Jan-21 09:47 PM
specifically with regard to the repair of Patrium’s infrastructure. (edited)
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Sen. James Durham 08-Jan-21 09:47 PM
specifically with regard to the repair of Patrium’s infrastructure.
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 09:48 PM
okay
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cbass 08-Jan-21 09:48 PM
jumble, should we say it again?
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Sen. James Durham 08-Jan-21 09:48 PM
specifically with regard to the repair of Patrium’s infrastructure.
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cbass 08-Jan-21 09:48 PM
specifically with regard to the repair of Patrium’s infrastructure.
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Sen. James Durham 08-Jan-21 09:48 PM
yes.
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cbass 08-Jan-21 09:48 PM
kay
anywho
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 09:48 PM
more tax cuts?
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cbass 08-Jan-21 09:49 PM
why
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 08-Jan-21 09:50 PM
Hugo add my sig
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Your Friend Tamara 08-Jan-21 09:50 PM
@character-confusion Low tax and high spending is the best way for a developing nation to develop under capitalism.
Avatar Senator Morshu Ferrok Hugo add my sig
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cbass 08-Jan-21 09:50 PM
kay, thanks
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 08-Jan-21 09:50 PM
I didn’t read all of it but I like the jist of it
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Your Friend Tamara 08-Jan-21 09:50 PM
I will sign as well.
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 09:50 PM
@Big Brother (Clement2022) so what do you say, shall we draft a new bill in regards to nuke use?
Avatar Your Friend Tamara I will sign as well.
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cbass 08-Jan-21 09:50 PM
'kay, thanks
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 09:51 PM
are you planning to move around current infastructure projects?
and foreign investment, i mean
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cbass 08-Jan-21 09:51 PM
oh good point, gonna add a caluse
clause*
@Your Friend Tamara @Senator Morshu Ferrok adjusting the bill just a teensy bit to account for one thing we missed
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Your Friend Tamara 08-Jan-21 09:52 PM
unsigning smh
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Sen. James Durham 08-Jan-21 09:52 PM
unsigning smh
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 08-Jan-21 09:52 PM
Ah, I remember my old infrastructure bill that everyone liked but nobody wanted to vote for
Then I resubmitted it and it passed
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Your Friend Tamara 08-Jan-21 09:53 PM
it doesn't say, "specifically with regard to the repair of Patrium’s infrastructure," enough times.
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 08-Jan-21 09:53 PM
Make it an acronym
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cbass 08-Jan-21 09:53 PM
and then you get your approval pegged
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 08-Jan-21 09:53 PM
We don't have nukes yet
Avatar Big Brother (Clement2022) We don't have nukes yet
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 09:53 PM
nigga but we will
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Your Friend Tamara 08-Jan-21 09:53 PM
🥵
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 09:53 PM
thats all that matters
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 08-Jan-21 09:53 PM
Despite it helping the people immensely, and the people loving it, my approval went down
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 09:53 PM
better sooner than later
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 09:53 PM
we're workign on it
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 08-Jan-21 09:53 PM
why make a bill for nuke use
Also
Why cut infrastructure spending
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 09:53 PM
can we just tell the world we alreayd have them?
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 08-Jan-21 09:53 PM
lmao
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cbass 08-Jan-21 09:53 PM
anywho, the clause i added is section 2.1.2.2 @Your Friend Tamara @Senator Morshu Ferrok
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Your Friend Tamara 08-Jan-21 09:53 PM
North Korea moment.
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 08-Jan-21 09:54 PM
and get sanctioned? lol
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 09:54 PM
nope, we drop one in the ocean and tell no one
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 08-Jan-21 09:54 PM
Let’s put it to vote
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 09:54 PM
BBC Future lays out the challenge and peril of a country embarking on a programme to build a nuclear bomb.
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 08-Jan-21 09:54 PM
after we get them first
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 09:54 PM
trol
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 09:54 PM
let em see whats up
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cbass 08-Jan-21 09:54 PM
yeah. i was against that decision
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Your Friend Tamara 08-Jan-21 09:54 PM
I didn't read the bill, I just thought it looked cool
Avatar Big Brother (Clement2022) and get sanctioned? lol
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 09:54 PM
no, stop getting fucked iwth
be great
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 08-Jan-21 09:54 PM
Since it’s a senate declaration and not a bill can we just put it to vote?
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Your Friend Tamara 08-Jan-21 09:54 PM
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 08-Jan-21 09:54 PM
@character-confusion
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 09:54 PM
@Big Brother (Clement2022) we get the bunch of nukes, and we start writing the Peace Walker Bill
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 09:54 PM
what
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 09:54 PM
thats the name
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 08-Jan-21 09:55 PM
@character-confusion
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 09:55 PM
since hwat is
a what
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 08-Jan-21 09:55 PM
@character-confusion
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 09:55 PM
lol
step 10 of bbc's nuclear plan
Step 10: Enjoy the sanctions of your labour
Avatar Senator Morshu Ferrok @character-confusion
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 09:56 PM
oh kek
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 09:56 PM
Step 11: Nuke countries that sanction you
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 09:56 PM
chad
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 09:56 PM
Profit
very well, I shall now fuck off to bed
@Big Brother (Clement2022) think about my plan will ya
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 09:56 PM
alright maybe uh
maybe some countries might get pissed at you guys for your nuclear program
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cbass 08-Jan-21 09:57 PM
usa
china
russia
india likely
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 09:57 PM
that's the intention, yes
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 08-Jan-21 09:57 PM
What if we build nukes then sell them
entj
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 09:57 PM
oh boy
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cbass 08-Jan-21 09:57 PM
that'll piss them off more LETSFUCKINGGOOO
let's do it
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 09:57 PM
hmmmmmmm
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 09:57 PM
nuclear Al Qaida time
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 09:57 PM
anyone wanna rp?
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cbass 08-Jan-21 09:57 PM
sure
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 09:57 PM
who with?
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cbass 08-Jan-21 09:57 PM
say
is your character a tankie too?
Avatar character-confusion anyone wanna rp?
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 08-Jan-21 09:58 PM
It’s 1am and I work tomorrow
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 09:58 PM
which?
character?
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cbass 08-Jan-21 09:58 PM
your senator, rather
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 09:58 PM
is an ex tankie
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cbass 08-Jan-21 09:58 PM
icky
Avatar Senator Morshu Ferrok It’s 1am and I work tomorrow
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 09:58 PM
funwaa
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cbass 08-Jan-21 09:58 PM
idk man
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Sen. James Durham 08-Jan-21 09:58 PM
What if we use the nuke program
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cbass 08-Jan-21 09:58 PM
i should probably go to bed too ngl
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 09:58 PM
its 7am and I am dying
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Sen. James Durham 08-Jan-21 09:58 PM
as a piece of
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 08-Jan-21 09:58 PM
I will be getting into bed now, and I will sleep in 3-7 hours
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 09:58 PM
sure lets rp
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Sen. James Durham 08-Jan-21 09:58 PM
negotiation
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cbass 08-Jan-21 09:58 PM
have you been up all night??
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 09:58 PM
pick a country
any country
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 09:58 PM
spain
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Sen. James Durham 08-Jan-21 09:58 PM
where tf you live
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 09:58 PM
he does that yes
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cbass 08-Jan-21 09:58 PM
storm you're one dumb mf
Avatar character-confusion any country
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 08-Jan-21 09:58 PM
Germany
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 09:58 PM
no
one of our ally countries
from the uh
foriegn event
Avatar character-confusion any country
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 08-Jan-21 09:59 PM
Sweden
Avatar character-confusion one of our ally countries
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 09:59 PM
mozambique
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 09:59 PM
gh
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cbass 08-Jan-21 09:59 PM
we're allied with people?
Avatar character-confusion one of our ally countries
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 08-Jan-21 09:59 PM
Russia
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cbass 08-Jan-21 09:59 PM
news to me
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 09:59 PM
russia works i suppose
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Sen. James Durham 08-Jan-21 09:59 PM
America
troll
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StormTigrex 08-Jan-21 09:59 PM
Mauritius
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cbass 08-Jan-21 09:59 PM
we should join nato
Avatar Senator Morshu Ferrok Russia
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 09:59 PM
technically US UK and China
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cbass 08-Jan-21 09:59 PM
and csto
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Sen. James Durham 08-Jan-21 09:59 PM
Actually they probably would only talk to me
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cbass 08-Jan-21 09:59 PM
and asean
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Sen. James Durham 08-Jan-21 09:59 PM
lmao
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 09:59 PM
though china is iffy wiht us atm
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cbass 08-Jan-21 09:59 PM
all at once
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 08-Jan-21 09:59 PM
Also mfs complain me for lowering taxes when they continue to cut taxes
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Sen. James Durham 08-Jan-21 09:59 PM
Fuck china
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cbass 08-Jan-21 09:59 PM
so they don't have time to stop us because we're already in all of them
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Sen. James Durham 08-Jan-21 09:59 PM
I'm making a speech
Avatar character-confusion technically US UK and China
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 09:59 PM
meant this to @cbass
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 08-Jan-21 09:59 PM
Can we make the IOFTA?
Avatar character-confusion meant this to @cbass
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cbass 08-Jan-21 09:59 PM
wha
when?
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 10:00 PM
you asked "we have allies"?
those are our main allies atm
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cbass 08-Jan-21 10:00 PM
no no
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 10:00 PM
oh?
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cbass 08-Jan-21 10:00 PM
when did we get allies
not when did i ask
lol
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 10:00 PM
during the foriegn event
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cbass 08-Jan-21 10:00 PM
oh
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 10:00 PM
we made trade deals with uk and china
hefty ones
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cbass 08-Jan-21 10:00 PM
oh
tbf that doesn't make them allies
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 10:00 PM
and during the war the US helped us a bunch
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cbass 08-Jan-21 10:00 PM
sorta
but
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 08-Jan-21 10:00 PM
Indian Ocean Fantastic Trade Agreement
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cbass 08-Jan-21 10:00 PM
not explicity
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 10:00 PM
not allies
but close enough to be sketched if you start making nukes
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cbass 08-Jan-21 10:00 PM
friends?
i dunno
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 10:00 PM
what was the russian ambassador's name?
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 08-Jan-21 10:01 PM
Vladimir Lenin
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cbass 08-Jan-21 10:01 PM
ivanovich
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 10:01 PM
gh
thank you
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cbass 08-Jan-21 10:01 PM
i forget the first name
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 08-Jan-21 10:01 PM
You’re welcome
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 10:01 PM
that's fine
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cbass 08-Jan-21 10:01 PM
you could check the audit log if you care
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character-confusion 08-Jan-21 10:01 PM
#roleplay-general
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cbass 08-Jan-21 10:01 PM
just search me and nickname
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 08-Jan-21 10:01 PM
Vyacheslav Molotov is the man you’re thinking of
Wait no he was foreign minister
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Sen. Empharius 08-Jan-21 10:05 PM
Their the best place to get support from
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 08-Jan-21 10:05 PM
Vote yes on my motion
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Sen. James Durham 08-Jan-21 10:06 PM
Nah the US loves me
Only senator that hasn't fucked them over
and I have backed them several times
They even gave me SF
for the civil waaaaaaaaaagh
Avatar Sen. James Durham Nah the US loves me
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Sen. Empharius 08-Jan-21 10:07 PM
Yeah but fuck them
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cbass 08-Jan-21 10:07 PM
id imagine the russians would like hugo cause she's fucking insane at this point
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Sen. James Durham 08-Jan-21 10:08 PM
They also like old bali
but
he gone
☹
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cbass 08-Jan-21 10:11 PM
who?
oh
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Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP 09-Jan-21 09:33 AM
“Fuck you”
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 09-Jan-21 09:54 AM
Bruh
Fuck u
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Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP 09-Jan-21 10:10 AM
Fuck you
Wait
Shit
Oh wait it’s not in effect (edited)
Fuck you
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parm 09-Jan-21 02:37 PM
An online LaTeX editor that's easy to use. No installation, real-time collaboration, version control, hundreds of LaTeX templates, and more.
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cbass 09-Jan-21 07:16 PM
@character-confusion i didn't 😒
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cbass 09-Jan-21 10:44 PM
Healing Our Nation Bill, 2021 Introduced by Sen. Durham (NCP) and Sen. Hugo (TECHNO) Whereas our nation is in a sorry state; Whereas the welfare of our nation is a necessity in a 21st-century society; Whereas selfless defense of our noble homeland is a service that should be greatly rewarded;...
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Deleted User 09-Jan-21 11:03 PM
//based bill but I have to oppose for ic reasons
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cbass 10-Jan-21 05:59 AM
fuck
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parm 10-Jan-21 07:42 AM
voting afgainst karlos's bill we shouldnt be cucking to foreign nations for shit
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cbass 10-Jan-21 11:40 AM
^
well
not to foreign nations that don't matter
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parm 10-Jan-21 11:42 AM
the bill cucks us to fucking....mozambique
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cbass 10-Jan-21 11:43 AM
exactly
why not cuck to all of the global powers all at the same time?
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parm 10-Jan-21 11:44 AM
chad
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Sen. James Durham 10-Jan-21 11:49 AM
Looking giving away half our arms to fucking Mozambique is a little out there.
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parm 10-Jan-21 11:51 AM
i woulda been good with any other bill than karlos's tbh
troll
bruh moment
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Sen. James Durham 10-Jan-21 12:09 PM
gh
"light tanks"
gh
gh
People need to talk to me before doing shit with the military
I promise it'll work out better if you do that
😄
Avatar Sen. James Durham "light tanks"
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parm 10-Jan-21 12:13 PM
tank balloon entj
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Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP 10-Jan-21 12:55 PM
Hello people of the senate, what do you think about the individual bill to try save the nation? https://discord.com/channels/705637850967834665/705638375901626410/796296505287245854
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parm 10-Jan-21 12:56 PM
i've said what i think about it
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Dieselkeough 10-Jan-21 12:57 PM
@Sen. James Durham had some complaints on it as well.
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Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP 10-Jan-21 12:58 PM
Ok, but I never saw it... link?
Avatar Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP Ok, but I never saw it... link?
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parm 10-Jan-21 12:58 PM
right in front of you buckarooo
mozambique kek
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Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP 10-Jan-21 12:59 PM
Uhh
I’ll deal with this shit later
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parm 10-Jan-21 01:01 PM
as for my complaints: 1) poorly written 2) giving half our arms to mozambique kek 3) doesnt actually solve much
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 01:02 PM
me omw to sign to support my homie in Mozambique:
chad 2
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cbass 10-Jan-21 01:02 PM
bruh_stare
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parm 10-Jan-21 01:03 PM
why is :bruh_stare: one of my favorite emotes lmao
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 01:04 PM
slep WHY IS THIS GOD FORSAKEN EMOJI BACK?
slep
DEATH
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 01:04 PM
@Dieselkeough EXPLAIN!
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 01:05 PM
kinda wholesome image
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Sen. James Durham 10-Jan-21 01:05 PM
gh
trying to get back into the cs pro scene was one of the worst decision i've made this past week
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parm 10-Jan-21 01:05 PM
brony troll
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parm 10-Jan-21 01:05 PM
CSGO is still alive/
i thought it was dead af
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 01:06 PM
CSGO players are like...idfk, but they aren't fun...
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Sen. James Durham 10-Jan-21 01:07 PM
It's more popular than ever
i think
it was in middle of 2020
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parm 10-Jan-21 01:09 PM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Avatar Sen. James Durham it was in middle of 2020
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parm 10-Jan-21 01:09 PM
are you talking about Valorant?
which was just CSGO + overwatch
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Dieselkeough 10-Jan-21 01:10 PM
slep
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Sen. James Durham 10-Jan-21 01:30 PM
Nah
CSGO is was peaking in middle of 2020 (edited)
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 01:43 PM
Patrian Right to Arms Bill 2022 Written by Senator Bahman Dushar Section 1: Summary The right of the citizens of Patrium to bear arms is essential to this nation and its citizens.This bill shall expand upon these freedoms with the hope of improving this nation’s freedoms. Definitions: Small ar...
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 01:51 PM
Ping me with anysuggestions.
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Sen. James Durham 10-Jan-21 01:54 PM
ban anybody convicted of murder from having one pls
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Jan-21 01:54 PM
@Your Friend Tamara add murderer restriction, expand magazine limit to 350, remove chain restriction, remove the gun restriction for artillery, remove turret restriction
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 01:55 PM
untroll
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Sen. James Durham 10-Jan-21 01:55 PM
You shoudl be legally allowed an anti-tank gun
btw
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Jan-21 01:55 PM
Yes
You can in the US
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Sen. James Durham 10-Jan-21 01:55 PM
> Chain-fed weapons shall be illegal.
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 01:55 PM
You are, just not an anti-tank RPG.
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Sen. James Durham 10-Jan-21 01:55 PM
CRINGE
The people hate us
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 01:55 PM
kk, remove chain fed restriction.
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Sen. James Durham 10-Jan-21 01:56 PM
let's just make it easy for them mkay
>Magazines whose capacity exceeds 50 rounds shall be illegal.
What is this
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Jan-21 01:56 PM
Some people living in mountainous areas own howitzers to cause avalanches so they don’t happen when someone is in the way
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 01:57 PM
Like...no magazines over 50 rounds
Any other suggestions?
Imma put it up for vote now IG.
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Sen. James Durham 10-Jan-21 02:03 PM
btw I this this increases gun control
so
cringe
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 02:03 PM
HOW?
Gah!
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Sen. James Durham 10-Jan-21 02:03 PM
I made it very good
😎
This makes it very cringe
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 02:04 PM
I shall abolish the magazine restrictions.
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Sen. James Durham 10-Jan-21 02:04 PM
Hooray!
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 02:04 PM
But should I abolish the explosive rounds restriction?
@Sen. James Durham
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 10-Jan-21 02:06 PM
What why are we unrestrictinf guns, patrium just got out of a civil war
???????
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 02:06 PM
troll
We do a lil trollin
@Sen. James Durham Should I abolish the explosive rounds restriction?
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 02:08 PM
Which turret restriction?
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Jan-21 02:10 PM
this
Avatar Big Brother (Clement2022) this
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 02:11 PM
Don't care.
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Jan-21 02:11 PM
Veto'd
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 02:12 PM
Wh-
What?
Only Taylor can veto bills.
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Sen. James Durham 10-Jan-21 02:21 PM
wait
you
restricted those?
gh
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 02:21 PM
Okay, I remove
troll
@Sen. James Durham sign.
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Kingston 10-Jan-21 02:31 PM
That bill bans rocket bullets
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 02:32 PM
No?
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Kingston 10-Jan-21 02:33 PM
It does
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 02:33 PM
HOW?
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Kingston 10-Jan-21 02:34 PM
They are a type of gun with no recoil
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 02:34 PM
HOW?
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Kingston 10-Jan-21 02:34 PM
You took out the self propelled after discharge
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Dieselkeough 10-Jan-21 02:35 PM
^
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 02:35 PM
this?
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Dieselkeough 10-Jan-21 02:35 PM
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 02:35 PM
Yeah, I took that part out.
@Dieselkeough That's okay, yes?
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Dieselkeough 10-Jan-21 02:38 PM
Its your bill
Im just pointing stuff out.
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 02:38 PM
ohokay
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 03:25 PM
@BrosPros added your suggestions.
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 03:37 PM
@BrosPros Since this bill legalises a shit ton of weapons and abolishes the weapons tax, you wanna sign?
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parm 10-Jan-21 04:13 PM
damn
also
anywone want to sign my peition to bring back supreme senator?
🥺
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 04:14 PM
ye. add my signature
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parm 10-Jan-21 04:14 PM
i already did
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 04:14 PM
add it again
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parm 10-Jan-21 04:15 PM
chad
cryingwojak NOOO U CANT SIGN TWICE chad why not?
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 10-Jan-21 04:16 PM
Sign me up
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parm 10-Jan-21 04:17 PM
alreadt did
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Sen. Empharius 10-Jan-21 04:29 PM
you know what, add mine
elections are fun
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parm 10-Jan-21 04:30 PM
pog
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Dieselkeough 10-Jan-21 04:45 PM
Veto time
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 06:31 PM
@Big Brother (Clement2022) can I interest your party in my latest bill?
@Kermit the C_L_A_M You would prob be open to signing my bill.
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 10-Jan-21 06:32 PM
what is it
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parm 10-Jan-21 06:33 PM
way tooo vague
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Deleted User 10-Jan-21 06:33 PM
The Solarist Recognition Act, 2022 _ Whereas the Solarist religion and movement has a membership totaling around one million Patrians; Whereas the Relevist religion has taken a stronghold among faithful Patrians; Be the following enacted by the Senate...
This bill has the signatures necessary
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parm 10-Jan-21 06:33 PM
"rejection of reality in thinking or writing"
"worship of inanimate object
"separation of members of group from society"
like all of these could apply to mainstream religions
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 06:34 PM
I don't fucking care, just sign this so we can get rid of the solarists!
boohooo
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Deleted User 10-Jan-21 06:34 PM
My bill is up for voting!
cope
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parm 10-Jan-21 06:34 PM
i agree with §4 but this is just too big of a freedom of religion violation
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 06:35 PM
@parm I legit don't care, the solarists are driving me insane.
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parm 10-Jan-21 06:36 PM
cope
im not signing
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Jan-21 06:37 PM
Cope and seethe
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 06:37 PM
THE FUCKING SOLARISTS ARE LEGIT FUCKING RUINING THIS SERVER!
FUCKING CUNTS!
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Kingston 10-Jan-21 06:37 PM
Bahman hates solarists confirmed
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Jan-21 06:37 PM
Imagine not having your religion recognizedcryingsunglasses
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Deleted User 10-Jan-21 06:37 PM
We aren’t tho
Cope
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Kingston 10-Jan-21 06:38 PM
Not very egalitarian
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parm 10-Jan-21 06:38 PM
Sad!
im fine w the solarists as long as they dont get too shitpost-y
then it becomes annoying
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 06:38 PM
THEY ARE ALREADY ANNOYING!
agony
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parm 10-Jan-21 06:38 PM
but as of rn im fine
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Jan-21 06:38 PM
Nobody cares about Isekaism
Avatar Your Friend Tamara THEY ARE ALREADY ANNOYING!
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parm 10-Jan-21 06:38 PM
i disagree
Avatar Senator Morshu Ferrok Nobody cares about Isekaism
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parm 10-Jan-21 06:38 PM
we have too many OC cults smh
Avatar Your Friend Tamara THEY ARE ALREADY ANNOYING!
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Kingston 10-Jan-21 06:39 PM
Be careful or potatoes are coming your way
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 06:39 PM
Die.
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Jan-21 06:39 PM
Isekaism isn’t oc though, it’s actually somewhat popular in Japan and to an extent Korea
Today, not 2000 years ago
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parm 10-Jan-21 06:39 PM
it isn't OC?
oh
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 06:39 PM
Me omw to block all the solarists:
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parm 10-Jan-21 06:39 PM
but how many japanese and koreans live in patrium?
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Jan-21 06:40 PM
Uh
🤔
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Deleted User 10-Jan-21 06:40 PM
Ruining the game was not the intention of Solarism
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Kingston 10-Jan-21 06:40 PM
Bahman threatened another senators life
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Deleted User 10-Jan-21 06:40 PM
Making a communist upset by it is an added benefit
troll 1
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parm 10-Jan-21 06:40 PM
i could see hinduism having a decently large following due to india being nearby
like a few milllion adherents at most for hinduism
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Jan-21 06:41 PM
Isekaism takes parts from Shintoism which is quite prevalent in Japan today, and it is also quite similar to some aspects of Hinduism and Buddhism
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 06:41 PM
Fucking solarists dude...
It is horrible...
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Jan-21 06:41 PM
Meanwhile
Solarism is just a thing (edited)
No modern day practitioners
Not really similar to any other modern day religions
Just there
Avatar Your Friend Tamara Fucking solarists dude...
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Kingston 10-Jan-21 06:42 PM
May sol forgive you
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Deleted User 10-Jan-21 06:43 PM
Why is it horrible though
I only attacked you cause you started it
entj
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 06:43 PM
WHY IS NO ONE VOTING NO!
agony
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Kingston 10-Jan-21 06:44 PM
Solarism is a religion too
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 06:44 PM
Also, I blocked all the solarists, so like, stop tryna message me.
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Kingston 10-Jan-21 06:44 PM
The correct one at that (edited)
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Sen. Empharius 10-Jan-21 06:44 PM
It is a religion
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Deleted User 10-Jan-21 06:55 PM
I don’t message you my guy
Blocking me makes you not see messages here too
Someone tell Tamara that
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parm 10-Jan-21 06:56 PM
troll
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cbass 10-Jan-21 07:34 PM
no you just don't like them and are being melodramatic
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cbass 10-Jan-21 07:34 PM
i'm about to write a freedom of religion bill 😎
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 07:34 PM
Sorry, had to have a mental breakdown.
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cbass 10-Jan-21 07:35 PM
i can add yours to the bill i'm writing if you want
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Jan-21 07:36 PM
LETSFUCKINGGOOOOOOO
Avatar Senator Morshu Ferrok LETSFUCKINGGOOOOOOO
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cbass 10-Jan-21 07:36 PM
'kay bet
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Jan-21 07:36 PM
Bet what
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 07:36 PM
@Senator Morshu Ferrok sign my arms bill troll
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Jan-21 07:37 PM
Too restrictive
Avatar Senator Morshu Ferrok Too restrictive
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 07:37 PM
It legalizes tanks for civilian use...
mfw
@Senator Morshu Ferrok I removed many of the restrictions...
To get the libertarians on board.
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Jan-21 07:38 PM
Hmm
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 07:39 PM
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Jan-21 07:40 PM
3-1.1 is a bit concerning
What exactly does that pertain to
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 07:41 PM
Military vehicles with tank treads
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Jan-21 07:42 PM
3-1.1
Not 4-1.1
Avatar Senator Morshu Ferrok 3-1.1
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 07:43 PM
ohhhhhhhhhh, you can't use chemical weapons.
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Jan-21 07:44 PM
Just write “chemical weapons of any sort are expressway prohibited (I.e. chlorine gas, sarin gas, white phosphorus, napalm)”
Much less roundabout way of putting it
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 07:44 PM
Then I'd have to ping the dudes who signed....
I will do it ig.
@Sen. Cassandra Balistic @Sen. Empharius @Daddy Lenin @KilburnTowers @BrosPros @Sebastian Matthews changed the arms bill 3-1.1 to the following.
bait 1
sus 1
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Jan-21 07:50 PM
It would prohibit some but not all types of flame throwers
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Kingston 10-Jan-21 07:50 PM
Don’t ban the agricultural flamethrowers
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Jan-21 07:51 PM
It's okay to own legal chemical weapons such as napalm, so long as you don't fire them from a weapon
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 07:51 PM
no
Chemical weapons are horrible.
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Kingston 10-Jan-21 07:52 PM
Napalm is just thickened fuel
Cardboard + gasoline
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Daddy Lenin 10-Jan-21 07:53 PM
😳
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Jan-21 07:53 PM
Napalm can be made at home by adding soap to gasoline and distilling it
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Kingston 10-Jan-21 07:53 PM
I guess that would provide a more viscous product
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Jan-21 07:53 PM
More napalm-y
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Kingston 10-Jan-21 07:54 PM
Like flame thrower grade?
The cardboard stuff is quick and easy
Perfect for bombs
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Jan-21 07:54 PM
Like dropped from a fighter jet grade
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cbass 10-Jan-21 08:02 PM
styrofoam also works, if i remember right
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Jan-21 08:04 PM
Styrofoam makes it really runny
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Your Friend Tamara 10-Jan-21 08:05 PM
runny=more spread
troll
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 10-Jan-21 11:54 PM
You never asked for my signature 😔
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cbass 11-Jan-21 08:30 AM
@Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) @parm sign it.
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parm 11-Jan-21 08:30 AM
no.
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cbass 11-Jan-21 08:30 AM
why
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parm 11-Jan-21 08:31 AM
undisclosable reasons
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cbass 11-Jan-21 08:31 AM
cring
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 11-Jan-21 08:31 AM
I signed
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cbass 11-Jan-21 08:31 AM
haha nice
@Sen. James Durham sign, plug to the NCP
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 11-Jan-21 08:32 AM
I think this is the most legitimate articles of misconduct in a while
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cbass 11-Jan-21 08:32 AM
😎
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 11-Jan-21 08:32 AM
Most are pure memes
For haha funny
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cbass 11-Jan-21 08:32 AM
i think the one against you was pretty fun
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Sen. James Durham 11-Jan-21 08:32 AM
I got 3 sigs from NCP members already
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cbass 11-Jan-21 08:32 AM
for the tamara thing?
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parm 11-Jan-21 08:32 AM
entj
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cbass 11-Jan-21 08:32 AM
goddamn
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parm 11-Jan-21 08:32 AM
is
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Sen. James Durham 11-Jan-21 08:32 AM
Wait no for the civil war thing
mbmb
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cbass 11-Jan-21 08:32 AM
ohh
nah nah
I senator Victoria Hugo file Articles of Misconduct Against Senator Ultrackius President Marshall Taylor, Senator Bahman Dushar has been a curse upon the Senate of Patrium for the duration of their term. They are attempting to pass a bill that would allow the people of Patrium to own an...
this
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parm 11-Jan-21 08:33 AM
is tamara the only player wh got misconducted twice
entj
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cbass 11-Jan-21 08:33 AM
yes
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parm 11-Jan-21 08:33 AM
yo wtf based
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cbass 11-Jan-21 08:33 AM
i linked the bill in the PPL server
@Sen. James Durham sign articles of misconduct boohooo
@Deleted User sign misconduct against tamara
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Sen. Empharius 11-Jan-21 08:35 AM
@cbass paramilitaries are already legal
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cbass 11-Jan-21 08:35 AM
yes you said that
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Sen. Empharius 11-Jan-21 08:35 AM
I had removing the ban be added to the peacedeal
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cbass 11-Jan-21 08:35 AM
but there's a clause for it in the bill
which i already said
idk why you're saying this again
@Kingston sign bill to kill commie
@Sen. Hilarius Niger sign bill to kill commie
@Sen. Julian Titus (Chiang) sign bill to kill commie
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 11-Jan-21 08:38 AM
Kill commie kill commie kill commie (edited)
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cbass 11-Jan-21 08:38 AM
kill commie kill commie kill commie (edited)
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 08:38 AM
What is the point of doing this?
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cbass 11-Jan-21 08:38 AM
kill commie
duh
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 08:38 AM
mfw
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 11-Jan-21 08:38 AM
Kill commie kill commie kill commie
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cbass 11-Jan-21 08:39 AM
kill commie kill commie kill commie
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 08:39 AM
This is never going to pass...
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cbass 11-Jan-21 08:39 AM
you're the commie we're killing
of course you'd say that
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 08:40 AM
You seriously think the president is not going to veto this?
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cbass 11-Jan-21 08:40 AM
why would he?
you're a threat to national security
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 08:41 AM
HOW?
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cbass 11-Jan-21 08:41 AM
arms factory, paramilitary legalization, civillian fucking tanks
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parm 11-Jan-21 08:41 AM
🍿
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cbass 11-Jan-21 08:41 AM
hi mega
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Deleted User 11-Jan-21 08:41 AM
is this channel ooc or ic
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parm 11-Jan-21 08:41 AM
ehhh arms factoriy is the only thing i can see being a problem
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Deleted User 11-Jan-21 08:41 AM
i never know
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parm 11-Jan-21 08:41 AM
ooc ig
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cbass 11-Jan-21 08:41 AM
ooc
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parm 11-Jan-21 08:41 AM
yea it's ooc, like it's always been
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cbass 11-Jan-21 08:41 AM
^
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parm 11-Jan-21 08:42 AM
yea but the only thing you can really get tamara on is arms factory
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 08:42 AM
This entire senate is shit. There is no path to progress other than armed revolution.
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Deleted User 11-Jan-21 08:43 AM
honestly true
we need some form of mobility
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parm 11-Jan-21 08:43 AM
^
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cbass 11-Jan-21 08:43 AM
bring back SS
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parm 11-Jan-21 08:43 AM
yasss
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 08:43 AM
Even if we get a communist majority, the president will do nothing other than represent the status quo. The only way is through revolution, but from what I saw, the mods will be VERY biased against rebels.
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parm 11-Jan-21 08:43 AM
it's unanimous wrt players
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parm 11-Jan-21 08:44 AM
lmao the civil war was decently biased in rebel favor
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Deleted User 11-Jan-21 08:44 AM
^
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 08:44 AM
How?
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cbass 11-Jan-21 08:44 AM
^
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 08:45 AM
HOW?
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cbass 11-Jan-21 08:45 AM
mods expected us to win
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parm 11-Jan-21 08:45 AM
gh
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cbass 11-Jan-21 08:45 AM
us being rebels
lol
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Arksiane 11-Jan-21 08:45 AM
no, im going to be biased to someone whos pinged me 18 times
entj 2
actually im mad about this again, so muting you
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cbass 11-Jan-21 08:45 AM
entj
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parm 11-Jan-21 08:45 AM
noooo
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Arksiane 11-Jan-21 08:45 AM
-mute @Your Friend Tamara 10m
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parm 11-Jan-21 08:45 AM
boohooo
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YAGPDB.xyz BOT 11-Jan-21 08:45 AM
🔇 Muted Your Friend Tamara (not edgy)#5922 for 10 minutes
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parm 11-Jan-21 08:45 AM
Sad!
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 11-Jan-21 08:45 AM
lol
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cbass 11-Jan-21 08:45 AM
based ark
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Deleted User 11-Jan-21 08:46 AM
mods also expected everyone to believe me about taylor back in december lmao
i think the mods over estimate our collective IQ
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cbass 11-Jan-21 08:46 AM
consistently, yeah
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parm 11-Jan-21 08:46 AM
yes
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cbass 11-Jan-21 08:47 AM
if we had some basic degree of intelligence, we'd have passed mine and jumble's bill days ago
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parm 11-Jan-21 08:47 AM
cope
get sigs from the NCP
and ASS
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cbass 11-Jan-21 08:47 AM
already have 3 from NCP not counting jumble
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Deleted User 11-Jan-21 08:47 AM
if we had basic intelligence taylor wouldnt be president
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cbass 11-Jan-21 08:48 AM
and ASS won't sign it cause there's a section that gives china a tax reduced area
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cbass 11-Jan-21 08:48 AM
election is supposed to be soon i think
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Deleted User 11-Jan-21 08:48 AM
im anti foreign involvement
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cbass 11-Jan-21 08:48 AM
yeah i am too
but
needs to be done
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Deleted User 11-Jan-21 08:48 AM
im an extremist
i dont want progress
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cbass 11-Jan-21 08:49 AM
sign bill sign bill (edited)
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Kingston 11-Jan-21 08:55 AM
I love kill commie
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 08:55 AM
Why the fuck do people care so much about being pinged?
Like, wtf....
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Sen. James Durham 11-Jan-21 08:57 AM
accelerationism
Just think
Proxy wars to your heart's content
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 08:58 AM
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Kingston 11-Jan-21 08:58 AM
The anti military radio clause is stupid
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Deleted User 11-Jan-21 08:59 AM
no, i want war on my terms
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Sen. James Durham 11-Jan-21 08:59 AM
awww
Don't be a buzzkill
hmmm
@Big Brother (Clement2022) Would you mind signing this bill?
Stability and Jobs Act for Our Nation Bill, 2022 Introduced by Sen. Durham (NCP) and Sen. Hugo (TECHNO) Whereas our nation is in a sorry state; Whereas the welfare of our nation is a necessity in a 21st-century society; Whereas the rebuilding of our noble homeland is a service that is greatly...
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 09:05 AM
how
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parm 11-Jan-21 09:05 AM
you changed the name?
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 09:05 AM
Yes.
It is legit the same shit bill with a new name...
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parm 11-Jan-21 09:05 AM
it's a good bill
me gusta
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Kingston 11-Jan-21 09:06 AM
Define a military radio
And how does it differ from other radios
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 09:06 AM
It is the fucking radio the military uses, dude...
Gah!
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parm 11-Jan-21 09:06 AM
GH
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Kingston 11-Jan-21 09:07 AM
Some civis in america where listening to soviet space communications in their basements
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parm 11-Jan-21 09:08 AM
There shall be highway connections built into each of these regions.
uhhh im not sure how expensive this will be
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Kingston 11-Jan-21 09:08 AM
The military could be using walkie talkies
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parm 11-Jan-21 09:08 AM
like the hgihway bill thing from a few months ago costed 6B
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Deleted User 11-Jan-21 09:09 AM
i thought the main debate over that was gonna be working conditions and all
when i set it up i didnt even think of nationalization lmao
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parm 11-Jan-21 09:09 AM
chad
we were pretty close to complete nationalization on the tsunami bill
but then negotiations kinda fell apart
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Jan-21 09:23 AM
I'm still against the Infrastructure cut.
I don't get why half the bill is to construct highways and repair ports when you are cutting infrastructure spending.
Especially since the foreign investment zones will have little purpose (imo), this just seems like a farmer welfare bill.
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Sen. James Durham 11-Jan-21 09:25 AM
Wait
We
What
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Jan-21 09:25 AM
Like... You are somehow funding a bill to build infrastructure with an infrastructure cut.
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Sen. James Durham 11-Jan-21 09:25 AM
Farmer welfare where?
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Sen. James Durham 11-Jan-21 09:26 AM
Reorganizing national spending
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Jan-21 09:26 AM
The farmer aid.
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Sen. James Durham 11-Jan-21 09:26 AM
Wait where
That's pog
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Jan-21 09:26 AM
We should invest in major cities first.
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Sen. James Durham 11-Jan-21 09:26 AM
Oh wait you mean basic utilities for people don't you
ah
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Jan-21 09:26 AM
Like
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Sen. James Durham 11-Jan-21 09:26 AM
That's not welfare
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Jan-21 09:27 AM
We are not done with constructing even the public housing.
Focussing on rural constructive will further strain our resources.
For less efficient public services than focussing in areas with high urban density.
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Sen. James Durham 11-Jan-21 09:28 AM
Bro we're spending almost 50 billion on projects
I agree it's important and everything
but
We're literally Weimaring ourselves voluntarily
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parm 11-Jan-21 09:29 AM
YO WTF BASED KEYNES GANG LETSFUCKINGGOOOOOOO
LETSFUCKINGGOOOOOOO
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Sen. James Durham 11-Jan-21 09:30 AM
Yes that's cool and all but we're making in income 70 bil
@Big Brother (Clement2022) What could I cut to fund the project besides military
and infra
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Jan-21 09:31 AM
Let me.see
@Sen. James Durham Cut debt /s
Uhh
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Sen. James Durham 11-Jan-21 09:32 AM
I would say education but then Hugo would seethe
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Jan-21 09:33 AM
I would not be opposed to replacing welfare.
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Sen. James Durham 11-Jan-21 09:33 AM
Same with Medicare
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character-confusion 11-Jan-21 09:33 AM
@cbass kek
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Sen. James Durham 11-Jan-21 09:33 AM
Also education is important
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Jan-21 09:33 AM
Infrastructure is a more efficient welfare imo
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Sen. James Durham 11-Jan-21 09:33 AM
Yeah true
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Jan-21 09:33 AM
Infrastructure can also double as "business grants."
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Sen. James Durham 11-Jan-21 09:34 AM
Yeah but then businesses would seethe harder
Pain.
I suppose we just
Cut Military and repurpose it
Which still has a massive fucking deficit
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Jan-21 09:34 AM
We shouldn't have a balanced budget.
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 09:34 AM
How is a deficit bad?
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Jan-21 09:34 AM
Not even we couldn't.
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 09:34 AM
Like breh...
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Jan-21 09:35 AM
I mean
Avatar Big Brother (Clement2022) We shouldn't have a balanced budget.
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Sen. James Durham 11-Jan-21 09:35 AM
Okay yeah but 80 bil deficit is still bad
Pay Denbts
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Jan-21 09:35 AM
If debt outpaces gdp growth
Yeah it's bad
We can't ignore it.
I'm just saying at the moment
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Sen. James Durham 11-Jan-21 09:35 AM
Okay I fixed the bill for you :D
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Jan-21 09:35 AM
We are not ignoring it but it's not the largest problem right now
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Sen. James Durham 11-Jan-21 09:35 AM
"Cut Air Force Spending by 75%, down to 6 Billion USD from. This would result in a reduction of 18.4 Billion USD in spending. This shall be spread equally across all parts of spending. Layoffs/Dischargements shall be minimized as much as possible. Cut Army Spending by 50%, down to 2.5 Billion USD This would result in a reduction of 2.7 Billion USD in spending. This shall be spread equally across all parts of spending. Layoffs/Dischargements shall be minimized as much as possible. Cut Navy Spending by 50%, down to 2.5 Billion USD This would result in a reduction of 2.7 Billion USD in spending. This shall be spread equally across all parts of spending. Layoffs/Dischargements shall be minimized as much as possible. This bill shall be funded through a third of the cut Air Force spending, or 6 Billion USD. This funding shall be distributed as required."
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 09:35 AM
That face when the party devoted to capitalism has no idea how to work under capitalism....
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Sen. James Durham 11-Jan-21 09:35 AM
Yeah p much
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character-confusion 11-Jan-21 09:36 AM
not true, we revoked that part because you didn't sign the peace deal
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Jan-21 09:36 AM
Gh
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Sen. James Durham 11-Jan-21 09:36 AM
I'm a 16 y/o rightwinger you think I know how economies work?
lmao
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Jan-21 09:36 AM
I'll be honest I would love to use the military to invade a country before we defund it. (edited)
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Sen. James Durham 11-Jan-21 09:36 AM
Yeah but fucking 24 billion to the Air Force is nuts.
We could always sell off assets to African Nations tbh
That could pay denbts
Hmmm
How about I don't defund the army
troll
mfw I cause 1.79 billion in Business Grants to farmers
chad
(not in this bill)
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 09:40 AM
@Sen. James Durham our top ten soviet songs
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Jan-21 09:43 AM
@Sen. James Durham Can I ask you to hold off the bill to voting? I want to finish my hw before I further discuss.
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Sen. James Durham 11-Jan-21 09:46 AM
Okay
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parm 11-Jan-21 09:47 AM
keynesianism chad
Avatar Sen. James Durham Okay
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 09:51 AM
our top ten soviet songs
Avatar Your Friend Tamara our top ten soviet songs
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Deleted User 11-Jan-21 09:54 AM
die
you probably have seen my video
lmao
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 09:55 AM
That is pain...
Like hahahhahahahahahha funny I said our (it means it is communist)
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parm 11-Jan-21 02:03 PM
put my siggies on there @BrosPros
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BrosPros 11-Jan-21 02:04 PM
yeye
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Jan-21 02:06 PM
Me2
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 02:06 PM
@Deleted User our top ten soviet songs
I actually knew about that vid before I knew you existed...'
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Deleted User 11-Jan-21 02:07 PM
based
also imagine thinking that bill will stop me from doing solar-theocracy
cute
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 02:21 PM
@Sen. Empharius why is the bill bad?
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Sen. Empharius 11-Jan-21 02:24 PM
because it means anyone in an authroity position in a religeon cannot hold office, which kicks out Hugo and (technically) me, as well as Billy
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 02:24 PM
Just like...don't be an authority figure in a religion.
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parm 11-Jan-21 02:24 PM
technically you?
@Sen. Empharius what religion do u lead?
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BrosPros 11-Jan-21 02:25 PM
First off, you are given a choice to resign from your position. if you don't then you have the possibility to removed via articles IF they are filed.
plus
it just makes sense
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Sen. Empharius 11-Jan-21 02:27 PM
I'm the high priest of the house of Yuqatil, the relavist god of change, war, and choas (edited)
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Kingston 11-Jan-21 02:27 PM
Why is the libertarian trying to encourage regulation
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parm 11-Jan-21 02:27 PM
i like le bill
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BrosPros 11-Jan-21 02:27 PM
Separation* (edited)
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parm 11-Jan-21 02:27 PM
cool
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 02:27 PM
The libertarian party is trying to stop the church from doing regulation.
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Kingston 11-Jan-21 02:27 PM
Enforced separation = regulation
Not very libertarian of you
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BrosPros 11-Jan-21 02:28 PM
its harder on the gov than it is on the church anyways
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Kingston 11-Jan-21 02:29 PM
You are discriminating against religion
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BrosPros 11-Jan-21 02:29 PM
No I am not.
I am trying to prevent it
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 02:29 PM
Kingston rn: idk man, by killing hitler you would be putting regulation on germany
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Kingston 11-Jan-21 02:30 PM
You are trying to prevent me from expressing my religious beliefs?
Seems like a certain German dictator to me
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BrosPros 11-Jan-21 02:30 PM
The life story of Jason smith Jason Smith : does something that makes it harder for the goverment to oppress idiots : nOt a LibeRtarIAN (edited)
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 02:31 PM
no, we are stopping you from entangling your religion in government...
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Kingston 11-Jan-21 02:31 PM
Our voters wanted it
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 02:31 PM
Most of you converted after being elected...
mfw
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Kingston 11-Jan-21 02:32 PM
None of my voters complained
Some switched*
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 02:32 PM
This is a protestant nation, in what universe would they not complain?
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Kingston 11-Jan-21 02:32 PM
Mine
No complaints received
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 02:33 PM
@character-confusion did he actually get no backlash?
None?
0?
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character-confusion 11-Jan-21 02:33 PM
what?
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Kingston 11-Jan-21 02:33 PM
I got kidnapped and the people got tired of me being socialist
entj 2
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 02:34 PM
You are fucking dumb...
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Jan-21 02:34 PM
what is this conversation
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Kingston 11-Jan-21 02:34 PM
No
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Jan-21 02:34 PM
I'm so confused
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Kingston 11-Jan-21 02:36 PM
Your arms bill banned gas artillery and a certain type of radio
The radios are not even that good
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 02:37 PM
This is just you seething about not being able to shitpost...
gh
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Kingston 11-Jan-21 02:37 PM
I have not yet shitposted
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parm 11-Jan-21 02:37 PM
penis nigga sex
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Sen. James Durham 11-Jan-21 02:37 PM
Okay just not be then
troll 2
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Kingston 11-Jan-21 02:37 PM
I make all true statements
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 02:38 PM
No...No you do not.
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Kingston 11-Jan-21 02:38 PM
Mfw you are driving your own party members away
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 02:38 PM
We have only gained members...
A second mfw.
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Sen. James Durham 11-Jan-21 02:38 PM
mfw tamara is in the right here
also
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Kingston 11-Jan-21 02:39 PM
That religion bill will do you in
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Sen. James Durham 11-Jan-21 02:39 PM
Separation of Church and state is founded in Protestant values (edited)
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BrosPros 11-Jan-21 02:40 PM
You do know that the bill says that you may practice any religion in your private life.
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Kingston 11-Jan-21 02:40 PM
Protestants are not the ones you should be worried about
It’s 7 precent you should worry about
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parm 11-Jan-21 02:40 PM
who is le 7%?
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BrosPros 11-Jan-21 02:40 PM
Look this bill is more geared against revalism than anything
since its currently recognized
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parm 11-Jan-21 02:40 PM
🤔
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 02:40 PM
It is jews...
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BrosPros 11-Jan-21 02:41 PM
look
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parm 11-Jan-21 02:41 PM
smh only 1% of patrium is jewish
the rest of us are noachides
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Sen. Empharius 11-Jan-21 02:44 PM
I''m fine with the restof the bill I just dont like that one part
it seems dumb and pointless
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Jan-21 02:45 PM
I support not allowing people to run based on political extremism.
Similar to how I support banning of Nazi parties.
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Sen. James Durham 11-Jan-21 02:45 PM
I support all parties
but
ASS is cringe
yes 1
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 02:45 PM
it is legit no...
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Sen. James Durham 11-Jan-21 02:45 PM
and I will not be used by them
Therefore I support this bill
because it hurts them
and other cults
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Deleted User 11-Jan-21 02:47 PM
puts Durham on the list
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Sen. James Durham 11-Jan-21 02:49 PM
chad
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Deleted User 11-Jan-21 02:52 PM
Wait according to the bill if you’re even a pastor you can’t be a senator
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Sen. James Durham 11-Jan-21 02:54 PM
wait
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character-confusion 11-Jan-21 02:55 PM
he added that yes
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Sen. James Durham 11-Jan-21 02:55 PM
that's gay
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character-confusion 11-Jan-21 02:56 PM
hm i will say mods have said before that we can't ban religion from party platforms for ooc reasons but i suppose this is okay
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Deleted User 11-Jan-21 02:57 PM
That’s dumb
The pastor part
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 02:57 PM
Solarism is dumb...
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Jan-21 02:57 PM
I mean
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Deleted User 11-Jan-21 02:57 PM
Ok sure but also that clause effects a lot of different groups
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Jan-21 02:58 PM
If you're a religious leader I don't think you have time to be a Senator.
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Deleted User 11-Jan-21 02:58 PM
You can be a pastor and elected with separation of church and state
Not a major religious leader
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Kingston 11-Jan-21 02:58 PM
A loss of good boy points is expected
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Sen. James Durham 11-Jan-21 02:58 PM
this.
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Deleted User 11-Jan-21 02:58 PM
Rev Warnok in Georgia
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Sen. James Durham 11-Jan-21 02:58 PM
^
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Jan-21 02:58 PM
I don't know what's the word but having multiple roles is bad.
Senators should focus on government administration and that's it.
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Deleted User 11-Jan-21 02:59 PM
It’s not like it’s the pope being elected
It’s a small pastor
Same thing as a community organizer
Also the bill shouldn’t be applied retroactively
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character-confusion 11-Jan-21 03:00 PM
it only says subject to removal
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Jan-21 03:00 PM
It's not like everyone is a Pastor.
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character-confusion 11-Jan-21 03:00 PM
that's not applying retroacticely
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Jan-21 03:00 PM
Uhh
It does mean retroactively
And it should mean retroactively
That's kind of the point
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character-confusion 11-Jan-21 03:00 PM
it means it starts applying now (edited)
to everyone in office
not just future elections
yeah?
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Jan-21 03:01 PM
Uh
Idk what u mean
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character-confusion 11-Jan-21 03:01 PM
nvm
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Kingston 11-Jan-21 03:01 PM
What if my voters want me to be both a bishop and a senator
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 03:02 PM
Your voters will be shot.
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Jan-21 03:02 PM
Would it be better if we banned religious platforms but allowed pastors to be Senators?
I think that's a good compromise.
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Kingston 11-Jan-21 03:02 PM
News time
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character-confusion 11-Jan-21 03:03 PM
we had a policy before of not banning religious party platforms
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Sen. James Durham 11-Jan-21 03:03 PM
use twitter
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Kingston 11-Jan-21 03:03 PM
This is IC yes?
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character-confusion 11-Jan-21 03:03 PM
like ooc
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Sen. James Durham 11-Jan-21 03:03 PM
more fun
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Jan-21 03:03 PM
Cringe
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 03:03 PM
Why the fuck not...
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character-confusion 11-Jan-21 03:03 PM
cause it's exclusionary, etc.
also might be free speech issues
not sure
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 03:03 PM
Religion is shit so idc
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character-confusion 11-Jan-21 03:03 PM
eh it affects people out of game was the reasoning
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Kingston 11-Jan-21 03:03 PM
Is this IC yes or no?
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character-confusion 11-Jan-21 03:04 PM
this channel?
yes
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Jan-21 03:04 PM
//wha
//everything i said previously was ooc
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character-confusion 11-Jan-21 03:04 PM
#rp-rules
it's fine, whatever
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 03:04 PM
//this is ic??? Mfw
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character-confusion 11-Jan-21 03:05 PM
casually ic
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Sen. James Durham 11-Jan-21 03:05 PM
hahaha
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 03:05 PM
"This bill will offer protections from religious extremists in our government."
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Sen. James Durham 11-Jan-21 03:05 PM
Durham's statement on twitter: "Use twitter instead of the news, more fun."
troll
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character-confusion 11-Jan-21 03:06 PM
anyway if there's strong objection to the "don't restrict party platform" rules we can revisit it but that was the previous position (edited)
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Kingston 11-Jan-21 03:06 PM
//MFW the amount of dirt I have
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 03:06 PM
//dude legit stfu. What dirt do you have dumbass? You are legit nothing...
//the only solarist with a brain is @dum idiut
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Kingston 11-Jan-21 03:07 PM
//I am Kingston, Dodger of death
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 03:07 PM
//larp moment
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Kingston 11-Jan-21 03:08 PM
//isn't this a larp?
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Deleted User 11-Jan-21 03:08 PM
dont restrict party platforms
besides the no coming here to only shitpost
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 03:09 PM
//legit please do...
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Deleted User 11-Jan-21 03:09 PM
ban communism in platforms
in exchange ill eliminate solarism
troll 3
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 03:09 PM
//the no after coming here to shitpost:
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Deleted User 11-Jan-21 03:10 PM
this is ooc
also @BrosPros what does this mean? If there are any direct ties to leadership (priest, shaman, deacon, pope) they must immediately resign in a public capacity. (edited)
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Kingston 11-Jan-21 03:10 PM
//it's not
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Jan-21 03:10 PM
//Ooc I'm against banning party platforms
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character-confusion 11-Jan-21 03:10 PM
it's not designated ooc, back when we changed rp rules people said it shouldn't be
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Jan-21 03:11 PM
But in character, it's all game.
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Deleted User 11-Jan-21 03:11 PM
i feel like context matters here
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 03:11 PM
//@character-confusion is this actually ic?
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character-confusion 11-Jan-21 03:11 PM
um
within reason
like
you guys aren't idiots, it's generally ic but don't be dumb about it
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Deleted User 11-Jan-21 03:12 PM
I would like to know what the direct leadership line means
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Kingston 11-Jan-21 03:12 PM
Threatening my voters seems to be ic
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 03:12 PM
//@Kingston I was not saying that in character, remove that post smh
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Kingston 11-Jan-21 03:12 PM
not a good look
I removed it
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Deleted User 11-Jan-21 03:13 PM
The direct leadership line could even apply to banning all Catholic senators
I would like further clarification
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 03:13 PM
"You know what the bill means and make up rather petty excuses..."
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Deleted User 11-Jan-21 03:14 PM
"What does the bill mean you baboon" (edited)
"I wait for Mr. Smith to answer, not you, you cave man"
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 03:14 PM
"The bill prevents leaders of religious institutions from being senators..."
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BrosPros 11-Jan-21 03:15 PM
"essentially."
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Deleted User 11-Jan-21 03:15 PM
"So a small town pastor, if he wants to run for Senate, he cannot?"
"That seems excessive"
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 03:15 PM
"He will have to resign as a pastor."
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BrosPros 11-Jan-21 03:15 PM
"its the separation of the church and state"
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Deleted User 11-Jan-21 03:16 PM
"There are examples of pastors and other clergy holding elected office in secular nations"
"It does not infringe on others rights"
"And it limits the rights of a group of people to elect who they want to elect"
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 03:16 PM
"This bill prevents an individual from gathering too much power by serving in both state and church..."
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Deleted User 11-Jan-21 03:16 PM
"And what does the direct leadership line mean?"
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Your Friend Tamara 11-Jan-21 03:17 PM
"They have direct rather than indirect ties."
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Deleted User 11-Jan-21 03:17 PM
"It appears to have been changed"
"Now it must only be declared"
"That is acceptable"
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character-confusion 11-Jan-21 03:18 PM
"If a school teacher wants to run for senate they must resign as a school teacher, that doesn't mean we're discriminating against school teachers now does it?"
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Deleted User 11-Jan-21 03:18 PM
"No, but does resigning as a pastor mean abandoning all vows taken?"
"The wording is too vague"
"But it has been changed to an acceptable clause"
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character-confusion 11-Jan-21 03:19 PM
"That would seem to be up to the pastor and their religion."
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Deleted User 11-Jan-21 03:19 PM
"I was asking in context to the bill"
"The wording was vague, but the open declaration is acceptable"
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parm 11-Jan-21 03:21 PM
//what if buccio was the pedophile? entj
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Deleted User 11-Jan-21 03:23 PM
//i will trash the run and stab you on the senate floor
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parm 11-Jan-21 03:23 PM
//entj
//anyways, this channel is IC?
//cringe
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 11-Jan-21 03:40 PM
TPO IS LITERALLY BASED ON POLITICAL EXTREMISM
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true 2
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Jan-21 03:41 PM
We are moderate, it's only every other party is anarchist.
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 11-Jan-21 03:41 PM
true
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Deleted User 11-Jan-21 03:44 PM
TPO is the true libertarian socialist party
The FSL wishes it was TPO!
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parm 11-Jan-21 03:44 PM
//:boohoo:
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 11-Jan-21 04:50 PM
(the nature of religion)
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cbass 11-Jan-21 06:14 PM
that's a shitty fucking bill holy shit
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parm 11-Jan-21 07:25 PM
@Deleted User put my siggy on there
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Deleted User 11-Jan-21 07:27 PM
k
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Sen. James Durham 11-Jan-21 07:38 PM
hmm
I think
blind trust
better
troll
"What Is a Blind Trust? A blind trust is a trust established by the owner (or trustor) giving another party (the trustee) full control of the trust. The trustee has full discretion over the assets and investments while being charged with managing the assets. The trustor can terminate the trust, but otherwise exercises no control over the actions taken within the trust and receives no reports from the trustees while the blind trust is in force. Blind trusts are often established in situations when individuals want to avoid conflicts of interest between their employment and investments." (edited)
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Deleted User 11-Jan-21 07:46 PM
@Big Brother (Clement2022) when you react with the pen does that mean you sign it?
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parm 11-Jan-21 07:58 PM
it does for me but idk for ele
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Big Brother (Clement2022) 11-Jan-21 08:02 PM
Yes
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cbass 11-Jan-21 08:06 PM
@Big Brother (Clement2022) sign articles of misconduct
I senator Victoria Hugo file Articles of Misconduct Against Senator Bahman Dushar President Marshall Taylor, Senator Bahman Dushar has been a curse upon the Senate of Patrium for the duration of their term. They are attempting to pass a bill that would allow the people of Patrium to own...
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haha nice
one more signature
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Deleted User 11-Jan-21 08:11 PM
sign my bill
so we can have a field trip
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parm 11-Jan-21 08:13 PM
i signed billy's bill
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character-confusion 12-Jan-21 07:34 PM
@Your Friend Tamara don't talk in #policy-proposals that's what this cahnnel is for
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Deleted User 12-Jan-21 07:34 PM
i implore all senators to sign on to this list
it helps veterans and dissipates the rebel threat
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parm 12-Jan-21 07:35 PM
I do not sign due to this section mainly
i believe the commission's composition ought to be removable in case of corruption
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Deleted User 12-Jan-21 07:35 PM
we should not have rebels on the commission
i could change it to have a clause for commission members voting off other commission members with 2/3rds
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parm 12-Jan-21 07:36 PM
i was talking about the last sentence mainly
but that could work
or a majority senate vote
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Deleted User 12-Jan-21 07:36 PM
should i keep the section about the president and the initial members?
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Sen. James Durham 12-Jan-21 07:36 PM
How about the security council votes on cases of corruption.
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Deleted User 12-Jan-21 07:37 PM
hmmmm
some senators may sit on both
that might have conflict of interest
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parm 12-Jan-21 07:37 PM
yea...
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Your Friend Tamara 12-Jan-21 07:37 PM
//How about you and this bill go fuck yourself.
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Deleted User 12-Jan-21 07:38 PM
//no
this better?
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character-confusion 12-Jan-21 07:39 PM
where are you getting this land from?
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Deleted User 12-Jan-21 07:39 PM
rebels
who own it
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Sen. James Durham 12-Jan-21 07:39 PM
McCarthyism (edited)
of
rebels
kekw
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character-confusion 12-Jan-21 07:39 PM
how are you choosing who to give it to?
also what defines "rebel"?
what are the criteria?
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Deleted User 12-Jan-21 07:40 PM
the defense department makes the list
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parm 12-Jan-21 07:40 PM
The commission will hold trials on anyone brought forth to them through the means of reporting, though they have the option to differ to lower courts if they so choose on a case by case basis.
even if they can refer it to lower courts (which is still on a case-by-case thing), this would be impractical as hell
Avatar character-confusion also what defines "rebel"?
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parm 12-Jan-21 07:40 PM
^
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character-confusion 12-Jan-21 07:40 PM
what "means of reporting"?
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Deleted User 12-Jan-21 07:40 PM
im gonna make it more specific, i made this in 5 minutes
entj
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character-confusion 12-Jan-21 07:41 PM
"trials reguarding the loyalty of citizens" but what makes someone deemd not loyal?
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parm 12-Jan-21 07:41 PM
This is literally McCarthyism entj
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character-confusion 12-Jan-21 07:41 PM
if you leave it up to courts without criteria then it'll just be "committed an illegal action"
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parm 12-Jan-21 07:41 PM
chad
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character-confusion 12-Jan-21 07:41 PM
it's not tho
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Sen. James Durham 12-Jan-21 07:41 PM
It's McCarthyism
But
If I don't sign
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Deleted User 12-Jan-21 07:42 PM
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Sen. James Durham 12-Jan-21 07:42 PM
people slander as non-supporting of veterans
even though I'm the only one who helped them
boohooo
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character-confusion 12-Jan-21 07:42 PM
but
you can put someone in court
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Your Friend Tamara 12-Jan-21 07:42 PM
If you sign I shoot you.
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character-confusion 12-Jan-21 07:42 PM
they won't be found guilty
in a regular court
if they broke no laws
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Deleted User 12-Jan-21 07:42 PM
doesnt the senate have trial abilities?
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Your Friend Tamara 12-Jan-21 07:43 PM
How many is a sizable ammount?
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character-confusion 12-Jan-21 07:43 PM
you can't try everyone in the nation
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Deleted User 12-Jan-21 07:43 PM
they can differ cases
have staffers do it
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character-confusion 12-Jan-21 07:43 PM
what?
staffers don't have trial abilities
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Deleted User 12-Jan-21 07:44 PM
they staffers will recommend which ones get differed then they vote
*the
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character-confusion 12-Jan-21 07:44 PM
what?
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Sen. James Durham 12-Jan-21 07:44 PM
jfc
billy
is
nuts
LMAO
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Deleted User 12-Jan-21 07:44 PM
Yes.
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Sen. James Durham 12-Jan-21 07:44 PM
Too based
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Deleted User 12-Jan-21 07:44 PM
this bill is so epic
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Sen. James Durham 12-Jan-21 07:44 PM
for this world
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Deleted User 12-Jan-21 07:45 PM
ill change it to elected officials with rebel sympathies if you want
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character-confusion 12-Jan-21 07:45 PM
no
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Deleted User 12-Jan-21 07:45 PM
or people with a notable following
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character-confusion 12-Jan-21 07:45 PM
that's not my point
my point is that you are saying people should be tried but not criminalizing anything they're doing
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Your Friend Tamara 12-Jan-21 07:45 PM
@character-confusion would you veto a bill that spend like trillions of dollars to send the entire solarist population to the sun?
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character-confusion 12-Jan-21 07:45 PM
i do not think i'd have to
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Deleted User 12-Jan-21 07:46 PM
ill criminalize stating anything supporting rebellion publicly
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character-confusion 12-Jan-21 07:46 PM
that you can do
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Your Friend Tamara 12-Jan-21 07:46 PM
:soy:
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Sen. James Durham 12-Jan-21 07:46 PM
cringe
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Sen. James Durham 12-Jan-21 07:47 PM
nvm de-signed
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Arksiane 12-Jan-21 07:47 PM
ayo @character-confusion why am i banned
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character-confusion 12-Jan-21 07:47 PM
fedposting
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Sen. James Durham 12-Jan-21 07:47 PM
mfw I'm banned also
boohooo
actually a good thing tbh
Avatar character-confusion fedposting
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Arksiane 12-Jan-21 07:47 PM
>banned for fedposting bro tell the mods to shove dildos up their asses
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Deleted User 12-Jan-21 07:47 PM
why are you not signing it?
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character-confusion 12-Jan-21 07:48 PM
it's for 2 weeks
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Deleted User 12-Jan-21 07:48 PM
i can make the rebellion more specific
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character-confusion 12-Jan-21 07:48 PM
hm i think that would violate our free speech laws
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parm 12-Jan-21 07:48 PM
gh!!!!!!
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Deleted User 12-Jan-21 07:48 PM
i have an idea
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character-confusion 12-Jan-21 07:48 PM
mega you made them smh
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Deleted User 12-Jan-21 07:50 PM
i think this works
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character-confusion 12-Jan-21 07:50 PM
borderline
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 12-Jan-21 07:51 PM
I'd sign it
Avatar character-confusion mega you made them smh
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parm 12-Jan-21 07:51 PM
troll as my old character
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Deleted User 12-Jan-21 07:51 PM
i have decent failsafes in the bill
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 12-Jan-21 07:51 PM
I'd happily be one with the sun
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parm 12-Jan-21 07:51 PM
entj
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character-confusion 12-Jan-21 07:52 PM
oh you said it here
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parm 12-Jan-21 07:52 PM
yea
lol
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Deleted User 12-Jan-21 07:53 PM
i need one more siggie
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 12-Jan-21 07:53 PM
I'll sign again
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Deleted User 12-Jan-21 07:53 PM
i could get my brother to entj
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parm 12-Jan-21 07:53 PM
entj
nepotism entj
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Deleted User 12-Jan-21 07:54 PM
but hes not active and id rather have an active person sign an important bill like this
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 12-Jan-21 07:54 PM
(Send me one)
Avatar Dr. Kris Lawrence (Send me one)
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parm 12-Jan-21 07:54 PM
minor,,,,,,
Avatar Dr. Kris Lawrence (Send me one)
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Arksiane 12-Jan-21 07:54 PM
no, you think the cambodian genocide happened
entj 2
actually, post your address
i will definitely mail a dilso
yep
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 12-Jan-21 07:55 PM
(friend doxx, I posted coords there)
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parm 12-Jan-21 07:55 PM
the only genocide that happened is the genocide of cambodia by vietnamese and us bombings!!!
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parm 12-Jan-21 07:55 PM
and your actual address mfw
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 12-Jan-21 07:59 PM
(you can put it on a map yourself)
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parm 12-Jan-21 08:03 PM
brh
bruh
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cbass 15-Jan-21 07:08 AM
@parm how do you feel about a bill for religious freedom?
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parm 15-Jan-21 07:09 AM
mmmmmmm i like the sound of it
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cbass 15-Jan-21 07:09 AM
great i'll dm you the link
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parm 15-Jan-21 07:09 AM
based kk
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cbass 15-Jan-21 07:09 AM
editor perms cause it's too short rn and i can't come up with anything else to add
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parm 15-Jan-21 07:10 AM
ah
wait ima have to switch to my alt then entj
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cbass 15-Jan-21 07:10 AM
🙄
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 17-Jan-21 11:44 PM
Sign my bill of rights
If you don't you'll be cancelled on Twitter.com
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BrosPros 17-Jan-21 11:47 PM
I did
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cbass 18-Jan-21 06:55 AM
@Senator Morshu Ferrok your bill is pointless
oh nvm you added stuff
yeah i'm gonna have to oppose it anyway
we can't afford to maintain section 2 clauses 1.13 and 1.12
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 18-Jan-21 08:07 AM
What if I remove them
comflushed
Also why do you say we can’t maintain 2-1.13 (edited)
It doesn’t specify what kind of education
Just an
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 18-Jan-21 08:11 AM
I had a kindergarten education
Now can I have a gun?
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 18-Jan-21 08:13 AM
yes
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 18-Jan-21 08:14 AM
Also
-16 year olds can get guns -you are legally allowed to open carry anywhere, including schools What could go wrong?
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 18-Jan-21 08:16 AM
Sounds like we should add cross country skiing-sharpshooting to the sports curriculum
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character-confusion 18-Jan-21 08:17 AM
"um sir this is the infant ward of a hospital could you please not open carry here?" "fuck u!!!!1!!!11 SHOOTgun" (edited)
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cbass 18-Jan-21 08:17 AM
yeah
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 18-Jan-21 08:17 AM
We should add an indefinite mandatory field trip to my basement to the curriculum
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cbass 18-Jan-21 08:17 AM
@Sen. James Durham hey get in here
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 18-Jan-21 08:17 AM
Right to open carry smh
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Sen. James Durham 18-Jan-21 08:17 AM
Okay
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cbass 18-Jan-21 08:17 AM
your bill is too lose
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 18-Jan-21 08:17 AM
So you’re the pedophile!
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cbass 18-Jan-21 08:17 AM
i support it
but there's no age limit
it's the same as tamara's yet somehow worse
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 18-Jan-21 08:17 AM
I knew they were around here somewhere!
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character-confusion 18-Jan-21 08:17 AM
lol
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cbass 18-Jan-21 08:17 AM
cause at least tamara had a limit
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Sen. James Durham 18-Jan-21 08:18 AM
Yes that is unironically good
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 18-Jan-21 08:18 AM
Oh no I forgot this was semi ic
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character-confusion 18-Jan-21 08:18 AM
#doomsday-clock 📉
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cbass 18-Jan-21 08:18 AM
this is ic????
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character-confusion 18-Jan-21 08:18 AM
technically
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 18-Jan-21 08:18 AM
Semi-ic
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 18-Jan-21 08:18 AM
Is it?
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character-confusion 18-Jan-21 08:18 AM
by the #rp-rules it is yes
but you know
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 18-Jan-21 08:19 AM
Sounds like how an Englishman would pronounce “Semitic”
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Sen. James Durham 18-Jan-21 08:19 AM
But its like a good faith line or something
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 18-Jan-21 08:19 AM
We are all schizophrenics in character now
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cbass 18-Jan-21 08:20 AM
oh shit
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 18-Jan-21 08:20 AM
You are all legally required to join TOEPIC
Avatar Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) You are all legally required to join TOEPIC
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 18-Jan-21 08:23 AM
*TECHNO
All parties are different factions of TECHNO
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 18-Jan-21 08:23 AM
Okay, and?
troll
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 18-Jan-21 08:24 AM
troll
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 18-Jan-21 08:25 AM
I'm a faction of TECHNO now, but it doesn't change my beliefs, im still a solarist Totalitarian schizophrenic
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 18-Jan-21 08:27 AM
Ok, and?
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 18-Jan-21 09:21 AM
@Erwin sign my Bill of Rights
Avatar Senator Morshu Ferrok @Erwin sign my Bill of Rights
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Erwin 18-Jan-21 09:22 AM
Where can I find it?
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Erwin 18-Jan-21 09:23 AM
Alright sure
How do I sign it?
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 18-Jan-21 09:23 AM
Just add your Name (Party) at the bottom
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 18-Jan-21 09:24 AM
via suggestion
It's an expansion of civil liberties
Why does nobody want to sign it
It will improve stability
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parm 18-Jan-21 09:50 AM
@Senator Morshu Ferrok im slightly opposed to §2.1.6
The right to reasonable privacy and ownership of private property, unless overridden by order of a court of law
maybe change "private property" to "personal possessions"?
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 18-Jan-21 09:51 AM
Uh
Avatar Senator Morshu Ferrok Uh
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parm 18-Jan-21 09:52 AM
i'll sign if the mention of private property is removed
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 18-Jan-21 09:53 AM
Hm
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character-confusion 18-Jan-21 09:53 AM
mega -- still playing his ooc beliefs
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parm 18-Jan-21 09:53 AM
it's HARD
smh
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 18-Jan-21 09:53 AM
What if I just change it to "property"
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parm 18-Jan-21 09:53 AM
nah
just get rid of it
i can get TPO on board with this if that part is removed
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 18-Jan-21 09:54 AM
👀
If I change it to "personal possessions" can I remove "unless overridden by a court of law"? (edited)
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parm 18-Jan-21 09:55 AM
gh just get rid of the whole property mention
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 18-Jan-21 09:55 AM
Fine I'll change it to personal possessions
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parm 18-Jan-21 09:56 AM
gh
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Dieselkeough 18-Jan-21 09:56 AM
Gh
I claim all property as my personal possession
troll
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 18-Jan-21 09:57 AM
Now
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Deleted User 18-Jan-21 09:57 AM
based
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 18-Jan-21 09:57 AM
Sign
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Deleted User 18-Jan-21 09:57 AM
so do i
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parm 18-Jan-21 09:57 AM
just pack the courts
gh
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 18-Jan-21 09:57 AM
True
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parm 18-Jan-21 09:57 AM
@Senator Morshu Ferrok i would like to thank @Dieselkeough for mentioning that loophole, so i have upped my demands slightly
just remove all mention of possessions and property
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Dieselkeough 18-Jan-21 09:58 AM
entj
Nobody is allowed to own anything
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parm 18-Jan-21 09:58 AM
it's a positive right troll
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Dieselkeough 18-Jan-21 09:58 AM
The state shall now own all toothbrushes
LETSFUCKINGGOOOOOOO 3
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parm 18-Jan-21 09:59 AM
alright poggers! ferrok put my siggy wiggy on there
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 18-Jan-21 09:59 AM
@BrosPros I have removed the mention of personal property, due to a possible exploit via packing the courts which would deprive people of their private property
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Dieselkeough 18-Jan-21 10:00 AM
Entj
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character-confusion 18-Jan-21 10:01 AM
lol
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Sen. James Durham 18-Jan-21 10:09 AM
Yeah no I'm voting no on this
Too many
Human ""rights""
gets in the way of policy
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 18-Jan-21 10:10 AM
Shut up
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Sen. James Durham 18-Jan-21 10:12 AM
also
got rid of private property
smh
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 18-Jan-21 10:12 AM
I wanted to keep it but there was a loophole and I need more signatures
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Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP 21-Jan-21 02:52 PM
What the fuck... are you dumb? Do you have brain damage?
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 21-Jan-21 03:26 PM
I have a fully functional brain
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character-confusion 21-Jan-21 03:30 PM
doubt
Avatar Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) I have a fully functional brain
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parm 21-Jan-21 03:40 PM
Avatar Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) I have a fully functional brain
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 21-Jan-21 04:38 PM
gorbydoubt
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Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP 21-Jan-21 09:55 PM
Sign my fucking petition
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Your Friend Tamara 21-Jan-21 11:56 PM
@Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP add my signature
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Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP 22-Jan-21 12:43 AM
Just react it but ok
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Sen. Cassandra Balistic 22-Jan-21 10:46 PM
add my sig
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Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP 22-Jan-21 11:54 PM
Wat
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 23-Jan-21 02:49 AM
Tfw karlos only gets two signatures
funwaa
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Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP 23-Jan-21 04:19 AM
Bitch I’m using “react” as I think this is an informal thing... also too lazy
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Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP 23-Jan-21 04:19 AM
U sure to sign the bill? Ima conform
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Sen. Cassandra Balistic 23-Jan-21 06:53 AM
yessss
bruh just use the reacts
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Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP 23-Jan-21 11:39 PM
I have 10 reacts / signatures. Make ⬜⬛🔳🔲 take IQ test
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character-confusion 23-Jan-21 11:41 PM
gh
seriously?
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Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP 23-Jan-21 11:50 PM
Do it
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character-confusion 23-Jan-21 11:52 PM
you need to put signutrues on it
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Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP 23-Jan-21 11:55 PM
Ok
Yea I, done @character-confusion
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 24-Jan-21 12:17 AM
Frisk... It's Frisk, Chara is in a secured facility
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Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP 24-Jan-21 01:55 AM
?
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 24-Jan-21 01:58 AM
You signed Chara, not Frisk lmfao
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Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP 24-Jan-21 01:58 AM
Wait shit sry
I only taken the usernames since I’m lazy as fuck to check each name
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Senator Morshu Ferrok 02-Feb-21 04:13 PM
Voluntarist Party announces its support of the Separation of Church and State Bill
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parm 02-Feb-21 04:16 PM
We support this bill but we'd prefer the announcement of votes before they happen in order to give Senators time to read the bill and inspect its flaws
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Deleted User 02-Feb-21 04:17 PM
I would like to know if this bill applies ex post facto
I do not want Senators being punished retroactively
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parm 02-Feb-21 04:18 PM
i mean...woildnt senators get to disassociate with their religous groups
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Sen. James Durham 03-Feb-21 08:16 AM
Hey you should join my party!
Since youre partyless
troll
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Birthday Mod 03-Feb-21 09:11 AM
Hopefully my main gets reactivated
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parm 03-Feb-21 09:28 AM
troll
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Birthday Mod 03-Feb-21 09:28 AM
gh
I asked for a human rep
Which means I’ll get Clyde again
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parm 03-Feb-21 09:31 AM
call them on the phone troll
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Birthday Mod 03-Feb-21 09:32 AM
At this point I don’t care it got disabled, I just wanna know why
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Sen. James Durham 03-Feb-21 09:50 AM
Too religious
Bigot
🤬
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Birthday Mod 03-Feb-21 09:53 AM
gh
then why did @Senator Michelle Evans get banned
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Your Friend Tamara 03-Feb-21 10:05 AM
wholesum 6
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parm 03-Feb-21 10:08 AM
spit
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Truer King KingKingKing 03-Feb-21 08:13 PM
Lmao, I got him both times I emailed them I wonder if he does all the email work and whenever he says he has “looked” over the account to make sure it was correcly perma-banned, he is just not giving a shit Also yeah, I felt the same way too I could have cared less (even with it being a 6yo/acc) it getting disabled, I would have liked an actual answer tho
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Birthday Mod 03-Feb-21 08:13 PM
Clyde is the bot
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Truer King KingKingKing 03-Feb-21 08:14 PM
Hmph
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Truer King KingKingKing 03-Feb-21 08:14 PM
I am pissed now
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Birthday Mod 03-Feb-21 08:14 PM
lmao
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Truer King KingKingKing 03-Feb-21 08:16 PM
Like, I emailed them multiple times Only to ever get a response from Clyde, who kept giving an elaborate message about having read my acocunt and shit So I assumed it was a real person (who the fuck names a bot Clyde, Imma shoot them), and also because no one ever got back to me no matter the number of times I emailed them (edited)
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parm 03-Feb-21 09:14 PM
DID YOU NOT THINK CLYDE WAS A BOT
entj
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Truer King KingKingKing 03-Feb-21 09:35 PM
Read the above messages you indolent
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parm 03-Feb-21 09:36 PM
yea ik
Clyde isn't a bot name
but discord is weird so uh
😐
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Truer King KingKingKing 03-Feb-21 09:38 PM
Clyde seemed like the name of a real person But honestly I was thinking it was the name of a real person as the only other times I emailed game companies was either for like Supercell and shit (which you could tell were bots by their names), or when I spent several years sending masterwork thesis grade-work to game devs and they would actually hold conversations with me Admittedly for the latter the real humans used fucking weird names but whatever (edited)
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parm 03-Feb-21 09:39 PM
lmao
mood
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Truer King KingKingKing 03-Feb-21 09:42 PM
Discords a butt tho which sucks Best, and legitimately only good UI for guilds on the market (way better than shit like Reddit, Teamspeak, etc), but absolutely garbage admins (not server mods, but if you wanna include Charizard you can) If the discord admins wanna ban me a 2nd time for shit talking they can, Ive got like 3 more accounts so they can suck my horse cock
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parm 03-Feb-21 09:45 PM
i mean like reddit is completely different game compared to discord
and there's just way more oeople on discord as pposed to Teamspeak
so i see whrre you're coming from
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Truer King KingKingKing 03-Feb-21 09:48 PM
I know Reddit is a different game, but I was comparing UI and Function really Still, Discord has the best possible UI I have found for ‘Guilds/Communities’
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Truer King KingKingKing 03-Feb-21 09:48 PM
Because Teamspeak has shit UI
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Sen. Esat T. Erdagi 04-Feb-21 07:27 AM
TUP also declares the support for the Separation of Church and State
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 10-Feb-21 08:14 PM
This is a non partisan bill
Everyone should be able to advocate for murder
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Judeo-Mongoloid 10-Feb-21 08:17 PM
we have created the remove kebab bill
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Dieselkeough 10-Feb-21 08:17 PM
lets see it
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cbass 10-Feb-21 08:32 PM
@Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) put my siggy
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Sen. James Durham 10-Feb-21 08:47 PM
@Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) Ill sign right now
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Birthday Mod 10-Feb-21 08:54 PM
//id sign but it would tank my popularity lmao
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Sen. James Durham 10-Feb-21 08:54 PM
PUSSSY
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Birthday Mod 10-Feb-21 08:55 PM
//yeah
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cbass 10-Feb-21 08:56 PM
pussy
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Dr. Kris Lawrence 10-Feb-21 08:57 PM
(does ASS actually care about popularity?)
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Birthday Mod 10-Feb-21 09:07 PM
//yes
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Adolf Augusto Pencenrio (NAZI/SP 10-Feb-21 09:08 PM
Well wtf
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 10-Feb-21 09:26 PM
@Sen. James Durham @cbass commenting exists
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cbass 10-Feb-21 09:26 PM
eat my ass
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Sen. James Durham 10-Feb-21 09:28 PM
On mobile nignog
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Sen.⬜⬛🔳🔲(CLEMENTS2022!) 10-Feb-21 09:29 PM
I'm always on mobile
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